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Postby Guilty_Biscuit on Fri May 18, 2007 4:39 pm

Syzygy wrote:Anyone feel like offering a year's free premium for answering some hard puzzle? :D


OK, OK

1 Year's premium mebership for the first person to post a rigorous mathematical proof of the statement:

"Every even integer greater than 2 can be written as the sum of two primes"

For example

4 = 2 + 2
6 = 3 + 3
8 = 3 + 5
10 = 3 + 7 = 5 + 5
12 = 5 + 7
14 = 3 + 11 = 7 + 7
and so on...

No cheating! I'll know :wink:
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Postby Syzygy on Fri May 18, 2007 4:41 pm

Guilty_Biscuit wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Anyone feel like offering a year's free premium for answering some hard puzzle? :D


OK, OK

1 Year's premium mebership for the first person to post a rigorous mathematical proof of the statement:

"Every even integer greater than 2 can be written as the sum of two primes"

For example

4 = 2 + 2
6 = 3 + 3
8 = 3 + 5
10 = 3 + 7 = 5 + 5
12 = 5 + 7
14 = 3 + 11 = 7 + 7
and so on...

No cheating! I'll know :wink:


You promise. :shock: :D :D :D

Because I'll take a crack at it then.
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Postby Syzygy on Fri May 18, 2007 4:42 pm

Wait a second... This hasn't been solved ever before has it.
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Postby Guilty_Biscuit on Fri May 18, 2007 4:45 pm

Oh and by the way wrightfan123

wtf do you mean by this

h=6
k=hSQUARED=6

so...

k=36=6

That statement is complete bollocks.
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Postby Guilty_Biscuit on Fri May 18, 2007 4:46 pm

Syzygy wrote:You promise. :shock: :D :D :D

Because I'll take a crack at it then.


I promise.
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Postby spinwizard on Fri May 18, 2007 4:50 pm

3= 1+2
4= 2+2
5= 2+3
6= 3+3
7= 5+2
8= 5+3
9= 7+2

(BTW, 1 IS NOT PRIME (I THINK) BUT IT IS THE ONLY WAY 2 SOLVE IT!!!)
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Postby Titanic on Fri May 18, 2007 5:53 pm

Guilty_Biscuit wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Anyone feel like offering a year's free premium for answering some hard puzzle? :D


OK, OK

1 Year's premium mebership for the first person to post a rigorous mathematical proof of the statement:

"Every even integer greater than 2 can be written as the sum of two primes"

For example

4 = 2 + 2
6 = 3 + 3
8 = 3 + 5
10 = 3 + 7 = 5 + 5
12 = 5 + 7
14 = 3 + 11 = 7 + 7
and so on...

No cheating! I'll know :wink:


If there is a proof for that, its gunna take a while to sort out...I'll try it for 30 mins tomorrow, but I'm not expecting much.

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Koesen wrote:If you want a hard math problem, try proving that if an integer n is greater than 2, then the equation an + bn = cn has no solutions in non-zero integers a, b, and c.

[edit: sorry, that should read a to the power of n, b to the power of n and c to the power of n)


You didn't state that the following is false:
a=b
b=c
c=a :P

Thus, here is my counter example: a=b=c=1 :lol:


If you make a,b and c all one, that makes 1+1=1, so its wrong...

Btw, there is a proof for Fermats Last Theorem, it was solved in 1994 I think, by an English guy. Took something like 7 years for him to solve it, so we stand no chance.
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Postby dcowboys055 on Fri May 18, 2007 6:41 pm

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Postby Fircoal on Fri May 18, 2007 6:43 pm

This makes me want to post a hard puzzle. :D
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Postby Jehan on Sat May 19, 2007 12:28 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Koesen wrote:If you want a hard math problem, try proving that if an integer n is greater than 2, then the equation an + bn = cn has no solutions in non-zero integers a, b, and c.

