White privilege is a myth.

[Symmetry]

Charlize Theron is an African American. 99% of black Americans are not African.

-TG

I'm not a fan of the term personally. It gets weird when I get told off by Americans for using "black". I've been told to use "African American" even when it's very clear I'm talking about someone who's British..

I try to accommodate.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Charlize Theron is an African American. 99% of black Americans are not African.

-TG

I'm not a fan of the term personally. It gets weird when I get told off by Americans for using "black". I've been told to use "African American" even when it's very clear I'm talking about someone who's British..

I try to accommodate.

And that's not an example of "PC gone mad" how?

-TG

[mrswdk]

My favorite example of 'PC gone mad' was Ultron.

[2dimes]

If the stats are to be believed, roughly 1 in 6 African American men are, or have been jailed. That's a major problem, and an injustice. About 1 in 100 African American women.

For what it's worth, Clinton at least promised to tackle this.

Hillary should be one of the easiest examples of a person using White privilege to stay out of prison. For what that's worth!

[william18]

If the stats are to be believed, roughly 1 in 6 African American men are, or have been jailed. That's a major problem, and an injustice. About 1 in 100 African American women.

For what it's worth, Clinton at least promised to tackle this.

Hillary should be one of the easiest examples of a person using White privilege to stay out of prison. For what that's worth!

That not really white privilege. The obama administration is using its influence to protect Hillary for political reasons. This is a form of political corruption.

[Bernie Sanders]

I think the notion that white people are the only ones to have it good is false. Look at the Asian demographic. Are Asians white? Are Asians benefiting from white privilege? They in fact out perform caucasians in terms of income, education, quality of life.

I would actually like to hear examples of White Privilage. Most if not all are derived from misfortune experienced by 'people of color'.

....said the White Guy

[william18]

Im not gonna quote all that to make it easier on the eyes.

Firstly, I think Clinton is just pandaring to the black community, big time. Her top two political leaders as she mentioned were Obama and Mandella. Not democratic heroes like Franklin Roosevelt.

Not only that, but considering that Hilary Clinton has accepted money from prison lobbyists, I doubt she will try to reduce prison population, hence cutting into prison revenue.

It's unfortunate that blacks are the majority in jail, but I think instead of going on wild goose chases in the form of trying to identify and fix instances of oppression in legislation, they should address the reality that many left wingers fail to accept: gang culture.

I'm not sure if you have the equivalent of Chicago or Baltimore in the UK, but kids in these areas are born into gang culture. Poverty and dismal education is the main culprit, as well as the viscous cycle of single mothers, and families resorting to crime to make ends meet. These kids don't want to be clutching a 9mm on the street whenever a vehicle with tinted windows pulls up. Equalizing the sentences isn't going to help them get off the streets.

You can't embed that many quoutes in a post. That's just a thing. I don't make the rules, but that's what they are. Cute that you tried to pretend it was deliberate though.

I'm glad to see that you've latched on to the major issues at least. Endemic poverty and a legal system that is inherently biased. I am curious though, do you see a connection?

I mean, you've accepted that the legal system is unfair, and that black families are disproportionately affected, right? Do you think that has no effect on kids?

I'm curious, as you seem to have backed into a corner with this. Either jailing African Americans at a far far higher rate leads to the problems you bring up, say single-mums, poverty, and gangs, or it doesn't.

If it doesn't, can you even argue that you're being realistic anymore?

I didn't actually attempt to quote it, i haven't been on this forum for a while, so that must be a coincidence.

On the case of imprisonment it very well does affect the black community. But they are breaking the law aren't they? I would rather we made efforts to implement initiatives that can enrich communities and stop crime, instead of playing with sentence lengths.

Do you think that the imprisonment rates, and racially biased sentencing help communities and stop crime?

I really don't see how creating more families without parents helps.

This is a funny thing with the left, they have a propensity for shifting responsibility from themselves. Over 90 percent of blacks kill other blacks. Blacks are robbing their own communities, they aren't driving to the suburbs just to hit a lick. I'm confident when some one who subscribes to black lives matter think about the reasons why blacks are suffering in america, they have an image of a white male cop, or perhaps any white person of affluence, instead of the gangsters really responsible. Blacks complaining about unfair sentencing is like a terminal cancer patient blaming the doctors because he got the wrong sleep meds.

If you really think that 20% increase in male sentences is the reason for the failure of negro's in america, than you are delusional. Right now you are literally arguing for criminals to get back on the street quicker. I wonder if a black man raped you or a significant other(in the US blacks dominate interracial rape) how would you feel if the courts became proactive in reducing the sentence by 20%.

