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What actions should world leaders take to force the US government to take action?

Economic sanctions against its financial institutions
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No fly zone over Minnesota and other states
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how poor is Michelle DuBarry?

Postby 2dimes on Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:57 pm

They quit servicing water fountains quite a while ago because everyone wants bacteria laden water in plastic bottles.
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby mrswdk on Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:58 pm

At this point it might be worth noting that OT's favoured response to ongoing events in the US is for the international community to fund the armed overthrow of the US Government, as shown in this thread's poll.
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:54 am

In one 14 second video this is why I love the protest-riots. These Democrat beta bitches will still vote D but the slightly less committed cucks who take a stone through the window or 2x4 to the head won't.

https://www.reddit.com/r/trump/comments ... ty_stones/

Praying the protest-riots go to September.
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby mrswdk on Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:46 pm

A cartoon from 2017 that depicts a black man being arbitrarily and aggressively detained by a white officer, whose attempts to subdue the black man include handcuffing him and then kneeling on his neck:



It is chilling to think that this abuse has been perpetrated against black Americans so widely, and for so long, that it pervades all elements of American culture as the 'stereotype' of how a black person can expected to be treated by American police.
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby jimboston on Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:59 pm

mrswdk wrote:A cartoon from 2017 that depicts a black man being arbitrarily and aggressively detained by a white officer, whose attempts to subdue the black man include handcuffing him and then kneeling on his neck:



It is chilling to think that this abuse has been perpetrated against black Americans so widely, and for so long, that it pervades all elements of American culture as the 'stereotype' of how a black person can expected to be treated by American police.


You realize this isn’t a real commercial for a real product, right?
Oh, you don’t... you think this is and actual commercial and a real product!?
Ha Ha Ha!

This is a parody commercial created for the TV show Atlanta that was designed to make a political point.
https://slate.com/culture/2016/10/atlan ... video.html
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:15 pm

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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby The ram on Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:08 am

The chair of the New York health committee Mark D Levine tweeted that if there is a spike in Corona virus cases. Not to blame the protesters but to blame racism. He's a Democrat.
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby mrswdk on Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:36 pm

jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:A cartoon from 2017 that depicts a black man being arbitrarily and aggressively detained by a white officer, whose attempts to subdue the black man include handcuffing him and then kneeling on his neck:



It is chilling to think that this abuse has been perpetrated against black Americans so widely, and for so long, that it pervades all elements of American culture as the 'stereotype' of how a black person can expected to be treated by American police.


You realize this isn’t a real commercial for a real product, right?
Oh, you don’t... you think this is and actual commercial and a real product!?
Ha Ha Ha!


You really are dense aren't you
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby jimboston on Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:09 pm

mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:A cartoon from 2017 that depicts a black man being arbitrarily and aggressively detained by a white officer, whose attempts to subdue the black man include handcuffing him and then kneeling on his neck:



It is chilling to think that this abuse has been perpetrated against black Americans so widely, and for so long, that it pervades all elements of American culture as the 'stereotype' of how a black person can expected to be treated by American police.


You realize this isn’t a real commercial for a real product, right?
Oh, you don’t... you think this is and actual commercial and a real product!?
Ha Ha Ha!


You really are dense aren't you


Why should I not assume your post is serious and you’re clueless?

You post other shit that is ridiculous, so why would I think this is any different?

In fact, I think your reply here is simply ‘cover’ for that fact that you DID think this was a real cereal...
now you’re just trying to play it off cause you’ve been busted.

How or why should anyone think differently?
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby mrswdk on Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:56 pm

You think I thought a cartoon that predominately focuses on a black guy being beaten up by a racist police officer was an actual advert for children’s cereal?

In other news, a journalist trying to cover the American Spring has been shot in the face by security forces and left permanently blinded:

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 2d89f25dcc

This is just one of countless similar stories of the injuries state thugs have been inflicting on peaceful protestors.
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:22 pm

...freelance journalist...


IOW a person displaying no credentials from any news organization, who is embedded in a violent mob that has refused a legal Dispersal Order

One of these people considers themselves to be a journalist - you have 4 seconds to identify who it is!

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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby jimboston on Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:28 pm

mrswdk wrote:You think I thought a cartoon that predominately focuses on a black guy being beaten up by a racist police officer was an actual advert for children’s cereal?


Well that’s what you said... are you now saying we shouldn’t believe what you post?


mrswdk wrote:
In other news, a journalist trying to cover the American Spring has been shot in the face by security forces and left permanently blinded:

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 2d89f25dcc

This is just one of countless similar stories of the injuries state thugs have been inflicting on peaceful protestors.


A riot is essentially a war zone. A journalist in a war zone puts themselves at risk. There’s nothing else to add.
If you don’t want to put yourself at risk don’t join in.

I definitely feel worse for that child who they’re saying was maced. I think the parents are idiots.
If you’re in your car and caught up in a riot, just driving through...ok accident.
If you go out on the first day of protests and it spontaneously breaks into a riot... ok how would you know, unexpected.
After the first night of riots, if you’re bringing your child to one of these protests you’re an idiot.
You’re putting your kid at risk when you know there’s a fair chance it could break out into a riot.

