End Time Prophesy (Are we living it?)

[Juan_Bottom]

Free Masons!

Which evil Government is currently incarcerating them?

If we're talking about Free Masons, I know a good deal about that

Warning: Member of Global Elite detected

I wouldn't even be allowed in the Free Mason Guild/Temple/whatever. They believe in a God

And Satan! They worship Satan!!! Crazies!

Where'd you hear that? They call their "god" the Great Architect

High rankers!
You said that you were up on this!

The Free masons have had two members who were 20-something-ith degree come forward and say that it was a devil cult. They don't tell members untill they reach a very high degree though. And that that is the reason for such secrecy.

Here's the deal, even if they(leaders) really don't worship the devil, two of their former leaders have said that they do. As A "Christian," how can you still be a part of that? You really would have to quite.

[protectedbygold]

This thread makes good reading. But unfortunately I'd finished on the toilet by page 4....

You take your laptop with you to the toilet?

[Backglass]

The Free masons have had two members who were 20-something-ith degree come forward and say that it was a devil cult.

Wait...let me guess. Now they are both born again christians...right?

So convenient, much like jay's "Atheist turned christian" story he loves to tell.

[InkL0sed]

This thread makes good reading. But unfortunately I'd finished on the toilet by page 4....

You take your laptop with you to the toilet?

Who doesn't?

[kagetora]

High rankers!
You said that you were up on this!

The Free masons have had two members who were 20-something-ith degree come forward and say that it was a devil cult. They don't tell members untill they reach a very high degree though. And that that is the reason for such secrecy.

Here's the deal, even if they(leaders) really don't worship the devil, two of their former leaders have said that they do. As A "Christian," how can you still be a part of that? You really would have to quite.

Have you ever seen a Masonic ceremony? I saw a video of one, and basically it was some poor acting and nothing of worth.
I find it hard to believe that Masons would worship the devil.

[Juan_Bottom]

The Free masons have had two members who were 20-something-ith degree come forward and say that it was a devil cult.

Wait...let me guess. Now they are both born again christians...right?

So convenient, much like jay's "Atheist turned christian" story he loves to tell.

NO! Actually!!!!!!

One of them wrote a book while serving a huge prison sentance. He said that he just figured that the couldn't "get him" while he was locked away!

[kagetora]

And how do we know they just didn't make up lies?

*cough*like most religions*cough*

[Juan_Bottom]

High rankers!
You said that you were up on this!

The Free masons have had two members who were 20-something-ith degree come forward and say that it was a devil cult. They don't tell members untill they reach a very high degree though. And that that is the reason for such secrecy.

Here's the deal, even if they(leaders) really don't worship the devil, two of their former leaders have said that they do. As A "Christian," how can you still be a part of that? You really would have to quite.

Have you ever seen a Masonic ceremony? I saw a video of one, and basically it was some poor acting and nothing of worth.
I find it hard to believe that Masons would worship the devil.

I don't think that the lower degree members would have to worship at all. It would be a dead giveaway anyway. I'd GUESS that the higher-ups just use them.



But really what I'm saying is that they are all devil worshippers through association. Like if I ate everyday at a Jewish resturant or something. I'm supporting that religion. Know what I mean?

[kagetora]

Not if you thought it was something else.

[Juan_Bottom]

And how do we know they just didn't make up lies?

*cough*like most religions*cough*

Here's the deal, even if they(leaders) really don't worship the devil, two of their former leaders have said that they do. As A "Christian," how can you still be a part of that? You really would have to quite.

And, these two were both 20-ish degree. That'd be like the Pope becoming pagan.

Alls I'm sayng is guilty through association, if you'r Christian, Muslim, or anything else. All these religions would forbid it.

[Juan_Bottom]

Not if you thought it was something else.

You're missing the point. They've been told by these two that they are being lied to. Whether or not they believe that is irrelevant, based upon their actual faiths.

[kagetora]

POP QUIZ! How many degrees of Masons are there?

[joecoolfrog]

High rankers!
You said that you were up on this!

The Free masons have had two members who were 20-something-ith degree come forward and say that it was a devil cult. They don't tell members untill they reach a very high degree though. And that that is the reason for such secrecy.

Here's the deal, even if they(leaders) really don't worship the devil, two of their former leaders have said that they do. As A "Christian," how can you still be a part of that? You really would have to quite.

Have you ever seen a Masonic ceremony? I saw a video of one, and basically it was some poor acting and nothing of worth.
I find it hard to believe that Masons would worship the devil.

My father in law was a mason and at one point we discussed my possible entry ( good for business ) but it came to nothing because of a major stimbling block.... one has to profess a belief in God and have some kind of faith. This devil worship idea is a complete load of bollocks !

[Juan_Bottom]

33rd Degree Freemason Albert Pike stated this fact well in his well known book 'Morals And Dogma', "Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explainations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be mislead...page 104-105 The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them, but it is intended he shall imagine he understands them." page 819
Albert Pike was a Luciferian (Follower of Lucifer) who confessed Lucifer as his own god. (see his quote below) He was the former Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of Grand Sovereign Inspectors General of the 33rd Degree. There is also very strong evidence to prove that Pike founded the Klu Klux Klan.


My bad, 30-something-degree(I was thinking he was a 23rd degree)

[kagetora]

Then that makes more sense.

But the question remains, did they just make it up?

Heck, if I was a priest and quit a church saying "This religion worships fecal matter!" when it really worshiped God, I'm just making stuff up right?

[Juan_Bottom]

Then that makes more sense.

But the question remains, did they just make it up?

Heck, if I was a priest and quit a church saying "This religion worships fecal matter!" when it really worshiped God, I'm just making stuff up right?

