Trump: "non-white people are not real Americans"

[spurgistan]

Underestimate Trump and he will be re-elected.

Racism's a good strategy. Especially when most of the MSM is too dignified to just call it that. Best of both worlds!

[HitRed]

AOC is broadening the definition of racism to include Democrats. Soon everyone will be a racist by birth and the word might become meaningless, which is really sad.

[NomadPatriot]

Do you want me to list all the things trump has denied that have turned out to be true? (it's probably too long a list) That's the problem when you accept lying as your #1 strategy to bad press, no one believes you when you are telling the truth.

if you had a list that can be verified by facts you would post it..

but I agree..
when YOU accept lying as your #1 source of information from people who hate trump. .then YOU will never accept the truth

[mookiemcgee]

Do you want me to list all the things trump has denied that have turned out to be true? (it's probably too long a list) That's the problem when you accept lying as your #1 strategy to bad press, no one believes you when you are telling the truth.

if you had a list that can be verified by facts you would post it..

but I agree..
when YOU accept lying as your #1 source of information from people who hate trump. .then YOU will never accept the truth

You could read the Mueller report, it was written by a Republican. Is that all lies too? It clearly shows Trump lying.

When you deny all facts and all reporting as fake news, it becomes hard to prove to you anything because you are in a full state of confirmation bias. Currently Breitbart doesn't post any 'trump lies' lists and since that is the only source you would accept I won't bother trying.

[NomadPatriot]

You could read the Mueller report, it was written by a Republican. Is that all lies too? It clearly shows Trump lying.When you deny all facts and all reporting as fake news, it becomes hard to prove to you anything because you are in a full state of confirmation bias. Currently Breitbart doesn't post any 'trump lies' lists and since that is the only source you would accept I won't bother trying.

I have never once used Breitbart as a source in any comments I have posted..

you just keep saying Trump is lying about stuff.. that there are lists .. that the Mueller report proves his lies..
yet .. you can not find anything to back-up your claims...you just keep screaming it like you think if you say it enough it has to be true..
( obviously you heard it enough & never researched anything.. so you believe it's true.. )

so go right ahead & back-up your statements.. ( the problem is you can't....)

[mookiemcgee]

You could read the Mueller report, it was written by a Republican. Is that all lies too? It clearly shows Trump lying.When you deny all facts and all reporting as fake news, it becomes hard to prove to you anything because you are in a full state of confirmation bias. Currently Breitbart doesn't post any 'trump lies' lists and since that is the only source you would accept I won't bother trying.

I have never once used Breitbart as a source in any comments I have posted..

you just keep saying Trump is lying about stuff.. that there are lists .. that the Mueller report proves his lies..
yet .. you can not find anything to back-up your claims...you just keep screaming it like you think if you say it enough it has to be true..
( obviously you heard it enough & never researched anything.. so you believe it's true.. )

so go right ahead & back-up your statements.. ( the problem is you can't....)

What more do you want to backup my claims than a 2 year long report from a special US prosecutor? Did you read it? What else am i supposed to site, if you are going to say all things from news agencies are fake?

Did Mexico pay for a wall and I missed it?

Is the Art of the Deal the best selling book of all time?

These are a couple easily verified lies.

Does this count as fake news? It's 12 pages long but go ahead and rebut each one if you'd like:
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

For Mueller report, I can't read it for you. Among the things it states Trump lied about:
Negotiations over a Trump Tower Moscow.
He ordered McGhan to fire Mueller - repeatedly told everyone he did not.
Claimed he had 'No business interests with Russia" - report found signed letter of intent to build Trump Tower Moscow
Lied about reason for firing Comey

Go ahead and bury your head in the sand now... nothing to see here!

[HitRed]

is "CNN The most trusted name in news"?

[mookiemcgee]

is "CNN The most trusted name in news"?

Continue to bury your heads in the sand, I posted a ton of lies and didn't cite CNN once
You want to pivot the convo away from Trumps lies, why not face them head on instead?

remember what I'm replying to in my last comment is this:

you just keep saying Trump is lying about stuff.. that there are lists .. that the Mueller report proves his lies..
yet .. you can not find anything to back-up your claims... if you had a list that can be verified by facts you would post it..

Well I just posted alot of stuff to back my claims. Do you have anything besides Trump and his staffs denials to back up yours Nomad?

What about McGahn, is he a left wing Trump hating liar, or did he simply refuse to break the law by lying to Mueller in spite of Trump asking him to do so?

[HitRed]

Is the Art of the Deal the best selling book of all time?

HitRed wrote:
is "CNN The most trusted name in news"?