[edit: sorry, that should read a to the power of n, b to the power of n and c to the power of n)


You didn't state that the following is false:
a=b
b=c
c=a :P

Thus, here is my counter example: a=b=c=1 :lol:

1+1=1 ??????
hmmmmm

EDIT: I just read titanics post which already pointed this out. my bad.
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Postby diddle on Sat May 19, 2007 4:19 am

the answer is 7
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Postby edbeard on Sat May 19, 2007 4:27 am

Syzygy wrote:Wait a second... This hasn't been solved ever before has it.

you are correct. it's a famous math problem
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Postby diddle on Sat May 19, 2007 4:28 am

edbeard wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Wait a second... This hasn't been solved ever before has it.

you are correct. it's a famous math problem


i solved it, the answer is 7
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Postby Jehan on Sat May 19, 2007 5:29 am

edbeard wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Wait a second... This hasn't been solved ever before has it.

you are correct. it's a famous math problem

according to wikipedia it was solved.
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Postby AtomicSlug on Sat May 19, 2007 2:17 pm

All I think about math is that all irrational numbers should be put on medication.
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Postby edbeard on Sat May 19, 2007 3:05 pm

Jehan wrote:
edbeard wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Wait a second... This hasn't been solved ever before has it.

you are correct. it's a famous math problem

according to wikipedia it was solved.


I'm not sure what you're looking at. I thought this was unlikely so I looked it up.

"As with many famous conjectures in mathematics, there are a number of purported proofs of the Goldbach conjecture, none of which are currently accepted by the mathematical community."

Goldbach's Conjecture
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Postby civver on Sat May 19, 2007 3:39 pm

Guilty_Biscuit wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Anyone feel like offering a year's free premium for answering some hard puzzle? :D


OK, OK

1 Year's premium mebership for the first person to post a rigorous mathematical proof of the statement:

"Every even integer greater than 2 can be written as the sum of two primes"

For example

4 = 2 + 2
6 = 3 + 3
8 = 3 + 5
10 = 3 + 7 = 5 + 5
12 = 5 + 7
14 = 3 + 11 = 7 + 7
and so on...

No cheating! I'll know :wink:

What do you mean by rigorous proof? It can be proven with a few sentences.
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Postby Jehan on Sun May 20, 2007 2:06 am

edbeard wrote:
Jehan wrote:
edbeard wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Wait a second... This hasn't been solved ever before has it.

you are correct. it's a famous math problem

according to wikipedia it was solved.


I'm not sure what you're looking at. I thought this was unlikely so I looked it up.

"As with many famous conjectures in mathematics, there are a number of purported proofs of the Goldbach conjecture, none of which are currently accepted by the mathematical community."

Goldbach's Conjecture


my mistake i thought we were still talking about fermat's last theorem still.
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Postby pancakemix on Sun May 20, 2007 5:58 am

civver wrote:
Guilty_Biscuit wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Anyone feel like offering a year's free premium for answering some hard puzzle? :D


OK, OK

1 Year's premium mebership for the first person to post a rigorous mathematical proof of the statement:

"Every even integer greater than 2 can be written as the sum of two primes"

For example

4 = 2 + 2
6 = 3 + 3
8 = 3 + 5
10 = 3 + 7 = 5 + 5
12 = 5 + 7
14 = 3 + 11 = 7 + 7
and so on...

No cheating! I'll know :wink:


It cannot be proven. That's the answer. There are an infinite number of integers. So you could spend a lifetime trying to prove it and never finish.

I'll take my premium now.
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Postby Titanic on Sun May 20, 2007 8:11 am

pancakemix wrote:
civver wrote:
Guilty_Biscuit wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Anyone feel like offering a year's free premium for answering some hard puzzle? :D


OK, OK

1 Year's premium mebership for the first person to post a rigorous mathematical proof of the statement:

"Every even integer greater than 2 can be written as the sum of two primes"

For example

4 = 2 + 2
6 = 3 + 3
8 = 3 + 5
10 = 3 + 7 = 5 + 5
12 = 5 + 7
14 = 3 + 11 = 7 + 7
and so on...

No cheating! I'll know :wink:


It cannot be proven. That's the answer. There are an infinite number of integers. So you could spend a lifetime trying to prove it and never finish.