The video you link doesn’t just show “peaceful protestors”... it shows police outnumbered, it shows fireworks and other things being thrown at police, it shows police cars getting stomped on by huge numbers of people. If you’re in a car and 50-100 people are stomping on it, what are you gonna do? You’re life is now in danger. I’d step on the gas and keep going.

Was it NYC where a guy was caught shooting at police? Not rubber bullets...real bullets.

The protestors have a right to their voice and I support daytime protests... but come 6 O’Clock, if you are a peaceful protestors and truly want your message heard, go home. Given what has been happening, people staying out in these mass groups past 6-7 are only looking for trouble.


There are peaceful protests and peaceful protestors...but enough is enough.
The tension is too high, and there are too many people looking to exploit the protests to “have fun” or just get some free stuff.
The curfews need to be enforced
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby jimboston on Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:32 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
...freelance journalist...


IOW a person displaying no credentials from any news organization, who is embedded in a violent mob that has refused a legal Dispersal Order

One of these people considers themselves to be a journalist - you have 4 seconds to identify who it is!

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Even if she were a credentialed Journalist...if you put yourself in the middle of a firefight you’re putting yourself at risk.

If you don’t wanna get hurt... go home... stay out of the middle of the action. There have been plenty of reporters and cameramen (and women) who have been able to safely report and stay off to the sides and out of the way.
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:23 pm

Australia moves to ban BLM protest - "all police powers available" will be used to crush any demonstration -

Police Commissioner Mick Fuller said after initially approving the protest, the only legal method for the state to stop the protest was Supreme Court action.

The matter will be heard at 3.30pm today.

He admitted people may still turn up to the event tomorrow, but they will be penalised if their behaviour is unlawful.

"If 10 people turn up in Pitt Street tomorrow, then we wish them well," he said.

"But if hundreds of people turn up, then they're in breach ... obviously all of the police powers available to us can be used."

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-amer ... 54zqo.html


I ❤︎ Australian riot police! My favorite move is when one of them drags a leftist along the ground while the other is administering baton strikes.

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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby The ram on Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:43 am

Why didn't the poisonous media big this extraordinarily similar case up?

https://youtu.be/_c-E_i8Q5G0
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:49 am

jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:You think I thought a cartoon that predominately focuses on a black guy being beaten up by a racist police officer was an actual advert for children’s cereal?


Well that’s what you said...


Ironic that the guy who likes to accuse me of twisting the meaning of his words is now just fabricating quotes and attributing them to me.

mrswdk wrote:
In other news, a journalist trying to cover the American Spring has been shot in the face by security forces and left permanently blinded:

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 2d89f25dcc

This is just one of countless similar stories of the injuries state thugs have been inflicting on peaceful protestors.


jim states that:
- He believes American cities are now military combat zones
- If a police officer shoots a journalist in the face then it's the journalist's fault for being there
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby jimboston on Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:18 am

mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:You think I thought a cartoon that predominately focuses on a black guy being beaten up by a racist police officer was an actual advert for children’s cereal?


Well that’s what you said...


Ironic that the guy who likes to accuse me of twisting the meaning of his words is now just fabricating quotes and attributing them to me.


Now you’re denying your post? Ok.
I mean it’d be easier and you’d get more respect just admitting you were wrong... rather than trying to deny a post we can all see.

mrswdk wrote:
jim states that:
- He believes American cities are now military combat zones
- If a police officer shoots a journalist in the face then it's the journalist's fault for being there


... and here is another case were you rewrite what I actually said... rather than just quote me.
You deny you do something and in the same post you actually do what you just denied doing.

Classic!

In case you need clarification...

INTENTIONAL MISQUOTE #1:
I said that “riots are essentially war zones”... I did not say “American cities are now military combat zones”.
Big difference.
Your statement suggests that it’s ‘all cities / all the time’. I clearly point out that it’s the riot itself that’s “essentially” a war zone.
The riots are not constant, nor are they everywhere.
You take a comment about a VERY specific situation and expand it to intentionally manipulate my point.

INTENTIONAL MISQUOTE #2
My quote is “A journalist in a war zone puts themselves at risk.”
You quote me as suggesting that “If a police officer shoots a journalist in the face then it's the journalist's fault for being there”.
Big difference.
You are implying that I am happy the person was injured or that I feel it’s ok for the police to shoot/target journalists.
I’m saying that the person is inserting themselves in the middle of a firefight. Period.
They’re putting themselves in a risky situation. A situation where BOTH SIDES are throwing and shooting things at eachother.

Frankly we don’t even know if this woman was hit by a police rubber bullet.
It’s also possible she was hit by some other projectile... thrown or shot by a rioter.
Rioters have been shooting fireworks.
Rioters have been throwing rocks and bricks.
Some rioters have been shooting guns.