[Bernie Sanders]

Is the Art of the Deal the best selling book of all time?

HitRed wrote:
is "CNN The most trusted name in news"?

It certainly ain't Fox News, lol

[NomadPatriot]

What more do you want to backup my claims than a 2 year long report from a special US prosecutor? Did you read it? What else am i supposed to site, if you are going to say all things from news agencies are fake?Did Mexico pay for a wall and I missed it?Is the Art of the Deal the best selling book of all time?These are a couple easily verified lies. Does this count as fake news? It's 12 pages long but go ahead and rebut each one if you'd like:https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/For Mueller report, I can't read it for you. Among the things it states Trump lied about:Negotiations over a Trump Tower Moscow. He ordered McGhan to fire Mueller - repeatedly told everyone he did not.Claimed he had 'No business interests with Russia" - report found signed letter of intent to build Trump Tower MoscowLied about reason for firing ComeyGo ahead and bury your head in the sand now... nothing to see here!

I said back-up your claims,, you reference nothing from the Mueller report..

you post a link to Politifact that does not reference any source material.
it just gives rebuttals like " not what she said " instead of actually quoting what she said & " Drowning in errors" without referencing anything they claim is a error..

facts Michael.. debate with facts..

but I can see how pointless it is to try to debate you on anything.. all you do is spout non-sense without ever producing anything factual that can be discussed... & you believe anything the Left says..
do you believe the Left when Tom Delay said " we have to stop Trump.. WHATEVER IT TAKES".
--> whatever it takes..
hmmmmm. I wonder what that would entail. not lying.. oh no.. they wouldn't... lie..

I am glad though that you openly admit you believe anything a anonymous source says .. and take it as true gospel.. --> some anonymous person said Bigfoot is real.. you are forced to believe it..

lastly.. Trump's actual quote about The Art of the Deal is " The Art of the Deal, is "the No. 1 selling business book of all time."
#1 SELLING BUSINESS BOOK...
"BUSINESS BOOK"....

If you cannot even get your quotes correct... it stayed on the New York Times Best Selling List for 48 weeks straight.. 13 weeks at #1

[jimboston]

Underestimate Trump and he will be re-elected.

+1

[jimboston]

Underestimate Trump and he will be re-elected.

Racism's a good strategy. Especially when most of the MSM is too dignified to just call it that. Best of both worlds!

The MSM and his own Party.

[mookiemcgee]

I said back-up your claims,, you reference nothing from the Mueller report..

I am referencing the Mueller Report itself, here's a link dumbass - https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... eport.html
It might be a stretch to ask you to actually read it.

you post a link to Politifact that does not reference any source material.
it just gives rebuttals like " not what she said " instead of actually quoting what she said & " Drowning in errors" without referencing anything they claim is a error..

Politifact cites all source material, and has full length description of how they get to their conclusions. Try clicking any single one of the lies (did I really have to point that out?)

For example on the first page:

show

facts Michael.. debate with facts..

I'm trying, you doing you best to avoid them, by calling me names and telling me what I believe.

but I can see how pointless it is to try to debate you on anything.. all you do is spout non-sense without ever producing anything factual that can be discussed... & you believe anything the Left says..
do you believe the Left when Tom Delay said " we have to stop Trump.. WHATEVER IT TAKES".
--> whatever it takes..
hmmmmm. I wonder what that would entail. not lying.. oh no.. they wouldn't... lie..

See above. Why are you bringing up others, when we are talking about trumps lies? Trying again to obfuscation?

I am glad though that you openly admit you believe anything a anonymous source says .. and take it as true gospel.. --> some anonymous person said Bigfoot is real.. you are forced to believe it..

Are you talking about Politifact again? I already explained you just don't understand how websites work.

lastly.. Trump's actual quote about The Art of the Deal is " The Art of the Deal, is "the No. 1 selling business book of all time."
#1 SELLING BUSINESS BOOK...
"BUSINESS BOOK"....

If you cannot even get your quotes correct... it stayed on the New York Times Best Selling List for 48 weeks straight.. 13 weeks at #1

[quote="Donald Trump on Wednesday, July 1st, 2015 in remarks on CNN." ]the No. 1 selling business book of all time.[/quote]

Ok your turn... Since you spent alot of energy on that, you cite some evidence that 'Art of the Deal' is the No.1 selling business book of all time.

It's not. Dale Carnegie’s How to Win Friends and Influence People is far and away the #1 business book of all time. Estimated sales in 2015 at the time of Trump's quote was 15 million copies.,. Trump book... all time... Highest estimate I could find...1 million copies. See now Trump is turning you into a liar because you believe without even looking it up bro.

