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paranoid-android wrote:i was not aware this quote was present in the movie....i think i must dust off the movies to double check that.
paranoid-android wrote:Numia Kereru wrote:I subscribe to the Jedi faith
i'm sorry...but please, never again.
vtmarik wrote:...pants...
Numia Kereru wrote:I'm a staunch follower of the Shaolin religion
qwert wrote:Can i ask you something?What is porpose for you to open these Political topic in ConquerClub? Why you mix politic with Risk? Why you not open topic like HOT AND SEXY,or something like that.
Guiscard wrote:Numia Kereru wrote:I'm a staunch follower of the Shaolin religion
In that case, I'm a follower of Wu-Tang!
z19z4 wrote:oooooooooook ur a just so jelous u dont have 1 to comite to
vtmarik wrote:z19z4 wrote:oooooooooook ur a just so jelous u dont have 1 to comite to
Please, get Firefox, use spell check. I'm begging you.
z19z4 wrote:oooooooooook ur a just so jelous u dont have 1 to comite to
unriggable wrote:z19z4 wrote:oooooooooook ur a just so jelous u dont have 1 to comite to
No, we just don't see the need to go to a church every sunday to pay money to people who abuse children for saying several verses that are in a book written two millenia ago by people we don't even know about claiming to spread the word of god even though they could well have been doing peyote at the time.
I know peyote didn't exist in the Mideast. Shut up.
Opiate by Tool wrote:Choices always were a problem for you
What you need is someone strong to guide you
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
What you need is someone strong to guide you...
Like me
Like me
Like me
Like me
If you want to get your soul to heaven
Trust in me, now don't you judge or question
You are broken now, but faith can heal you
Just do everything i tell you to do
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
What you need is someone strong to guide you
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
Let me lay my holy hand a, hand upon you
My god's will
Becomes me
When he speaks
He speaks through me
He has needs
Like i do
We both want
To rape you
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your light, now
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your lies, now
If you want to get your soul to heaven
Trust in me, now don't you judge or question
You are broken now, but faith can heal you
Just do everything i tell you to do
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your light, now
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your lies, now
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
Let me lay my holy hand a, hand upon you
My god's will
Becomes me
When he speaks
He speaks through me
He has needs
Like i do
We both want
To rape you!
unriggable wrote:Opiate by Tool wrote:Choices always were a problem for you
What you need is someone strong to guide you
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
What you need is someone strong to guide you...
Like me
Like me
Like me
Like me
If you want to get your soul to heaven
Trust in me, now don't you judge or question
You are broken now, but faith can heal you
Just do everything i tell you to do
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
What you need is someone strong to guide you
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
Let me lay my holy hand a, hand upon you
My god's will
Becomes me
When he speaks
He speaks through me
He has needs
Like i do
We both want
To rape you
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your light, now
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your lies, now
If you want to get your soul to heaven
Trust in me, now don't you judge or question
You are broken now, but faith can heal you
Just do everything i tell you to do
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your light, now
Jesus christ, why don't you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your lies, now
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
Let me lay my holy hand a, hand upon you
My god's will
Becomes me
When he speaks
He speaks through me
He has needs
Like i do
We both want
To rape you!
z19z4 wrote:oooooooooook ur a just so jelous u dont have 1 to comite to
Reamus1205 wrote:z19z4 wrote:oooooooooook ur a just so jelous u dont have 1 to comite to
I don't think so. A lot of people have spiritual beliefs that are not represented by an institutional organization. Many people may not be able to fully articulate their beliefs, but everyone has some... even if it IS a complete belief that this physical world and body we have is all there is, and that it's all just a collection of mater and energy.
The fact of the mater is, that religious institutions all over the world are experiencing drops in converts, with the globalization of the world, people's religious and spiritual beliefs are just getting more and more integrated, and with the advances of modern science they are also getting more complex. How do things like the Big Bang, Evolution, and Quantum Theory all enter in to the religious equation?
For example, Imagine a table with jigsaw pieces spread around in what people might consider "a mess." Now imagine that this jigsaw table starts shaking and vibrating. As it does these pieces start to bounce around, and given enough time it is very plausible that some pieces will connect to each other, become one piece, and continue bouncing around until hooking up again. Eventualy it is possible that these pieces all come together to make one complete jigsaw image (say for example with an image of the Mona Lisa on it).
The question one might ask is, "was all of this random chance?" It is understandable to say yes, that this Mona Lisa image sitting on this table is the product of random collisions. However, it would be also understandable to state that no, every motion of those pieces was the direct and predictable result of the motion and force of the table moving.
A greater question then reveals itself... Is the existence of the Mona Lisa chance then, or was there some intelligence with a purpose to create the Mona Lisa?
In the case of the table, the Mona Lisa is in "actual" existence. Meaning it is actualy existing at that moment. However, when the pieces were not together and they were instead scattered all about the table, did the Mona Lisa exist then?
Some might be tempted to say no, but I would like to make a distinction here. I wil contend that the Mona Lisa existed "potentially" when the pieces were scattered about. and when they came together the Mona Lisa existed "actually." However, Da Vinci's Last Supper did not exist potentially. Unless someone changes some of the jigsaw pieces, or makes different color images on each one, there is no possibility of The Last Supper painting coming out the the pieces that made the Mona Lisa.
Does this point to a purpose, or some Intellegent order to the universe? Or not?
Though we can pursue this a heck of a lot further, the point of this examination is to reiterate my initial response... Though the analogy with the table deals with cosmic order and divine intellegence, It has little to do with things like the afterlife, the soul, and many other intagible concepts of metaphysics.
As I said, the initial point is that People's spiritual beliefs are rarely able to be summed up in a couple books of scripture and mythology, and are actually much more complex than any religious institution provides.
Religion and church are good for some people I will admit (it allows some people to focus things they may "feel" but can't articulate). But for many, religions just feel "unsatisfying" in one way or another and never able to help with all issues in that person's life.
Just because someone doesn't choose a religion doesn't mean they are "jealous" of your devotion to a particular one, or that they are naive, or blind. What it most likely means is that what they believe actually IS bigger, or at least not represented, by any particualr religion.
jnd94 wrote:in english please? i dont have the attention span to pay attention to ALL of that.
b.k. barunt wrote:As you can see, there is a lot of hostility on this site toward the "Jesus Freaks". Why do you suppose that is? Well you could just shrug it off (irresponsible at best) and become one of that crowd here. But allow me to submit to you that we have a lot of overbearing, arrogant assholes on this site that drag the name of Jesus through the mud. With 2 or 3 exceptions, the "Jesus Freaks" at CC seem to be using their religion as an excuse to justify their asinine right wing politics. You have already begun to follow their lead with your catty remark: "you're just jealous . . . (nya nya nya). Is this how Jesus would have responded? Take another look at your beliefs and understanding of such before you join the assholes. "Depart from me, I never knew you" is going to come as a very rude surprise to some.
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