That's kinda what I'm saying... who really, really knows? Only the highest degrees of Freemasons. BUT! as a Christian, Muslim, or anything.... you're stuck. You can't be associated with that, or you go to Hell. Since you can't know, you kinda gotta assume that they are...

[Hologram]

Then that makes more sense.

But the question remains, did they just make it up?

Heck, if I was a priest and quit a church saying "This religion worships fecal matter!" when it really worshiped God, I'm just making stuff up right?

That's kinda what I'm saying... who really, really knows? Only the highest degrees of Freemasons. BUT! as a Christian, Muslim, or anything.... you're stuck. You can't be associated with that, or you go to Hell. Since you can't know, you kinda gotta assume that they are...

Or join if you want, and at the first sign of devil worship you honor your faith and get out.

[Dancing Mustard]

Since you can't know, you kinda gotta assume that they are...

Surely it's far safer (and more rational) to just assume that you don't actually know, and can't measure the veracity of these two individuals allegations?

[The Weird One]

...if I ate everyday at a Jewish resturant or something. I'm supporting that religion. Know what I mean?

No, I don't know what you mean. That would simply mean that you like their food. Just because you like the food that a certain religion is known to specialixe in, doesn't mean that you want to [or are] supporting that religion.

[Juan_Bottom]

Since you can't know, you kinda gotta assume that they are...

Surely it's far safer (and more rational) to just assume that you don't actually know, and can't measure the veracity of these two individuals allegations?

I know that I'm being controversial here. But I was speaking from the point of view of another other big religion. If I'm a Christian, or Muslim, I can't belong to a Devil Cult, in any form. So I'd have to assume. God's law says that you can only be punished for sinning if you knew that you were sinning. In this case, two high ranking members of the Masons have come forward and said that it is secretly a devil-cult full of secret symbols. You would have to assume that these two were telling the truth.
Now, it wouldn't be that way if they weren't so secretive, even with each other. But as it stands, the lower degree members don't have access to the higher-ups. So they wouldn't be able to satisfactorily know for themselves. You gotta assume. God wouldn't forgive you if someone told you you were in the service of the devil, and you ignored them.

...if I ate everyday at a Jewish resturant or something. I'm supporting that religion. Know what I mean?

No, I don't know what you mean. That would simply mean that you like their food. Just because you like the food that a certain religion is known to specialixe in, doesn't mean that you want to [or are] supporting that religion.

Ok, what??? I was speaking in a different context. You're nit-picking. Or mabye you didn't quit follow...

In your case your money is still funding their church. And in that sense, you're still supporting it. The point is about where your money and time are going. It's not about food.

If Bill Shoes is hiring slaves to put their shoes together, and I buy a lot of Bill Shoes. Then Every pair that I buy Is an endorsment of slavery. It's an association game.

[comic boy]

Devils and Demons........What century are we in

[Juan_Bottom]

Devils and Demons........What century are we in

Oh?

[Backglass]

Devils and Demons........What century are we in

Yup...Invisible Magical Gods and men with wings on their back.

Welcome to your cave Sir...don't fear the Sun...it is your friend.

[jay_a2j]

Economic collapse on our doorstep! (Didn't I say something about this months ago? As well as others?)

When will it collapse Jay? Care to give us a time frame?

Or are all your doomsday prophesies conveniently open ended?

Many say September '08.


As for all this Mason talk, they are Satan worshipers (the higher degree one's anyway) Frogboy its not bullocks. Probably at the lower levels they would like you to have faith in something, so that when you reach the higher degrees it will be easier to "convert " you. And no true Christian would be in the high degrees of Masonry. We know that Satan loses in the end.


You guys would be astounded at how this Satanic Secret Society falls right in line with Bible prophesy. When the Antichrist arises he will be possessed by Satan. He will preform awesome miracles and deceive many. He will FORCE all people to worship him or be put to death. Take his "mark" and your soul belongs to Satan.

[packrat31306]

hmmmmm.......

the topic of freemasonry is really an interesting topic that people can discuss and yet no one really actually "knows" much about. when it comes to freemasons you can study as much as you want, but unless you have an inside source that has chosen to go against what he swore and devulge the inner workings of it, all the information you can come by will be filtered to suit the public perception of a very family oriented, socially acceptable organization.

Let's start with the basics. Masons are not Christians by any means. Christians might have joined the mason organization because they were invited and they believe that it's a great group to join, but masons pray to 3 different gods (yes, they pray). In their secret meetings they will split apart into groups of three and pray their ritual prayer, each allowed only to say one part of their "god's" name. In actuallity each part is a seperate god. Forgive me as i don't remember the names that they use, but i do remember the gods that they pray to. The first is God. The heavenly Father of the Christians (my God), the head of the Holy Trinity. The Second is Baal. If any of you know much about the Bible, Baal is a frequently worshipped god in the old testiment. The third is Osiris, god of the ancient Egyptians. The lower level masons believe that they are praying to the three different parts of the Holy Trinity or whatever they have been told, but they aren't.

Now the reason I said that masons aren't Christians by any means is that if you are a Christian with any level of discernment you would not be found in a group that would not allow you to speak the name of God by yourself. Also, a true Christian wouldn't allow himself to be put into a situation where you would not be allowed to talk about anything that happens in those kind of meetings. When a mason is sworn in he must be blindfolded and kneel before the head of the group while reciting an oath not to speak of anything that happens inside the group. They have a knife or a sword put to the throat or chest (i don't remember which) and recite 3 different oaths stating various things to the extent of devulging secrets of the masons will lead to dismemberment and death.

Masons are not Christians.