gay - is it ok?

[Snorri1234]

It didn't bother me a bit...Homosexuality isn't contagious.

Aren't you afraid of catching TEH GAY????

Besides, if you go by the news, the ones that yell & denounce homosexuality the loudest always seem to be the ones getting caught having an encounter in the highway rest area bathroom.

Hehehehehehe.

[jay_a2j]

My brother is gay and neither one of us was ever sexually abused, so I also think that is a bogus bunch of bullshit.

How do you know? Where you with him every second of his life growing up?

[Anarkistsdream]

My brother is gay and neither one of us was ever sexually abused, so I also think that is a bogus bunch of bullshit.

How do you know? Where you with him every second of his life growing up?

Oh f*ck off, Jay... I'm not even getting into this conversation with you. My brother and I have already talked about all of this shit for the last 20 years, since he knew he was gay.

[Snorri1234]

My brother is gay and neither one of us was ever sexually abused, so I also think that is a bogus bunch of bullshit.

How do you know? Where you with him every second of his life growing up?

OH ACTUALLY HE WAS OBVIOUSLY MOLESTED! CUZ GOD WOULDN'T MAKE PEOPLE GAY AND STUFF!

[rambos poodle]

My brother is gay and neither one of us was ever sexually abused, so I also think that is a bogus bunch of bullshit.

How do you know? Where you with him every second of his life growing up?

Not all gay people are sexual adused , just as not all heterosexuals are sexual adused ,just the very unfortunate have this done to them by people that are very sick what ever there gender or sexuality

[jay_a2j]

My brother is gay and neither one of us was ever sexually abused, so I also think that is a bogus bunch of bullshit.

How do you know? Where you with him every second of his life growing up?

Oh f*ck off, Jay... I'm not even getting into this conversation with you. My brother and I have already talked about all of this shit for the last 20 years, since he knew he was gay.

I know a guy, who happens to be gay. In our conversations he always denied being sexually abused as a child. YEARS later he finally admitted that he was abused. There is a tremendous amount of shame that people undergo when they are abused. So much so, that often times they remain silent.


I believe abuse to be one cause of homosexuality.... poor relationship with a father, another. There may be even other reasons. But in no way to I believe people are "born" that way.

[Anarkistsdream]

Well, good for you, Jay... I'm glad that you have conviction in your beliefs.

We will agree to disagree, though, and that is that.

[Snorri1234]

Not even that, I will rest assured in the belief that Jay is entirely wrong regarding this. People are born gay.

[b.k. barunt]

So i guess that if you're born stupid, there's no sense in trying to educate yourself?


Honibaz

[freezie]

You don't have The Real World... From MTV?

I don't even know if I have that channel. Well maybe I do, hidden among the 500 other crap channels there..

But I only really watch french TV..



And Jay...It's not because some gays were abused that everyone are. I know a bunch...Like over 40 people..Who are not straight, and none of them got abused.

At least, the most of them, since they are very open.

[freezie]

So i guess that if you're born stupid, there's no sense in trying to educate yourself?


Honibaz

How is that even revelent to the situation?

Intelligence and knowledge must be aquired in order to become smart. You cannot be borned with every knowledge of the world.

And be borned '' stupid'' you probably mean a mental disfunction, and there is help and special education systems for that. Of course, we can't place all the people in the same basket.

But there is ways to overcome this. Homosexuality is not a disfunction, therefore it's in no way related that what you just said.

[unriggable]

So i guess that if you're born stupid, there's no sense in trying to educate yourself?


Honibaz

You're dumb...its not about dysfunction it's about biological preference. Would you like tot each left-handed people the correct way to write while you're at it?

[Snorri1234]

So i guess that if you're born stupid, there's no sense in trying to educate yourself?


Honibaz

You're dumb...its not about dysfunction it's about biological preference. Would you like tot each left-handed people the correct way to write while you're at it?

Fun fact: That was actually common practice not too long ago. Left-handed kids had to write with their right hands, which caused them to do bad at school.

[unriggable]

So i guess that if you're born stupid, there's no sense in trying to educate yourself?


Honibaz

You're dumb...its not about dysfunction it's about biological preference. Would you like tot each left-handed people the correct way to write while you're at it?

Fun fact: That was actually common practice not too long ago. Left-handed kids had to write with their right hands, which caused them to do bad at school.

I know, the times are a-changin'.

[Natali]

There actually exists evolutionary explanation for homosexuality. Group (family) can actually benefit (genetically) if one member is gay. Let me make an example:
Person A (heterosexual) has three sisters and they are all heterosexual. They will marry and raise one child each. That means that this family, let's call it A will have 4 children totally.
Person B (homosexual male) has three sisters and they are also heterosexual, but what is the difference? Since person B is homosexual and as such can't have his own children, he'll be able to help each of his sisters to raise one child more than sisters in the A family. Since each of B's sisters will have two children each that means that family B will have totally six children despite the fact that person B is homosexual. On the contrary persons B homosexuality is genetically beneficent to family B because they will have more children and more genes transfered into the next generation than the A family. Person B can help his sisters to raise one extra child because he doesn't have his own and as such he can divert his resources and time into raising his siblings.