Oh what's that you want me to cite evidence? How about Neilson data from 2015 when Trump made that claim... Doesn't get any less biased than how many barcodes got scanned for sale right?

Nielsen data (since 2001)
How to Win Friends & Influence People - 2.27 million since 2001
The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People - 2.18 million since 2001
Rich Dad Poor Dad - 6.99 million since 2001
Steve Jobs - 1.74 million since 2001
The Art of the Deal - 177,000 since 2001

[KoolBak]

Hasn't Don Quixote sold over 500 million copies?

At least it's worth reading

[Bernie Sanders]

Look at the bigot(s).

No laughing matter.

[NomadPatriot]

Ok your turn... Since you spent alot of energy on that, you cite some evidence that 'Art of the Deal' is the No.1 selling business book of all time. It's not. Dale Carnegie’s How to Win Friends and Influence People is far and away the #1 business book of all time. Estimated sales in 2015 at the time of Trump's quote was 15 million copies.,. Trump book... all time... Highest estimate I could find...1 million copies. See now Trump is turning you into a liar because you believe without even looking it up bro. Oh what's that you want me to cite evidence? How about Neilson data from 2015 when Trump made that claim... Doesn't get any less biased than how many barcodes got scanned for sale right?Nielsen data (since 2001)How to Win Friends & Influence People - 2.27 million since 2001The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People - 2.18 million since 2001Rich Dad Poor Dad - 6.99 million since 2001Steve Jobs - 1.74 million since 2001The Art of the Deal - 177,000 since 2001

ok. let's get the full direct quote Trump said on CNN..
--> " I go out, I make a tremendous fortune. I write a book called The Art of the Deal, the No. 1 selling business book of all time, at least I think, but I’m pretty sure it is."
at least I think, but I’m pretty sure it is
so according to you.. someone is lying when they say 'At least I think, i'm pretty sure it is'..

get your facts straight before accusing people of lying. it makes you seem . --> Desperate

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from Politifact:

"Donald Trump says his 1987 memoir is the best-selling business book of all time. (via Amazon)"

we looked at data from Nielsen Bookscan. The data isn't perfect. For one, it counts sales only since 2001. And for another, it only tallies the number of print copies sold by major booksellers (about 85 percent of the market).


It’s difficult to weigh Trump’s opus against other "business books" for two reasons.

One, best-seller lists are almost always periodical. Amazon tallies sales by the hour, while the New York Times’ lists are by week or by month. Greg Cowles, who writes for the New York Times "Inside the List" column, says the paper doesn’t track all-time sales.

Second, the genre called "business books" is nebulous and can range from memoirs and essays to financial tips and management strategies. Trump’s book can certainly be shelved in the business section, as it’s both a memoir by a business executive and offers business advice. But experts say it can hardly count as influential in the subcategories or important in the broader genre.

The authors and publishers of these popular books offer self-reported estimates

[jimboston]

Ok your turn... Since you spent alot of energy on that, you cite some evidence that 'Art of the Deal' is the No.1 selling business book of all time. It's not. Dale Carnegie’s How to Win Friends and Influence People is far and away the #1 business book of all time. Estimated sales in 2015 at the time of Trump's quote was 15 million copies.,. Trump book... all time... Highest estimate I could find...1 million copies. See now Trump is turning you into a liar because you believe without even looking it up bro. Oh what's that you want me to cite evidence? How about Neilson data from 2015 when Trump made that claim... Doesn't get any less biased than how many barcodes got scanned for sale right?Nielsen data (since 2001)How to Win Friends & Influence People - 2.27 million since 2001The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People - 2.18 million since 2001Rich Dad Poor Dad - 6.99 million since 2001Steve Jobs - 1.74 million since 2001The Art of the Deal - 177,000 since 2001

ok. let's get the full direct quote Trump said on CNN..
--> " I go out, I make a tremendous fortune. I write a book called The Art of the Deal, the No. 1 selling business book of all time, at least I think, but I’m pretty sure it is."
at least I think, but I’m pretty sure it is
so according to you.. someone is lying when they say 'At least I think, i'm pretty sure it is'..

get your facts straight before accusing people of lying. it makes you seem . --> Desperate

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from Politifact:

"Donald Trump says his 1987 memoir is the best-selling business book of all time. (via Amazon)"

we looked at data from Nielsen Bookscan. The data isn't perfect. For one, it counts sales only since 2001. And for another, it only tallies the number of print copies sold by major booksellers (about 85 percent of the market).


It’s difficult to weigh Trump’s opus against other "business books" for two reasons.

