Orwellian Britain showing out

[mrswdk]

The court has trials outside?. I thought the judge was inside the courthouse during a trial. And before the perpetrators getting inside the building for the trial there is no court being held. What were the conditions that put him back in jail? Not supposed to ask people about their pedophilia? Or asking Muslims questions?


Symmetry wrote
Breaking the conditions of his suspended sentence put him back in jail. He's in jail because of his original sentence.

The judge is not the person who decides whether someone is guilty or not.

[Symmetry]

You done?

[mrswdk]

I'm just waiting for a sincere response, which will presumably come from someone like warmonger.

[The ram]

The court has trials outside?. I thought the judge was inside the courthouse during a trial. And before the perpetrators getting inside the building for the trial there is no court being held. What were the conditions that put him back in jail? Not supposed to ask people about their pedophilia? Or asking Muslims questions?


Symmetry wrote
Breaking the conditions of his suspended sentence put him back in jail. He's in jail because of his original sentence.

The judge is not the person who decides whether someone is guilty or not. The jury decides that, and they are supposed to reach their verdict based only on the facts presented to them in court. Tommy Robinson standing outside the court throwing shade on the defendants, and broadcasting all of that on social media, might prejudice the jury's views on the case if they see him doing that.

In the UK, in order to ensure the media and others don't prejudice the jury during a trial there are all sorts of restrictions on what people are allowed to broadcast about in relation to an ongoing court case. Generally once the trial has finished and a decision has been reached, those restrictions get lifted.

The names and charges were available in an article from the BBC, surprisingly. Courts always list all defendants on trial in the foyer of the court and on their website also.

The excuses simply don't add up seeing as the trial was over and all victims had given their evidence. It was just awaiting a verdict from the jury who are always cut off from the outside world until the verdict is reached.

Symmetry is too caught up in his own feelings to see reality. I pity the fool

[Symmetry]

The court has trials outside?. I thought the judge was inside the courthouse during a trial. And before the perpetrators getting inside the building for the trial there is no court being held. What were the conditions that put him back in jail? Not supposed to ask people about their pedophilia? Or asking Muslims questions?


Symmetry wrote
Breaking the conditions of his suspended sentence put him back in jail. He's in jail because of his original sentence.

The judge is not the person who decides whether someone is guilty or not. The jury decides that, and they are supposed to reach their verdict based only on the facts presented to them in court. Tommy Robinson standing outside the court throwing shade on the defendants, and broadcasting all of that on social media, might prejudice the jury's views on the case if they see him doing that.

In the UK, in order to ensure the media and others don't prejudice the jury during a trial there are all sorts of restrictions on what people are allowed to broadcast about in relation to an ongoing court case. Generally once the trial has finished and a decision has been reached, those restrictions get lifted.

The names and charges were available in an article from the BBC, surprisingly. Courts always list all defendants on trial in the foyer of the court and on their website also.

The excuses simply don't add up seeing as the trial was over and all victims had given their evidence. It was just awaiting a verdict from the jury who are always cut off from the outside world until the verdict is reached.

Symmetry is too caught up in his own feelings to see reality. I pity the fool

A trial isn't over until the judge says it's over.

It's certainly not over before a jury even makes a decision.

[Maxleod]

Cat fight

CAT FIGHT LIVES MATTER

[mrswdk]

The court has trials outside?. I thought the judge was inside the courthouse during a trial. And before the perpetrators getting inside the building for the trial there is no court being held. What were the conditions that put him back in jail? Not supposed to ask people about their pedophilia? Or asking Muslims questions?


Symmetry wrote
Breaking the conditions of his suspended sentence put him back in jail. He's in jail because of his original sentence.

The judge is not the person who decides whether someone is guilty or not. The jury decides that, and they are supposed to reach their verdict based only on the facts presented to them in court. Tommy Robinson standing outside the court throwing shade on the defendants, and broadcasting all of that on social media, might prejudice the jury's views on the case if they see him doing that.

In the UK, in order to ensure the media and others don't prejudice the jury during a trial there are all sorts of restrictions on what people are allowed to broadcast about in relation to an ongoing court case. Generally once the trial has finished and a decision has been reached, those restrictions get lifted.

The names and charges were available in an article from the BBC, surprisingly. Courts always list all defendants on trial in the foyer of the court and on their website also.

They do, but listing the people involved in the trial and what they're charged with is not the same as putting out commentary on what kind of people the defendants are, whether or not you think they're guilty, and so on. i think the general rule of thumb would be that you can report a fact that the jury has been told in court (e.g. 'witness Y said this') but you can't report your own opinions or perspectives (e.g. 'witness X doesn't seem credible', 'defendant is obviously guilty').