Homosexuality isn't limited to Homo sapiens species only. There exists a subspecies of chimpanzees in Africa called bonobo, their whole social structure is based on sex. To put it simply they use sex as a way of reducing social tension. When any bonobo individual is annoyed or irritated he can just "hump" on his/her's clan mate and reduce the tension. Gender is irrelevant.

Conclusion: Homosexuality is perfectly natural phenomenon.

One time I was in the coffee bar with a friend and on the couch next to our table one couple practically had sex. Ok they were dressed, but they were cuddling so intensively that we thought that they will engage in sexual intercourse in just a mater of minutes. I'm straight but that was repulsive.

Gay is OK!

[jay_a2j]

There actually exists evolutionary explanation for homosexuality. Group (family) can actually benefit (genetically) if one member is gay. Let me make an example:
Person A (heterosexual) has three sisters and they are all heterosexual. They will marry and raise one child each. That means that this family, let's call it A will have 4 children totally.
Person B (homosexual male) has three sisters and they are also heterosexual, but what is the difference? Since person B is homosexual and as such can't have his own children, he'll be able to help each of his sisters to raise one child more than sisters in the A family. Since each of B's sisters will have two children each that means that family B will have totally six children despite the fact that person B is homosexual. On the contrary persons B homosexuality is genetically beneficent to family B because they will have more children and more genes transfered into the next generation than the A family. Person B can help his sisters to raise one extra child because he doesn't have his own and as such he can divert his resources and time into raising his siblings.

Homosexuality isn't limited to Homo sapiens species only. There exists a subspecies of chimpanzees in Africa called bonobo, their whole social structure is based on sex. To put it simply they use sex as a way of reducing social tension. When any bonobo individual is annoyed or irritated he can just "hump" on his/her's clan mate and reduce the tension. Gender is irrelevant.

Conclusion: Homosexuality is perfectly natural phenomenon.

One time I was in the coffee bar with a friend and on the couch next to our table one couple practically had sex. Ok they were dressed, but they were cuddling so intensively that we thought that they will engage in sexual intercourse in just a mater of minutes. I'm straight but that was repulsive.

Gay is OK!

That A/B scenario was about the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You can believe homosexuality is "a perfectly normal phenomenon" but please, let the sane people alone! Gay is not ok.

[b.k. barunt]

I have always maintained that left handed people should be rounded up and summarily executed. This is a defective gene at work, and not suitable for the master race. Morde Manubrium Meum.


Honibaz

[The Weird One]

[Natali]

For the sake of the sane people I hope your genes (jay_a2j) will be eliminated from the gene pool.
Have you ever seen "American beauty"? From your attitudes I really doubt your sincerity concerning your own sexual orientation. Do you have something to hide because I think that you get too aroused when discussing homosexuality.

[Stopper]

For the sake of the sane people I hope your genes (jay_a2j) will be eliminated from the gene pool.
Have you ever seen "American beauty"? From your attitudes I really doubt your sincerity concerning your own sexual orientation. Do you have something to hide because I think that you get too aroused when discussing homosexuality.

If you stick around for a while, you will see that explanations based on evolution for anything will probably not work on jay.

Now, if you could see your way to explaining homosexuality using Ron Paul somehow, you might convince him.

[Guiscard]

For the sake of the sane people I hope your genes (jay_a2j) will be eliminated from the gene pool.
Have you ever seen "American beauty"? From your attitudes I really doubt your sincerity concerning your own sexual orientation. Do you have something to hide because I think that you get too aroused when discussing homosexuality.

If you stick around for a while, you will see that explanations based on evolution for anything will probably not work on jay.

Now, if you could see your way to explaining homosexuality using Ron Paul somehow, you might convince him.

Or some shadowy new world order...

Or a non-existent plane

...Pretty much anything you can get on google video with a overly-dramatic voice over and bad editing.

[Stopper]

For the sake of the sane people I hope your genes (jay_a2j) will be eliminated from the gene pool.
Have you ever seen "American beauty"? From your attitudes I really doubt your sincerity concerning your own sexual orientation. Do you have something to hide because I think that you get too aroused when discussing homosexuality.

If you stick around for a while, you will see that explanations based on evolution for anything will probably not work on jay.

Now, if you could see your way to explaining homosexuality using Ron Paul somehow, you might convince him.

Or some shadowy new world order...

Or a non-existent plane

...Pretty much anything you can get on google video with a overly-dramatic voice over and bad editing.

But not GW Bush - that won't wash with him, or not any more, anyway...

[Guiscard]

But not GW Bush - that won't wash with him, or not any more, anyway...

No... he generally has fairly good editing.

[jay_a2j]

Flame Wars way.

[Guiscard]

Flame Wars way.

Which bit was a flame? I'm fairly sure it was all true...