What Islam and Christianity say about modesty

[mrswdk]

On a side note, the Bible dictates similar clothing rules for women as the Quran. Particular attention paid to Corinthians, which proscribes that women cover their heads.

Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire

Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, when they see your respectful and pure conduct. Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious. For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands

For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man.

Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.

[tzor]

On a side note, the Bible dictates similar clothing rules for women as the Quran. Particular attention paid to Corinthians, which proscribes that women cover their heads.

It's also important to remember that the words of the Christian "Apostles" are not at the same level as the words of the Islamic "Prophet." When later church fathers would compile documents on the principles of the faith, these clothing rules were NEVER INCLUDED. Corinthians was a "letter" written to a specific church with all the context of that letter to consider.

It's also important to note that Paul's letters concerns only during public worship. The Quran is for any time a woman is seen in public.

[mrswdk]

On a side note, the Bible dictates similar clothing rules for women as the Quran. Particular attention paid to Corinthians, which proscribes that women cover their heads.

It's also important to remember that the words of the Christian "Apostles" are not at the same level as the words of the Islamic "Prophet."

Muhammed = messenger chosen by God to spread God's message
The apostles = messengers chosen by Jesus (who was God's son and also God) to spread God's message

Any difference you want to try and make between the two is just going to be a game of semantics. Both books are God's word.

It's also important to note that Paul's letters concerns only during public worship.

I see you've decided to ignore Timothy, Peter and all the other disciples who wrote similar/identical things in the context of women's daily lives.

[tzor]

Muhammed = messenger chosen by God to spread God's message
The apostles = messengers chosen by Jesus (who was God's son and also God) to spread God's message

Muhammed is THE messenger; he came with the message.
Apostles actually comes from a word meaning one who was sent and they helped spread the message of Jesus.
So it is better to say that the Apostles are the equivalent of the "Companions of the Prophet"
Here is an Islamic web page that compares the Apostles to the Companions of the Prophet.

Just as the disciples held special rank among their community, the helpers of the Prophet Muḥammad, blessings and peace upon him, enjoy an exalted position in the Qurʾān and Ḥadīth. The Prophet stated: “Only a believer loves the Anṣār, and only a hypocrite hates them. So Allah will love him who loves them, and He will hate him who hates them” (Bukhārī).

[mrswdk]

Any difference you want to try and make between the two is just going to be a game of semantics. Both books are God's word.

Apostles actually comes from a word meaning one who was sent

Right on cue.

[jimboston]

On a side note, the Bible dictates similar clothing rules for women as the Quran. Particular attention paid to Corinthians, which proscribes that women cover their heads.

It's also important to remember that the words of the Christian "Apostles" are not at the same level as the words of the Islamic "Prophet."

Muhammed = messenger chosen by God to spread God's message
The apostles = messengers chosen by Jesus (who was God's son and also God) to spread God's message

Any difference you want to try and make between the two is just going to be a game of semantics. Both books are God's word.

It's also important to note that Paul's letters concerns only during public worship.

I see you've decided to ignore Timothy, Peter and all the other disciples who wrote similar/identical things in the context of women's daily lives.

Doesn’t it matter which book you believe?

My Muslim friend tells me that Jesus is considered a great Prophet in Islam, but that’s all.... just another prophet in a long line of prophets that existed before THE Prophet.

In Christianity Jesus is not a prophet, but the Son of God and Also Part of the God/Trinity.

So in Christianity the Apostles are Companions of God... but in Islam the Apostles are just holy men who studied under a Prophet.

Christian’s believe the Apostles were anointed with the power of the Holy Spirit and therefore were empowered by God to perform miracles in God’s name.

In Islam the Apostles were just the Prophets Bro’s.

[2dimes]

Since you are talking about books. In Christianity even though there are a few that say a certain translation is better at least they are ok with a translation. Followers of Islam say you can only get the truth in Arabic.

Good idea but we won't be able to stop the great whore of Babylon by forcing women to wear hats.

[Dukasaur]

Exec #2 (Michael Palin): Yeah, I’ve had a team working on this over the past few weeks, and what we’ve come up with can be reduced to two fundamental concepts. One: People aren’t wearing enough hats. Two: Matter is energy. In the universe there are many energy fields which we cannot normally perceive. Some energies have a spiritual source which act upon a person’s soul. However, this “soul” does not exist ab initio as orthodox Christianity teaches; it has to be brought into existence by a process of guided self-observation. However, this is rarely achieved owing to man’s unique ability to be distracted from spiritual matters by everyday trivia.

Exec #3 (Terry Jones): What was that about hats again?

[jonesthecurl]

When I was a kid, women always wore hats to church.

[mrswdk]

On a side note, the Bible dictates similar clothing rules for women as the Quran. Particular attention paid to Corinthians, which proscribes that women cover their heads.

It's also important to remember that the words of the Christian "Apostles" are not at the same level as the words of the Islamic "Prophet."

Muhammed = messenger chosen by God to spread God's message
The apostles = messengers chosen by Jesus (who was God's son and also God) to spread God's message

Any difference you want to try and make between the two is just going to be a game of semantics. Both books are God's word.

It's also important to note that Paul's letters concerns only during public worship.

I see you've decided to ignore Timothy, Peter and all the other disciples who wrote similar/identical things in the context of women's daily lives.

Doesn’t it matter which book you believe?

My Muslim friend tells me that Jesus is considered a great Prophet in Islam, but that’s all.... just another prophet in a long line of prophets that existed before THE Prophet.

In Christianity Jesus is not a prophet, but the Son of God and Also Part of the God/Trinity.

So in Christianity the Apostles are Companions of God... but in Islam the Apostles are just holy men who studied under a Prophet.

Christian’s believe the Apostles were anointed with the power of the Holy Spirit and therefore were empowered by God to perform miracles in God’s name.

In Islam the Apostles were just the Prophets Bro’s.

Although in Islam, Muhammed had direct contact with God and was relaying messages to humanity on his behalf (e.g. Muhammed supposedly ascended to heaven at one point, and while there God told him the five pillars of Islam).

[mookiemcgee]

When I was a kid, women always wore hats to church.

Are you from the South?

[jonesthecurl]

When I was a kid, women always wore hats to church.

Are you from the South?

I'm a Brit.

[mrswdk]

South Wales, amirite.

[jonesthecurl]

South Wales, amirite.

Although that's where my Dad was born, and 50% of my relatives live, I was actually born in London and raised in Basildon. My church, when I was a churchy person, was the local Anglican church

[NomadPatriot]

I know what this thread needs...
--> a Soundtrack!

[mrswdk]

Just another day in the United Emirates of America. A Texan woman denied a job and publicly shamed for wearing revealing swimwear at a friend's house party:

A company in Texas posted an image of a job applicant wearing a swimsuit as an example of how not to apply for a job.

Marketing company Kickass Masterminds posted an Instagram slide - since removed - of applicant Emily Clow, along with advice on professionalism.

"Do not share your social media with a potential employer if this is the kind of content on it," it said.

The company's post went on: "I am looking for a professional marketer - not a bikini model.

"Go on with your bad self and do whatever in private. But this is not doing you any favors in finding a professional job."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-49931273