The excuses simply don't add up seeing as the trial was over and all victims had given their evidence. It was just awaiting a verdict from the jury who are always cut off from the outside world until the verdict is reached.

According to the news reports I saw about Tommy Robinson, the trial was still underway when he was arrested.

It might also be because some of those grooming ring cases have involved quite a lot of defendants, and have therefore had to be split up into several trials. If there are further trials due to be held in future, for other defendants involved in this same case, then even if a verdict has been returned on the first trial, reporting restrictions will stay in place until after the final trial has concluded.

[The ram]

All evidence was already given. If the jurors didn't already know the names of the defendants and their charges then the British justice system is a farce.

He was jailed because they want him out of the way so the average moron won't question the multi cultural disaster that is ruining Britain.

[The ram]

The court has trials outside?. I thought the judge was inside the courthouse during a trial. And before the perpetrators getting inside the building for the trial there is no court being held. What were the conditions that put him back in jail? Not supposed to ask people about their pedophilia? Or asking Muslims questions?


Symmetry wrote
Breaking the conditions of his suspended sentence put him back in jail. He's in jail because of his original sentence.

The judge is not the person who decides whether someone is guilty or not. The jury decides that, and they are supposed to reach their verdict based only on the facts presented to them in court. Tommy Robinson standing outside the court throwing shade on the defendants, and broadcasting all of that on social media, might prejudice the jury's views on the case if they see him doing that.

In the UK, in order to ensure the media and others don't prejudice the jury during a trial there are all sorts of restrictions on what people are allowed to broadcast about in relation to an ongoing court case. Generally once the trial has finished and a decision has been reached, those restrictions get lifted.

The names and charges were available in an article from the BBC, surprisingly. Courts always list all defendants on trial in the foyer of the court and on their website also.

The excuses simply don't add up seeing as the trial was over and all victims had given their evidence. It was just awaiting a verdict from the jury who are always cut off from the outside world until the verdict is reached.

Symmetry is too caught up in his own feelings to see reality. I pity the fool

A trial isn't over until the judge says it's over.

It's certainly not over before a jury even makes a decision.

I doubt you know a single Muslim. I play poker with a guy that owns my favourite kebab shop and some of his friends. These people are exactly the same as me in many ways. Except they are more extreme about what they would like to do to homosexuals. Try befriending some Muslims and don't tell them you're gay, might just open you eyes

[Bernie Sanders]

I know quite a few Christians (really I do) who would rather drag queers chained to the back of their pick up truck down country roads, than to give them the time of day.

Muslim, Christians, Jews, Hindu.....intolerance in all faiths.

[The ram]

I know quite a few Christians (really I do) who would rather drag queers chained to the back of their pick up truck down country roads, than to give them the time of day.

Muslim, Christians, Jews, Hindu.....intolerance in all faiths.

Bern you can't be using language like that when referring to people who are attracted to the same sex. Btw I know some Sikhs that can't abide homosexuality either.

[mrswdk]

All evidence was already given. If the jurors didn't already know the names of the defendants and their charges then the British justice system is a farce.

He was jailed because they want him out of the way so the average moron won't question the multi cultural disaster that is ruining Britain.

But the jury had not made their decision, so there was still scope to influence their thinking. Also, as I said earlier, it's possible there are further trials still due to be had relating to this same case, in which case Tommy's broadcast could prejudice the juries for those future trials.

He wasn't just reciting their names and charges, he was insinuating things about a) their guilt and b) their characters.

I play poker with a guy that owns my favourite kebab shop and some of his friends. These people are exactly the same as me in many ways. Except they are more extreme about what they would like to do to homosexuals. Try befriending some Muslims and don't tell them you're gay, might just open you eyes

Your kebab shop friend and his pals represent all Muslims?

Not particularly surprised you've gravitated towards a bunch of guys who fantasize about what they would like to do to homosexuals, if I'm honest.

[Bernie Sanders]

I know quite a few Christians (really I do) who would rather drag queers chained to the back of their pick up truck down country roads, than to give them the time of day.

Muslim, Christians, Jews, Hindu.....intolerance in all faiths.

Bern you can't be using language like that when referring to people who are attracted to the same sex. Btw I know some Sikhs that can't abide homosexuality either.

It's obvious you know nothing about Queer Power....