[william18]

That is a a fair example of institutional bias. But that's not really an example people use when invoking 'White Privilege'. 'Hey, you don't know what its like serving 20% more prison time than a white man.". Unless they are criminals neither do they. When people such as SJW and regressive left point out white privilege, alot of the time it's to invalidate any opinions or arguments a person has simply because they are white, and have never faced 'hardship from institutional oppression". They are making assumptions based of color which is racist.

I think the notion that white people are the only ones to have it good is false. Look at the Asian demographic. Are Asians white? Are Asians benefiting from white privilege? They in fact out perform caucasians in terms of income, education, quality of life.

I would actually like to hear examples of White Privilage. Most if not all are derived from misfortune experienced by 'people of color'.

....said the White Guy

Make a point then, instead of proving the one I just made.

[Metsfanmax]

ITT: random internet person disproves an entire sociological construction with an anecdotal experience in an airport.

I saw a comment like this coming when I wrote my OP.

What happened after that? Did you decide that since you had the right to shitpost, you might as well go for it anyway?

[thegreekdog]

ITT: random internet person disproves an entire sociological construction with an anecdotal experience in an airport.

Separately, I wonder in 2016 how much wealth factors into fear/hate/differences than race or ethnicity.

I'm not sure it's ever been separate. Inequality, whether perceived or real has always been a part of racism.

I've said this before, probably in this forum, that most people are likely to treat a poor person a certain way regardless of skin color. Personally, if you put me in West Philadelphia or Western Kentucky, I'm going to have the same fears despite that the primary racial group in those places are completely different.

[thegreekdog]

The problem with black racism in America (as compared to others) is that the racism has been institutionalized. There were laws preventing blacks from doing various things (including, you know, slavery). The question is how to fix that and the answer is that I don't think there is an answer. It's too late. You can't go back and time and fix it. All you can do is make it equal for the people living in 2016. And, as far as I can tell, it is equal. There is nothing institutional that prevents anyone from any race from doing anything. A black person can do anything he or she wants within the confines of the law which is no longer racial in nature.

The next question is, why do black people have the issues they have now? Is that because white people are racist in 2016 or is that because there were racist laws in 1960 (or 1860) (and, as indicated above, we can't change that) or is that for some other reasons? With some exceptions, I do not think actual racism exists in the United States in the vast majority of places such that a black person cannot get a job or vote or whatever because he or she is black. In fact, in many places, it's easier for a black person to succeed than a similarly situated white person because of their skin color (I am not judging that; I'm just saying).

For me it's about social class, not racial, ethnic, or religious class. Poor people, no matter skin color, ethnicity, or religion, have a harder time than rich people. A black corporate lawyer's kids are going to have an easier time succeeding in life than some white miner's kids because of money. A white corporate lawyer's kids are going to have an easier time succeeding in life than some white miner's kids, for that matter.

I'm not suggesting that racism doesn't exist; clearly it does. I'm saying it's no longer institutional. Basing any discussion of widespread issues like poverty, education, or crime on race is silly primarily because it's not a factor.

[demonfork]

ITT: random internet person disproves an entire sociological construction with an anecdotal experience in an airport.

I saw a comment like this coming when I wrote my OP.

What happened after that? Did you decide that since you had the right to shitpost, you might as well go for it anyway?

Obviously I realized that this type of view would come from a dipshit like yourself so in the end I considered the source.

[Metsfanmax]

ITT: random internet person disproves an entire sociological construction with an anecdotal experience in an airport.

I saw a comment like this coming when I wrote my OP.

What happened after that? Did you decide that since you had the right to shitpost, you might as well go for it anyway?

Obviously I realized that this type of view would come from a dipshit like yourself so in the end I considered the source.

In other words, you get a pass on considering arguments that are inconvenient for your perspective because you don't like the people who make them? Convenient.

To get slightly back to the original question, your statement that all privilege is due to wealth is a slap in the face to every black person (or other minority) in the US who has ever been denied a service or been treated preferentially against because of their skin color. Go talk to one of those black people in first class, ask them if they're treated differently from white people who have similar levels of money. They'll be able to give you numerous examples. You picked one of the very few examples where it's a little hard for racism to be apparent; it's nonsense to conclude from this experience that there is no privilege associated with being white.

[mrswdk]

Don't forget all those white guys who've been denied from joining in with the b-ball games in their neighborhood courts, or spent years being told they might as well give up sports altogether because they're not as athletic as black guys.

America be cray cray y'allllll

[Dukasaur]

White men can't jump.

[mrswdk]

Case in point.

[william18]

White men can't jump.

A black person can perform any ridiculous dance move, and be considered an amazing dancer.