One, best-seller lists are almost always periodical. Amazon tallies sales by the hour, while the New York Times’ lists are by week or by month. Greg Cowles, who writes for the New York Times "Inside the List" column, says the paper doesn’t track all-time sales.

Second, the genre called "business books" is nebulous and can range from memoirs and essays to financial tips and management strategies. Trump’s book can certainly be shelved in the business section, as it’s both a memoir by a business executive and offers business advice. But experts say it can hardly count as influential in the subcategories or important in the broader genre.

The authors and publishers of these popular books offer self-reported estimates

Are you really planting your flag on his book being “the number one business book of all time”?

I mean you can make an argument he isn’t “lying” because...
1) he put the “I think” qualifier in there
2) we can debate endlessly about what is or is not a “business book”

... but come on. Is this really flag planting material?

Why not just say.... “It was a dumb speech and he was exaggerating like all politicians do, that doesn’t make him a ‘liar’.”
This is a better and more accurate defense.
No one really believes he wrote the “best selling business book of all time”.
Trump is the king of hyperbole and exaggeration.
It’s a harmless throwaway white lie.
Ignore it.

If his ‘haters’ are going to attack every dumb exaggeration, and his supports defend every exaggeration to the bitter end, then we never actually talk about his actions, policies, agenda, etc. This may be his true goal actually. It’s the GREATEST PLAN/SMOKESCREEN EVER!

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One a separate note NP... if Trump is technically correct because the “I think” and the nebulous definition of what’s a “business book”.... then I’m going have to claim that I was right in the other thread where I said “I bet” that ‘somewhere in his family history’ they’ve been slaveholders. I mean like I said in the other thread...statistically we are all likely descendants of both slaves and slave owners... so TECHNICALLY I’m right. At least I’m as technically right about that as Trump is about this book thing.

[2dimes]

[NomadPatriot]

Are you really planting your flag on his book being “the number one business book of all time”?

how is posting direct quotes and quoting news articles 'planting a flag'..?
I am simply providing the actual facts.. something Mookie isn't able to do because he consistently misquoted Trump claiming he said somethin he didn't...
I clarified the situation.. with the truth... --> the actual quote..

I haven't state my position on the book being a #1 best selling business book of all time or not.. I do not know.. ...

[mookiemcgee]

One post ago...

you post a link to Politifact that does not reference any source material.
it just gives rebuttals like " not what she said " instead of actually quoting what she said & " Drowning in errors" without referencing anything they claim is a error.. I am glad though that you openly admit you believe anything a anonymous source says .. and take it as true gospel.. --> some anonymous person said Bigfoot is real.. you are forced to believe it..

Suddenly now your quoting them Hahahaha!

from Politifact:

You're welcome for the lesson on how websites work.

[NomadPatriot]

One post ago...

you post a link to Politifact that does not reference any source material.
it just gives rebuttals like " not what she said " instead of actually quoting what she said & " Drowning in errors" without referencing anything they claim is a error.. I am glad though that you openly admit you believe anything a anonymous source says .. and take it as true gospel.. --> some anonymous person said Bigfoot is real.. you are forced to believe it..

Suddenly now your quoting them Hahahaha!

from Politifact:

You're welcome for the lesson on how websites work.

if you knew how to follow the conversation you would understand the 'Anonymous Source" I have been referring to is from the NYT article quoting trump saying something about Haitians.. not Politifact

the link you posted didn't have any source material you were able to reference..
your way of debating is to say.. 'here's the link I found 5 seconds ago.. it says what I am talking about is in there somewhere. go find it.. '

you did it with Poltifact.. you did it with the Mueller Report.. but you couldn't reference anything.

you even resorted to mis-quoting Trump in order to try to skew the conversation your way..
which I owned you on..

as far as the trump book. I use politifact because it's what you referenced.. I used your link againist you genius.. because you do not know how to debate properly..

keep mis-quoting people so you can push your narrative..
( but I see how you did not have any response... it's called getting cornered.. but I am sure you are used to that by now....)

[mookiemcgee]

One post ago...

you post a link to Politifact that does not reference any source material.
it just gives rebuttals like " not what she said " instead of actually quoting what she said & " Drowning in errors" without referencing anything they claim is a error.. I am glad though that you openly admit you believe anything a anonymous source says .. and take it as true gospel.. --> some anonymous person said Bigfoot is real.. you are forced to believe it..

Suddenly now your quoting them Hahahaha!

from Politifact:

You're welcome for the lesson on how websites work.

as far as the trump book. I use politifact because it's what you referenced.. I used your link againist you genius.. because you do not know how to debate properly..