[The ram]

I know quite a few Christians (really I do) who would rather drag queers chained to the back of their pick up truck down country roads, than to give them the time of day.

Muslim, Christians, Jews, Hindu.....intolerance in all faiths.

Bern you can't be using language like that when referring to people who are attracted to the same sex. Btw I know some Sikhs that can't abide homosexuality either.

It's obvious you know nothing about Queer Power....

Never heard of it Bern and got no interest in it. Is it a gay sex position?

[Bernie Sanders]

I know quite a few Christians (really I do) who would rather drag queers chained to the back of their pick up truck down country roads, than to give them the time of day.

Muslim, Christians, Jews, Hindu.....intolerance in all faiths.

Bern you can't be using language like that when referring to people who are attracted to the same sex. Btw I know some Sikhs that can't abide homosexuality either.

It's obvious you know nothing about Queer Power....

Never heard of it Bern and got no interest in it. Is it a gay sex position?

In Chicago we have homosexuals who pride themselves by saying Queer Power.

You have shown your intolerance for anybody outside your political views, sexual orientation, religion and race.

Funny that we had several Republicans in Congress who voted against any civil rights of gay people only to have to resign, cause they themselves were outed for being QUEER.

Are you going to be outed yourself Ram?

[The ram]

I know quite a few Christians (really I do) who would rather drag queers chained to the back of their pick up truck down country roads, than to give them the time of day.

Muslim, Christians, Jews, Hindu.....intolerance in all faiths.

Bern you can't be using language like that when referring to people who are attracted to the same sex. Btw I know some Sikhs that can't abide homosexuality either.

It's obvious you know nothing about Queer Power....

Never heard of it Bern and got no interest in it. Is it a gay sex position?

In Chicago we have homosexuals who pride themselves by saying Queer Power.

You have shown your intolerance for anybody outside your political views, sexual orientation, religion and race.

Funny that we had several Republicans in Congress who voted against any civil rights of gay people only to have to resign, cause they themselves were outed for being QUEER.

Are you going to be outed yourself Ram?

You think what you want Bern. To me that just shows that politicians say whatever they think will get them votes without any true conviction. Much like the real Bernie who is in bed with the BLM but couldn't wait to get as far away from blacks and into a nice white area, as soon as he could. I don't hate homosexuals I just don't want to see it. Besides, the more homo's there are means more women for me.

My intolerance of other religions and races? I have Sikh friends, Muslim and Christian. None of my Christian friends practice though. I'll admit I much prefer white people to black people. The only black people I've ever met that i can truly say I liked was in the boxing ring. It's a great way to get rid of any attitude. Oh and a guy that plays poker with us, he's a good guy.

[mrswdk]

I'll admit I much prefer white people to black people. The only black people I've ever met that i can truly say I liked was in the boxing ring. It's a great way to get rid of any attitude.

Oh boy

[Bernie Sanders]

I know quite a few Christians (really I do) who would rather drag queers chained to the back of their pick up truck down country roads, than to give them the time of day.

Muslim, Christians, Jews, Hindu.....intolerance in all faiths.

Bern you can't be using language like that when referring to people who are attracted to the same sex. Btw I know some Sikhs that can't abide homosexuality either.

It's obvious you know nothing about Queer Power....

Never heard of it Bern and got no interest in it. Is it a gay sex position?

In Chicago we have homosexuals who pride themselves by saying Queer Power.

You have shown your intolerance for anybody outside your political views, sexual orientation, religion and race.

Funny that we had several Republicans in Congress who voted against any civil rights of gay people only to have to resign, cause they themselves were outed for being QUEER.

Are you going to be outed yourself Ram?

You think what you want Bern. To me that just shows that politicians say whatever they think will get them votes without any true conviction. Much like the real Bernie who is in bed with the BLM but couldn't wait to get as far away from blacks and into a nice white area, as soon as he could. I don't hate homosexuals I just don't want to see it. Besides, the more homo's there are means more women for me.

My intolerance of other religions and races? I have Sikh friends, Muslim and Christian. None of my Christian friends practice though. I'll admit I much prefer white people to black people. The only black people I've ever met that i can truly say I liked was in the boxing ring. It's a great way to get rid of any attitude. Oh and a guy that plays poker with us, he's a good guy.

You know nothing of Bernie Sanders



Funny how racists think that if they may casually meet someone outside their comfort level, that they are BFFs.

[mrswdk]

What that photo doesn't show you is that five seconds later Bernie whipped a rock out of his pocket and tried to dash it against the back of MLK's head.

