Are we too obsessed with WWII?

[jusplay4fun]

Bernie, you're full of SHIT. PERIOD.

That is the END of that "debate."

JP

Typical: mrswdk ignores my comments because he/she has NO answer because (s)he cannot deny my analysis or my comments

Bernie makes a cursory and vapid response which proves again his childish and limited mental ability.

Debate over; I win another one.

Move on. It is not obsession, but that the results of WWII still impacts modern day events, attitudes, and policy.

Look at this simply (mostly for Bernie): when nearly the entire war is at war (OK, South Am and Antarctica are barely impacted) then yes, that has long term impact. Even Nazis fleeing to South Am countries impact that continent....., Hmmm, maybe that is why it is call WORLD War 2.....ya think.....??

NAW, can't be, can it......?

JP

Your obsession of me.....is......well....kind of homoeroticism. I can't blame you my lil' Viking wannabe. Many men who hide in closets will come out when they see me at the bar and insist on buying me a fruity and tasty drink. I always say no, since my primary vitamin supplement is beer.

So, in my travels around this country, if you see me at your local gin mill, offer me a beer and I'll spend some quality time with you and laugh at your childish rants here at CC.

....and don't be staring at my large hands ok?

[Bernie Sanders]

Sorry I hurt your feelings.


pussy

[karel]

dont worry soon it will never have happened if liberals get there way

[jusplay4fun]

Now THAT is the Bernie I have learned to love: full of insults and name calling others he does not like. WoW, Bernie, you worked REAL hard to come up with THAT insult. Keep trying. One day you will have an adult thought, but THAT is a long way away. And maybe you will grow a few inches, too. You have a real long wait on THAT, YOU IMP.

JP

Sorry I hurt your feelings.


pussy

[Bernie Sanders]

Now THAT is the Bernie I have learned to love: full of insults and name calling others he does not like. WoW, Bernie, you worked REAL hard to come up with THAT insult. Keep trying. One day you will have an adult thought, but THAT is a long way away. And maybe you will grow a few inches, too. You have a real long wait on THAT, YOU IMP.

JP

Sorry I hurt your feelings.


pussy

All I need is a rubber band and paper clip to make you cry and file a police report for assault and battery.

I bet your hands are soft and elegant, except for your tiny finger tips which are slightly callous as you type furiously in response to any slight you perceive.

[armati]

Vladimir Putin spoke with students about science in an open lesson on September 1, the start of the school year in Russia. He told them that “the future belongs to artificial intelligence,” and whoever masters it first will rule the world.

“Artificial intelligence is the future, not only for Russia, but for all humankind. It comes with colossal opportunities, but also threats that are difficult to predict. Whoever becomes the leader in this sphere will become the ruler of the world,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said.

[2dimes]

Because we are training the general population to be robots.

[Symmetry]

Vladimir Putin spoke with students about science in an open lesson on September 1, the start of the school year in Russia. He told them that “the future belongs to artificial intelligence,” and whoever masters it first will rule the world.

“Artificial intelligence is the future, not only for Russia, but for all humankind. It comes with colossal opportunities, but also threats that are difficult to predict. Whoever becomes the leader in this sphere will become the ruler of the world,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said.

Ah the real reason he wanted Trump to become President- an America run by natural stupidity.

[Thorthoth]

Vladimir Putin spoke with students about science in an open lesson on September 1, the start of the school year in Russia. He told them that “the future belongs to artificial intelligence,” and whoever masters it first will rule the world.

“Artificial intelligence is the future, not only for Russia, but for all humankind. It comes with colossal opportunities, but also threats that are difficult to predict. Whoever becomes the leader in this sphere will become the ruler of the world,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said.

The master of artificial intelligence, of course, will be ai itself, and indeed it will rule the world.

[jusplay4fun]

Wow, Bernie, more thought: Police AND assault & battery, all in ONE post? I had to use more than one "and" to cite your insults.

That shows growth, from a 3 year old to 4 year old mental ability, Keep going; you will catch me in about 300-400 years at that rate, Bernie. By then the Real Berie will be long gone. SO SAD, Bernie.

