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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby jgordon1111 on Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:33 pm

UCA, think of it like this , what a propaganda tool, to let say Isis or north Korea and maybe others think this is real, I loled when the thought crossed my mind . imagine groups of the seriously stupid wondering around freezing their asses off looking for uranium
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:08 pm

UCAbears wrote:Is the Earth Flat? Or is it a Ball?
Why is Antartica blocked from claim?
Why did Richard E. Byrd, a decorated veteran, claim he reached a giant ice wall, after flying south over Antartica, that he could not fly above, and that is was rich with coal, uranium, and possibly oil?
Why did the U.S. and Russia launch a number of nukes into the sky in the 1950's? What were they trying to destroy?
Why is the U.N. Logo that of a Flat Earth model?
Why can you not book a direct flight from Cape Town, South Africa to Sao Paulo, Brazil among others, without a connection flight to the north? Shouldn't it be a straight shot if the world is round?


Why do you believe what you believe? Hasn't everything you know been planted in you, over and over, since you can remember? Doesn't the government decide what is taught in school? Haven't they pretty much always? Take a look around you and really try to look at the big picture.

Let God be true, but every man a liar. - Romans 3:4
Questioning is fine, but God does not teach us to lie. Believing the things you insinuate requires God to have created the Earth as a lie. The evidence you claim is being fabricated is not even close to all the evidence in most of these issues. It is just the latest round of conspiracies.

You say question... fine, but that includes the PEOPLE who are telling you what the Bible says. Read it yourself, and do some research. There is no inconsistency between the Bible and science, only between what some people find it easier to think the Bible is saying. It was one thing for ancient people to not understand science. For modern individuals, with full access to all kinds of evidence to do the same requires some serious deception.
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:12 pm

If the earth is flat how does gravity work?
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby Bernie Sanders on Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:14 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:UCA, think of it like this , what a propaganda tool, to let say Isis or north Korea and maybe others think this is real, I loled when the thought crossed my mind . imagine groups of the seriously stupid wondering around freezing their asses off looking for uranium


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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby tzor on Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:12 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:UCA, think of it like this , what a propaganda tool, to let say Isis or north Korea and maybe others think this is real, I loled when the thought crossed my mind . imagine groups of the seriously stupid wondering around freezing their asses off looking for uranium


The last thing we need is North Korea to discover Gault's Gulch. :twisted:
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby Keefie on Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:12 pm

It is possible to fly direct from Johannesburg to Sao Paolo.
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby UCAbears on Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:21 pm

Have you flown it?
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby UCAbears on Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:23 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:If the earth is flat how does gravity work?


Gravity isn't real ;)
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby UCAbears on Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:27 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
UCAbears wrote:Is the Earth Flat? Or is it a Ball?
Why is Antartica blocked from claim?
Why did Richard E. Byrd, a decorated veteran, claim he reached a giant ice wall, after flying south over Antartica, that he could not fly above, and that is was rich with coal, uranium, and possibly oil?
Why did the U.S. and Russia launch a number of nukes into the sky in the 1950's? What were they trying to destroy?
Why is the U.N. Logo that of a Flat Earth model?
Why can you not book a direct flight from Cape Town, South Africa to Sao Paulo, Brazil among others, without a connection flight to the north? Shouldn't it be a straight shot if the world is round?


Why do you believe what you believe? Hasn't everything you know been planted in you, over and over, since you can remember? Doesn't the government decide what is taught in school? Haven't they pretty much always? Take a look around you and really try to look at the big picture.

Let God be true, but every man a liar. - Romans 3:4
Questioning is fine, but God does not teach us to lie. Believing the things you insinuate requires God to have created the Earth as a lie. The evidence you claim is being fabricated is not even close to all the evidence in most of these issues. It is just the latest round of conspiracies.

You say question... fine, but that includes the PEOPLE who are telling you what the Bible says. Read it yourself, and do some research. There is no inconsistency between the Bible and science, only between what some people find it easier to think the Bible is saying. It was one thing for ancient people to not understand science. For modern individuals, with full access to all kinds of evidence to do the same requires some serious deception.