[Bernie Sanders]

What that photo doesn't show you is that five seconds later Bernie whipped a rock out of his pocket and tried to dash it against the back of MLK's head.

dash? Lay off the opium. You know the Chinese need to stay away from that sh!t.

[Symmetry]

The court has trials outside?. I thought the judge was inside the courthouse during a trial. And before the perpetrators getting inside the building for the trial there is no court being held. What were the conditions that put him back in jail? Not supposed to ask people about their pedophilia? Or asking Muslims questions?


Symmetry wrote
Breaking the conditions of his suspended sentence put him back in jail. He's in jail because of his original sentence.

The judge is not the person who decides whether someone is guilty or not. The jury decides that, and they are supposed to reach their verdict based only on the facts presented to them in court. Tommy Robinson standing outside the court throwing shade on the defendants, and broadcasting all of that on social media, might prejudice the jury's views on the case if they see him doing that.

In the UK, in order to ensure the media and others don't prejudice the jury during a trial there are all sorts of restrictions on what people are allowed to broadcast about in relation to an ongoing court case. Generally once the trial has finished and a decision has been reached, those restrictions get lifted.

The names and charges were available in an article from the BBC, surprisingly. Courts always list all defendants on trial in the foyer of the court and on their website also.

The excuses simply don't add up seeing as the trial was over and all victims had given their evidence. It was just awaiting a verdict from the jury who are always cut off from the outside world until the verdict is reached.

Symmetry is too caught up in his own feelings to see reality. I pity the fool

A trial isn't over until the judge says it's over.

It's certainly not over before a jury even makes a decision.

I doubt you know a single Muslim. I play poker with a guy that owns my favourite kebab shop and some of his friends. These people are exactly the same as me in many ways. Except they are more extreme about what they would like to do to homosexuals. Try befriending some Muslims and don't tell them you're gay, might just open you eyes

I know plenty of Muslims and count many as friends, mate. I've even dated a few. Perhaps the one guy you know from poker and his mates (interesting that you don't call them your friends, but rather "his friends") aren't the be all and end all of the Muslim community.

Something to ponder there for you. Don't hurt yourself though.

[mrswdk]

The ram plays poker with a group of Muslim kebab shop owners.

Symmetry has numerous Muslim friends and exes.

Looks like we all have lots of black friends!

[Symmetry]

Why do you think that they're black?

[TA1LGUNN3R]

You have shown your intolerance for anybody outside your political views, sexual orientation, religion and race.

Oh god no, heaven forfend people dislike other people! The horror!

[The ram]

The court has trials outside?. I thought the judge was inside the courthouse during a trial. And before the perpetrators getting inside the building for the trial there is no court being held. What were the conditions that put him back in jail? Not supposed to ask people about their pedophilia? Or asking Muslims questions?


Symmetry wrote
Breaking the conditions of his suspended sentence put him back in jail. He's in jail because of his original sentence.

The judge is not the person who decides whether someone is guilty or not. The jury decides that, and they are supposed to reach their verdict based only on the facts presented to them in court. Tommy Robinson standing outside the court throwing shade on the defendants, and broadcasting all of that on social media, might prejudice the jury's views on the case if they see him doing that.

In the UK, in order to ensure the media and others don't prejudice the jury during a trial there are all sorts of restrictions on what people are allowed to broadcast about in relation to an ongoing court case. Generally once the trial has finished and a decision has been reached, those restrictions get lifted.

The names and charges were available in an article from the BBC, surprisingly. Courts always list all defendants on trial in the foyer of the court and on their website also.

The excuses simply don't add up seeing as the trial was over and all victims had given their evidence. It was just awaiting a verdict from the jury who are always cut off from the outside world until the verdict is reached.

Symmetry is too caught up in his own feelings to see reality. I pity the fool

A trial isn't over until the judge says it's over.

It's certainly not over before a jury even makes a decision.

I doubt you know a single Muslim. I play poker with a guy that owns my favourite kebab shop and some of his friends. These people are exactly the same as me in many ways. Except they are more extreme about what they would like to do to homosexuals. Try befriending some Muslims and don't tell them you're gay, might just open you eyes

I know plenty of Muslims and count many as friends, mate. I've even dated a few. Perhaps the one guy you know from poker and his mates (interesting that you don't call them your friends, but rather "his friends") aren't the be all and end all of the Muslim community.

Something to ponder there for you. Don't hurt yourself though.

That's because they aren't my friends, I'm not going to lie. I'm not here to impress anyone. The thought of a man dating another man I find repulsive also. How's that for pondering on it?