Here let me complete you pathetic attempt to quote an article that says Trump's book wasn't even close to being #1 on anyone's list ever-
It’s difficult to weigh Trump’s opus against other "business books" for two reasons.

One, best-seller lists are almost always periodical. Amazon tallies sales by the hour, while the New York Times’ lists are by week or by month. Greg Cowles, who writes for the New York Times "Inside the List" column, says the paper doesn’t track all-time sales.

Second, the genre called "business books" is nebulous and can range from memoirs and essays to financial tips and management strategies. Trump’s book can certainly be shelved in the business section, as it’s both a memoir by a business executive and offers business advice. But experts say it can hardly count as influential in the subcategories or important in the broader genre.

"Trump is full of B.S.," said Jeffrey Pfeffer, a professor of business management at Stanford University’s Graduate School of Business. "The best selling/most important business books would have to be In Search of Excellence by (Thomas) Peters and (Robert) Waterman that started the genre, Built to Last by Jim Collins, The One Minute Manager by Ken Blanchard and The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey."

The Art of the Deal isn’t used in business schools like Michael Porter’s Competitive Strategy, nor is it a text business executives find useful like Machiavelli's The Prince, said Lawrence White, a business and economics professor at New York University's Stern School.

As for prominent biographies of business executives, Daniel Raff, who teaches at Trump’s alma mater of Wharton, listed books about Steve Jobs and by Lee Iacocca.

We looked at some of these titles and, for good measure, threw in Dale Carnegie’s How to Win Friends & Influence People, which promises pathways to attain professional goals (Warren Buffett is a fan), and Robert Kiyosaki’s personal finance guide, Rich Dad Poor Dad.

The authors and publishers of these popular books offer self-reported estimates; we’ve also included the independently compiled Nielsen data. Here’s how Trump’s book stacks up:

Nielsen data (since 2001)

How to Win Friends & Influence People - 2.27 million since 2001
The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People - 2.18 million since 2001
Rich Dad Poor Dad - 6.99 million since 2001
Steve Jobs - 1.74 million since 2001
The Art of the Deal - 177,000 since 2001

Whether you’re looking at estimated sales or actual figures from Nielsen BookScan, The Art of the Deal has sold fewer copies than at least four other books.

Our ruling

Trump said his 1987 memoir The Art of the Deal is "the No. 1 selling business book of all time."

The highest estimate pins the number of sales at 1 million, which we weren’t able to verify. According to one source of sales data, The Art of the Deal sold 184,000 physical copies since 2001. There are no lists of all-time sales, but we weighed The Art of the Deal against other popular books in its genre. While the book was very successful, it comes nowhere near claiming the title of top seller. Dale Carnegie’s How to Win Friends and Influence People and Stephen Covey’s The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People easily outpace it.

We rate the claim False.

[NomadPatriot]

Here let me complete you pathetic attempt to quote an article that says Trump's book wasn't even close to being #1 on anyone's list ever-

I own you yet once again. but here's 2 lists I found in under 1 minute..



Trump: The Art of the Deal is a 1987 book authored by Tony Schwartz and credited to Donald Trump. Part memoir and part business-advice book, it was the first book credited to Trump, and helped to make him a "household name". It reached number 1 on The New York Times Best Seller list, stayed there for 13 weeks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump:_The_Art_of_the_Deal

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The book had leaped to #304 by August 2016 -- shortly after the Republican National Convention. Now it's #97 overall and #1 on Amazon's Entrepreneurship list

https://money.cnn.com/2016/12/15/investing/trump-art-of-the-deal-amazon/index.html

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you lose

[mookiemcgee]

Here let me complete you pathetic attempt to quote an article that says Trump's book wasn't even close to being #1 on anyone's list ever-

I own you yet once again. but here's 2 lists I found in under 1 minute..



Trump: The Art of the Deal is a 1987 book authored by Tony Schwartz and credited to Donald Trump. Part memoir and part business-advice book, it was the first book credited to Trump, and helped to make him a "household name". It reached number 1 on The New York Times Best Seller list, stayed there for 13 weeks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump:_The_Art_of_the_Deal

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The book had leaped to #304 by August 2016 -- shortly after the Republican National Convention. Now it's #97 overall and #1 on Amazon's Entrepreneurship list

https://money.cnn.com/2016/12/15/investing/trump-art-of-the-deal-amazon/index.html

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you lose

I go out, I make a tremendous fortune. I write a book called The Art of the Deal, the No. 1 selling business book of all time, at least I think, but I’m pretty sure it is."

Again, even in your own links... not the No.1 bestselling business book of all time. Try again? Or ready to admit when your wrong?