BTW: I do more manual labor in one day than you do in one year, since you live in your mother's basement. OH, that is the ONLY one NAKED woman you have seen, your mother. I stand corrected on that KEY Point. Do you bother to mow her lawn, Bernie?

JP

[Bernie Sanders]

Wow, Bernie, more thought: Police AND assault & battery, all in ONE post? I had to use more than one "and" to cite your insults.

That shows growth, from a 3 year old to 4 year old mental ability, Keep going; you will catch me in about 300-400 years at that rate, Bernie. By then the Real Berie will be long gone. SO SAD, Bernie.

BTW: I do more manual labor in one day than you do in one year, since you live in your mother's basement. OH, that is the ONLY one NAKED woman you have seen, your mother. I stand corrected on that KEY Point. Do you bother to mow her lawn, Bernie?

JP

I'm old enough to be your Grandpa, heck you might be my Grandchild. Seeing how you post and your sensitivity to any sort of criticism, you came from a long line of slutty single Mothers. Dad was not around, heh? At least the one that your Mom told you about.

I may be your Daddy, but don't rush to any conclusions as I was probably one of hundreds who waited in line to bang that depository of sperm.

[karel]

trust me bernie has no clue whats going on,he just another idiot liberal f*ck...hate,hate all you preach

[Bernie Sanders]

trust me bernie has no clue whats going on,he just another idiot liberal f*ck...hate,hate all you preach

Hey free loader! Still enjoying your freebie account to post your silliness.

Upgrade your account, finish High School and stop watching Fox and Friends.

[armati]

WAR

War is the means by which the central bankers advance their agenda. Rakovsky says Trotsky was behind the murder of Arch Duke Ferdinand (which sparked WWI.) He recalls the phrase used by the mother of the five Rothschild brothers: "'If my sons want it, then there will be no war.' This means that they were the arbiters, the masters of peace and war, but not emperors. Are you capable of visualizing the fact of such a cosmic importance? Is not war already a revolutionary function? War? The Commune. Since that time every war was a giant step towards Communism."

After the murder of [Illuminati member Weimar Foreign Minister] Walter Rathenau in 1922, the Illuminati give political or financial positions only to intermediaries, Rakowsky says. "Obviously to persons who are trustworthy and loyal, which can be guaranteed a thousand ways: thus one can assert that those bankers and politicians [in the public eye] - are only men of straw . . . even though they occupy very high places and are made to appear to be the authors of the plans which are carried out." Think Barack Obama.

In 1938, Rakovsky outlined three reasons for the upcoming Second World War. The first is that Hitler began to print his own money. "This is very serious. Much more than all the external and cruel factors in National-Socialism."

Secondly, the "fully developed nationalism of Western Europe is an obstacle to Marxism...the need for the destruction of nationalism is alone worth a war in Europe."

Finally, Communism cannot triumph unless it suppresses the "still living Christianity." He refers to the "permanent revolution" as dating from the birth of Christ, and the reformation as "its first partial victory" because it split Christianity. This suggests that the "conspiracy" also contains a racial or religious factor.

"In reality, Christianity is our only real enemy since all the political and economic phenomena of the Bourgeois States. Christianity controlling the individual is capable of annulling the revolutionary projection of the neutral Soviet or Atheist State."

Now the Central Bankers are promoting World War Three as in "The Clash of Civilizations." Substitute Islam for Christianity above, and pit "Christians" against them

[jusplay4fun]

As previously stated by others, not JUS by me, Bernie is clueless.

JUS for the record, I am older than 45, I have 2 adult children (over 21), and had Dad at home with Mom. They were married nearly 60 years before he died.

Bernie could not be my father.

Bernie falls back on his only means of "debate" which are a) insults and b) name calling.

Rush to conclusion? No, I do not. Bernie has repeatedly proven what he is about.

So, again, Bernie discusses things he is clueless about and proves that:

1) he is stupid and

2) that Bernie is full of shit.

Because of Bernie, this discussion of History and current world affairs has degenerated into a atring of insults. Bernie prefers to live and muddle in the mud of stoooopity and insults.

JP4Fun

Wow, Bernie, more thought: Police AND assault & battery, all in ONE post? I had to use more than one "and" to cite your insults.