If there are no inconsistenties between the Bible and science, why do many scientist and physicists in particular seem to mock it and teach against its word?
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:43 pm

UCAbears wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
UCAbears wrote:Is the Earth Flat? Or is it a Ball?
Why is Antartica blocked from claim?
Why did Richard E. Byrd, a decorated veteran, claim he reached a giant ice wall, after flying south over Antartica, that he could not fly above, and that is was rich with coal, uranium, and possibly oil?
Why did the U.S. and Russia launch a number of nukes into the sky in the 1950's? What were they trying to destroy?
Why is the U.N. Logo that of a Flat Earth model?
Why can you not book a direct flight from Cape Town, South Africa to Sao Paulo, Brazil among others, without a connection flight to the north? Shouldn't it be a straight shot if the world is round?


Why do you believe what you believe? Hasn't everything you know been planted in you, over and over, since you can remember? Doesn't the government decide what is taught in school? Haven't they pretty much always? Take a look around you and really try to look at the big picture.

Let God be true, but every man a liar. - Romans 3:4
Questioning is fine, but God does not teach us to lie. Believing the things you insinuate requires God to have created the Earth as a lie. The evidence you claim is being fabricated is not even close to all the evidence in most of these issues. It is just the latest round of conspiracies.

You say question... fine, but that includes the PEOPLE who are telling you what the Bible says. Read it yourself, and do some research. There is no inconsistency between the Bible and science, only between what some people find it easier to think the Bible is saying. It was one thing for ancient people to not understand science. For modern individuals, with full access to all kinds of evidence to do the same requires some serious deception.


If there are no inconsistenties between the Bible and science, why do many scientist and physicists in particular seem to mock it and teach against its word?

I don't think anyone mocks the Bible as such. They mock people who would base their understanding of the world on a book of fairy tales, no matter how rich and delightful that book is.

I don't think many people mock Grimm's fairy tales, either, but if you were to turn around and pretend that they were the revealed word of "God" I would definitely mock you for that.
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby UCAbears on Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:55 pm

But what about all of the different books that make up the bible? The Bible was made by man. The words in the books in the bible however, were not. The people that created the bible for their own benefit politically, tried to hide the Book of Enoch because it gives a bright look at the truth. It was only discovered in 1984, in pretty sure. Although, I keep an open mind about most of these types of discussions, I love different outlooks on things, that's the main reason I posted this was to get different opinions. Having said that, maybe it's possible the books of the bible have been underwritten by someone or somebodies. It's fun to ponder, unless it affects how you operate in order to survive, and then it's a little too serious. :)
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby waauw on Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:14 pm

What is your position on the mythical city/land of Atlantis?
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby KoolBak on Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:26 pm

Here's one that pisses me off. All new cars have their headlights on all the time as default. You can't even turn them off. They claim "safety" as the logic behind it. Bullshit. It's a conspiracy by the headlight manufacturers to double their income in replacement lights. On twice as often = burn out twice as fast. My old truck doesn't think for me dammit....to express my anger, I never turn mine on, even at night! That'll show those bastards.....

And where are the impirical results showing how many lives were saved? What about all the excess heat all those lights generate? Global warming?? Bastards....
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby waauw on Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:27 pm

KoolBak wrote:Here's one that pisses me off. All new cars have their headlights on all the time as default. You can't even turn them off. They claim "safety" as the logic behind it. Bullshit. It's a conspiracy by the headlight manufacturers to double their income in replacement lights. On twice as often = burn out twice as fast. My old truck doesn't think for me dammit....to express my anger, I never turn mine on, even at night! That'll show those bastards.....

And where are the impirical results showing how many lives were saved? What about all the excess heat all those lights generate? Global warming?? Bastards....


You're forgetting all the light polution! It's a conspiracy against the stars.
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:28 pm

KoolBak wrote:Here's one that pisses me off. All new cars have their headlights on all the time as default. You can't even turn them off. They claim "safety" as the logic behind it. Bullshit. It's a conspiracy by the headlight manufacturers to double their income in replacement lights. On twice as often = burn out twice as fast. My old truck doesn't think for me dammit....to express my anger, I never turn mine on, even at night! That'll show those bastards.....

And where are the impirical results showing how many lives were saved? What about all the excess heat all those lights generate? Global warming?? Bastards....


I think you're on to something with this one. On my shitty pickup, you can't even replace just the bulb, you have to replace the whole assembly. It's a cash grab!

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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:47 pm

UCAbears wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:If the earth is flat how does gravity work?