I'll take my premium now.


Thats not a reason for it not being able to be proved. Theres an infinate amount of possibilities to Pythagoras, but it has around 400 different proofs.
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Postby pancakemix on Sun May 20, 2007 8:32 am

Titanic wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Guilty_Biscuit wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Anyone feel like offering a year's free premium for answering some hard puzzle? :D


OK, OK

1 Year's premium mebership for the first person to post a rigorous mathematical proof of the statement:

"Every even integer greater than 2 can be written as the sum of two primes"

For example

4 = 2 + 2
6 = 3 + 3
8 = 3 + 5
10 = 3 + 7 = 5 + 5
12 = 5 + 7
14 = 3 + 11 = 7 + 7
and so on...

No cheating! I'll know :wink:


It cannot be proven. That's the answer. There are an infinite number of integers. So you could spend a lifetime trying to prove it and never finish.

I'll take my premium now.


Thats not a reason for it not being able to be proved. Theres an infinite amount of possibilities to Pythagoras, but it has around 400 different proofs.


Yes, it works hundreds of different ways. No, it has not been proven as fact. It's the Pythagorean Theorem. In other words, not proven. It will never be proven as fact, as there are infinite possibilities. So that is a reason why it cannot be proven.
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Postby Titanic on Sun May 20, 2007 9:07 am

pancakemix wrote:
Titanic wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Guilty_Biscuit wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Anyone feel like offering a year's free premium for answering some hard puzzle? :D


OK, OK

1 Year's premium mebership for the first person to post a rigorous mathematical proof of the statement:

"Every even integer greater than 2 can be written as the sum of two primes"

For example

4 = 2 + 2
6 = 3 + 3
8 = 3 + 5
10 = 3 + 7 = 5 + 5
12 = 5 + 7
14 = 3 + 11 = 7 + 7
and so on...

No cheating! I'll know :wink:


It cannot be proven. That's the answer. There are an infinite number of integers. So you could spend a lifetime trying to prove it and never finish.

I'll take my premium now.


Thats not a reason for it not being able to be proved. Theres an infinite amount of possibilities to Pythagoras, but it has around 400 different proofs.


Yes, it works hundreds of different ways. No, it has not been proven as fact. It's the Pythagorean Theorem. In other words, not proven. It will never be proven as fact, as there are infinite possibilities. So that is a reason why it cannot be proven.


From Wikipedia : "a key property of theorems is that they are both true and possess proofs"
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Postby pancakemix on Sun May 20, 2007 9:10 am

Titanic wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Titanic wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
Guilty_Biscuit wrote:
Syzygy wrote:Anyone feel like offering a year's free premium for answering some hard puzzle? :D


OK, OK

1 Year's premium mebership for the first person to post a rigorous mathematical proof of the statement:

"Every even integer greater than 2 can be written as the sum of two primes"

For example

4 = 2 + 2
6 = 3 + 3
8 = 3 + 5
10 = 3 + 7 = 5 + 5
12 = 5 + 7
14 = 3 + 11 = 7 + 7
and so on...

No cheating! I'll know :wink:


It cannot be proven. That's the answer. There are an infinite number of integers. So you could spend a lifetime trying to prove it and never finish.

I'll take my premium now.


Thats not a reason for it not being able to be proved. Theres an infinite amount of possibilities to Pythagoras, but it has around 400 different proofs.


Yes, it works hundreds of different ways. No, it has not been proven as fact. It's the Pythagorean Theorem. In other words, not proven. It will never be proven as fact, as there are infinite possibilities. So that is a reason why it cannot be proven.


From Wikipedia : "a key property of theorems is that they are both true and possess proofs"


If one were to try hard enough, one could succeed.

I will not, as I am not a mathematician, nor do I care to be one.
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Postby spinwizard on Sun May 20, 2007 10:31 am

is'nt an intiger a whole number from 1-9
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Postby Chad22342 on Sun May 20, 2007 10:34 am

spinwizard wrote:is'nt an intiger a whole number from 1-9


No an integer is any whole number...I think
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