That shows growth, from a 3 year old to 4 year old mental ability, Keep going; you will catch me in about 300-400 years at that rate, Bernie. By then the Real Berie will be long gone. SO SAD, Bernie.

BTW: I do more manual labor in one day than you do in one year, since you live in your mother's basement. OH, that is the ONLY one NAKED woman you have seen, your mother. I stand corrected on that KEY Point. Do you bother to mow her lawn, Bernie?

JP

I'm old enough to be your Grandpa, heck you might be my Grandchild. Seeing how you post and your sensitivity to any sort of criticism, you came from a long line of slutty single Mothers. Dad was not around, heh? At least the one that your Mom told you about.

I may be your Daddy, but don't rush to any conclusions as I was probably one of hundreds who waited in line to bang that depository of sperm.

[jusplay4fun]

Let's reset: here is the last serious post on the topic at hand, before Bernie put his mark on another thread and managed to drag it into the mud of stupidity and insults. Bernie again shows his lack of analysis and lack of intellgent thought.

JP4F

Until the Korean War kicked off 5 years later.

The division of Korea was the same as the division of Germany and started immediately after the war. There was our side and the Russian side. Immediately after the war, the battleground was not yet Korea expansion but China.

With the end of the war with Japan, the Chinese Civil War resumed between the Communists and Nationalists. While the Communists were struggling for supremacy in Manchuria, they were supported by the North Korean government with matériel and manpower.[79] According to Chinese sources, the North Koreans donated 2,000 railway cars worth of supplies while thousands of Koreans served in the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) during the war.[80] North Korea also provided the Chinese Communists in Manchuria with a safe refuge for non-combatants and communications with the rest of China.[79]

But I assumed you already knew about your glorious history.

Stalin initially did not think the time was right for a war in Korea. Chinese Communist forces were still embroiled in the Chinese Civil War, while U.S. forces remained stationed in South Korea.[90] By spring 1950, he believed that the strategic situation had changed: Mao's Communist forces had secured final victory in China, U.S. forces had withdrawn from Korea, and the Soviets detonated their first nuclear bomb, breaking the U.S. atomic monopoly. As the U.S. had not directly intervened to stop the communist victory in China, Stalin calculated that they would be even less willing to fight in Korea, which had much less strategic significance. The Soviets had also cracked the codes used by the U.S. to communicate with their embassy in Moscow, and reading these dispatches convinced Stalin that Korea did not have the importance to the US that would warrant a nuclear confrontation.[91]

So let's recap, it took the establishment of the communists in China and the security of the bomb in the hands of the Soviets that allowed Stalin to, with Mao's aid, allow the North Koreans to make the push into the rest of Korea. Waiting for the right conditions does not mean the events are unconnected.

[Bernie Sanders]

Let's reset: here is the last serious post on the topic at hand, before Bernie put his mark on another thread and managed to drag it into the mud of stupidity and insults. Bernie again shows his lack of analysis and lack of intellgent thought.

JP4F

Until the Korean War kicked off 5 years later.

The division of Korea was the same as the division of Germany and started immediately after the war. There was our side and the Russian side. Immediately after the war, the battleground was not yet Korea expansion but China.

With the end of the war with Japan, the Chinese Civil War resumed between the Communists and Nationalists. While the Communists were struggling for supremacy in Manchuria, they were supported by the North Korean government with matériel and manpower.[79] According to Chinese sources, the North Koreans donated 2,000 railway cars worth of supplies while thousands of Koreans served in the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) during the war.[80] North Korea also provided the Chinese Communists in Manchuria with a safe refuge for non-combatants and communications with the rest of China.[79]

But I assumed you already knew about your glorious history.