Gravity isn't real ;)


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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby jgordon1111 on Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:00 pm

KoolBak wrote:Here's one that pisses me off. All new cars have their headlights on all the time as default. You can't even turn them off. They claim "safety" as the logic behind it. Bullshit. It's a conspiracy by the headlight manufacturers to double their income in replacement lights. On twice as often = burn out twice as fast. My old truck doesn't think for me dammit....to express my anger, I never turn mine on, even at night! That'll show those bastards.....

And where are the impirical results showing how many lives were saved? What about all the excess heat all those lights generate? Global warming?? Bastards....


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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby tzor on Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:44 pm

UCAbears wrote:If there are no inconsistencies between the Bible and science, why do many scientist and physicists in particular seem to mock it and teach against its word?


First and foremost, the Bible is not a science textbook. "The Bible tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go."

Secondly, I've known a lot of physicists. I went to Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and studied physics. We had a lot of radio astronomers as professors. None of them tended to "mock" anything. That's not how science works.

The problem is with people who think that the Bible is a science textbook. In fact they consider the Bible as a "book" and not a collection of "books" which in turn has lost is general meaning, The nuances of the many works that make up the collection of books of the Bible is lost on them. It's not only scientists who look at them funny. They are also funny (and sad in a strange way) from a religious point of view as well.

(For a good time, throw the "Book" of "Job" at them.)
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby UCAbears on Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:08 pm

I don't know about the mythical city of Atlantis or anything. But now that I've looked deeper into Richard Byrds he seems to think the Nazi's are living in the grassy plains and flowing rivers beyond what we know to be the South Pole. But who knows right, maybe they did communicate with Aliens that took them to the Garden of Eden and that is where they stay?

It's all so funny how different everyone's outlook on everything is so different. How interesting.
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby Bernie Sanders on Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:36 pm

UCAbears wrote:I don't know about the mythical city of Atlantis or anything. But now that I've looked deeper into Richard Byrds he seems to think the Nazi's are living in the grassy plains and flowing rivers beyond what we know to be the South Pole. But who knows right, maybe they did communicate with Aliens that took them to the Garden of Eden and that is where they stay?

It's all so funny how different everyone's outlook on everything is so different. How interesting.


You mean, there's no Jews in Eden?
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby UCAbears on Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:06 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:
UCAbears wrote:I don't know about the mythical city of Atlantis or anything. But now that I've looked deeper into Richard Byrds he seems to think the Nazi's are living in the grassy plains and flowing rivers beyond what we know to be the South Pole. But who knows right, maybe they did communicate with Aliens that took them to the Garden of Eden and that is where they stay?

It's all so funny how different everyone's outlook on everything is so different. How interesting.


You mean, there's no Jews in Eden?


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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby Bernie Sanders on Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:13 pm

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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby UCAbears on Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:31 pm

That meme sucks. Hitler didn't admit his sins and ask for forgiveness, he just kept on sinning.
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby PLAYER57832 on Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:42 am

UCAbears wrote:If there are no inconsistenties between the Bible and science, why do many scientist and physicists in particular seem to mock it and teach against its word?
Science is not a set group of people or ideas, its a process. You find evidence, form theories, test them and, in time, come up with few facts, along with a lot more theories.

Because being brilliant in a particular field doesn't automatically mean you understand faith or are even a nice person. It is in the nature of most scientists to question, that is part of why they became scientists. As a result, they tend to question, even deride basically any idea they don't (yet) accept. BUT, the really important part is that even among the most critical of scientists, there is always a fair contingent of people of faith. They are not incompatible. People who seek answers, are open to possibilities are often naturally open to religious speculation. Its just that some want to accept (or think they accept anyway) ONLY that which can be tangibly proven in a testable way. Others, while certainly accepting tangible evidence are more willing to explore the intangible, including religion.

In fact, though there are plenty who disagree with me, I would actually argue that we would not have science without religion, that religion is the original process of defining/quantifying the universe in a way that we can understand (that is, religion is the term for our understanding of God).
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Re: What if everything you thought you knew was a GIANT lie.

Postby Bernie Sanders on Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:51 am

UCAbears wrote:That meme sucks. Hitler didn't admit his sins and ask for forgiveness, he just kept on sinning.


You don't know that and sure it would be nice that Hitler did not go to heaven. BUT, if Hitler asked for forgiveness, GOD! has to give it to him, right? I mean to be Christian is to be forgiven right?

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