Stalin initially did not think the time was right for a war in Korea. Chinese Communist forces were still embroiled in the Chinese Civil War, while U.S. forces remained stationed in South Korea.[90] By spring 1950, he believed that the strategic situation had changed: Mao's Communist forces had secured final victory in China, U.S. forces had withdrawn from Korea, and the Soviets detonated their first nuclear bomb, breaking the U.S. atomic monopoly. As the U.S. had not directly intervened to stop the communist victory in China, Stalin calculated that they would be even less willing to fight in Korea, which had much less strategic significance. The Soviets had also cracked the codes used by the U.S. to communicate with their embassy in Moscow, and reading these dispatches convinced Stalin that Korea did not have the importance to the US that would warrant a nuclear confrontation.[91]

So let's recap, it took the establishment of the communists in China and the security of the bomb in the hands of the Soviets that allowed Stalin to, with Mao's aid, allow the North Koreans to make the push into the rest of Korea. Waiting for the right conditions does not mean the events are unconnected.

Still can't stop thinking of me, huh. Have I hurt you that much?

You have to stop obsessing about me, my little Viking wannabe.



Do you think of me when you hear this song?

[tzor]

I'm old enough to be your Grandpa, heck you might be my Grandchild.

Not very impressive. That's what ... like +40? I'm old enough to be a lot of people's Grandpa, that doesn't mean I boast about it.
Now boating you could be a great grandpa to a 20 year old ... that's impressive.

[jusplay4fun]

Bernie,

You failed to read the top of page 2. Your comments continue to validate that assessment. You're still FULL of SHIT.

JP

[hotfire]

You mean WWIII

[Thorthoth]

...or maybe just too obsessed with this WWII thread.

[betiko]

Is the western world still too focused on and traumatized by WWII events that it still dictates current events?

I grew up watching "Hogan's Heroes."

Most people wouldn't know WWII if it came and slapped them on the bottom. What they know are the propaganda of the victors. This is why we obsess over the German Concentration Camps and ignore the Camps set up to contain American Citizens of Japan descent. This is why we obsess over the mass killings in those camps by the Germans but we never obsess over the mass killings and genocides of the Russians.

Everyone obsesses over the two nuclear bombs the United States dropped on Japan but forget the firebombing of Toyko killed more and damaged more. There are lots of complex things about the war that gets ignored. War is hell, and WWII is a good example of a big war. But tell that to the guys who suffered the hell of Korea, or the hell of Vietnam, or the hell of Iraq. Hell is hell.

Looks like you don t understand... ethnic epuration, the will to make a whole ethnic group disapear is significantly worse than "normal war crimes".
And i doubt the firebombing of tokyo had all the consequences in tokyo than the h bomb in hiroshima and nagasaki

[thegreekdog]

"Serious" questions: How many Nazis were at the Charleston thingy? My understanding is that there were maybe 1,000. While that is 1,000 too many, I'm confused as to the reaction people have to the thing. The president's response was very bad, but the Charleston protests (is that what it was?) were covered prior to the president's response. So I guess my serious question is why are we spending time on 1,000 Nazis? What policies have these American Nazis influenced or imposed on the United States?

Also... substitute "Antifa" for "Nazi" and I have the same serious questions. Why are we paying attention these people? Attention is what these people want and we're giving it to them because we're stupid (or just being trolled by Russia).

[hotfire]

Policies? Why is that the only influence we should be concerned about? What about influencing our youth and harassing ethnicities is unconcerning?

[armati]

Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
September 08, 2017
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
by George Reisman, Mises Institute:

My purpose today is to make just two main points: (1) To show why Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And (2) to show why socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.

The identification of Nazi Germany as a socialist state was one of the many great contributions of Ludwig von Mises.

When one remembers that the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party — Mises's identification might not appear all that noteworthy. For what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?

READ MORE

Just happened to see the article at SGTreport.com

I dont think people are too obsessed with ww2, there are alot of interesting things about it that affect us today, but the biggest lesson might simply be increasing casualties from the first war to the 2nd, the 3rd war should kill us all. duh

The americans are obviously the warmongers that threaten us all with it.
I think people need to do what they can to stop them however small the action.

The American people could stop being so patriotically blind and stop joining their military,(not gonna happen I know) people could stop accepting U.S. currency, boycott Israel.(ya sure, I can see the christians doing that)

Im sure there is lots people could do, those are just off the top of my head.

If the world doesnt unite in stopping them, forget the governments, the people, if we dont stop them, we really could be done.

That could be the ultimate lesson from ww 2.