Do I think it’s possible she was hit by a police rubber bullet... yes.
Do I think it’s likely she was hit by a police rubber bullet... yes.
Do I think she was “targeted” by police... no.
I think the police are greatly outnumbered by people throwing stuff at them, breaking private property, and threatening their lives.
In this situation the use a variety of tools to disperse the crowds... one tool being rubber bullets.
She inserted herself in the middle... she’s calling herself a journalist but she’s obviously in the front lines acting like all the other rioters.
Real media are not involving themselves in the riots while concurrently reporting on the unrest.
They are standing off to the side and not standing in the thick of things.
Even if they were... in the chaos of a riot, shit happens.

I will ask again that you please refrain from intentionally misquoting and misinterpreting my points...
but I know and expect you will continue to act like the Troll you are.
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:39 am

jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:You think I thought a cartoon that predominately focuses on a black guy being beaten up by a racist police officer was an actual advert for children’s cereal?


Well that’s what you said...


Ironic that the guy who likes to accuse me of twisting the meaning of his words is now just fabricating quotes and attributing them to me.


Now you’re denying your post? Ok.


Point to the part of my post where I said, implied, insinuated, hinted, intimated, suggested etc etc that I thought it was a real advert. Quote it, colour it in red, whatever you want. I'll give you some time.

While we wait for you to do that, we'll all just bask in the fact you read a story about a journalist being shot in the face by riot police and blamed the incident on the journalist.
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby jimboston on Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:44 am

INTENTIONAL MISQUOTE #1:
I said that “riots are essentially war zones”... I did not say “American cities are now military combat zones”.
Big difference.
Your statement suggests that it’s ‘all cities / all the time’. I clearly point out that it’s the riot itself that’s “essentially” a war zone.
The riots are not constant, nor are they everywhere.
You take a comment about a VERY specific situation and expand it to intentionally manipulate my point.

INTENTIONAL MISQUOTE #2
My quote is “A journalist in a war zone puts themselves at risk.”
You quote me as suggesting that “If a police officer shoots a journalist in the face then it's the journalist's fault for being there”.
Big difference.
You are implying that I am happy the person was injured or that I feel it’s ok for the police to shoot/target journalists.
I’m saying that the person is inserting themselves in the middle of a firefight. Period.
They’re putting themselves in a risky situation. A situation where BOTH SIDES are throwing and shooting things at eachother.

Frankly we don’t even know if this woman was hit by a police rubber bullet.
It’s also possible she was hit by some other projectile... thrown or shot by a rioter.
Rioters have been shooting fireworks.
Rioters have been throwing rocks and bricks.
Some rioters have been shooting guns.

Do I think it’s possible she was hit by a police rubber bullet... yes.
Do I think it’s likely she was hit by a police rubber bullet... yes.
Do I think she was “targeted” by police... no.
I think the police are greatly outnumbered by people throwing stuff at them, breaking private property, and threatening their lives.
In this situation the use a variety of tools to disperse the crowds... one tool being rubber bullets.
She inserted herself in the middle... she’s calling herself a journalist but she’s obviously in the front lines acting like all the other rioters.
Real media are not involving themselves in the riots while concurrently reporting on the unrest.
They are standing off to the side and not standing in the thick of things.
Even if they were... in the chaos of a riot, shit happens.

I will ask again that you please refrain from intentionally misquoting and misinterpreting my points...
but I know and expect you will continue to act like the Troll you are.[/quote]
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:47 am

IOW jim has now realised that I never said I thought the cartoon was an actual cereal advert and would like to refocus the conversation somewhere a little less embarrassing for him.
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby jimboston on Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:49 am

jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:A cartoon from 2017 that depicts a black man being arbitrarily and aggressively detained by a white officer, whose attempts to subdue the black man include handcuffing him and then kneeling on his neck:



It is chilling to think that this abuse has been perpetrated against black Americans so widely, and for so long, that it pervades all elements of American culture as the 'stereotype' of how a black person can expected to be treated by American police.


You realize this isn’t a real commercial for a real product, right?
Oh, you don’t... you think this is and actual commercial and a real product!?
Ha Ha Ha!

This is a parody commercial created for the TV show Atlanta that was designed to make a political point.
https://slate.com/culture/2016/10/atlan ... video.html


Bold and in Red.

You indicate this as a cartoon... at no point do you point out it’s a parody.

Your intentional omission of the fact that it’s a parody is where you attempt to insert your political agenda into the situation.

So either you think it’s a real advert... or you are intentionally misleading people by excluding that info.
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby jimboston on Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:51 am

mrswdk wrote:IOW jim has now realised that I never said I thought the cartoon was an actual cereal advert and would like to refocus the conversation somewhere a little less embarrassing for him.


I thought you said you’d give me some time?

Impatient... typical of people your age.
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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:02 am

jimboston wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:A cartoon from 2017 that depicts a black man being arbitrarily and aggressively detained by a white officer, whose attempts to subdue the black man include handcuffing him and then kneeling on his neck:



It is chilling to think that this abuse has been perpetrated against black Americans so widely, and for so long, that it pervades all elements of American culture as the 'stereotype' of how a black person can expected to be treated by American police.


You realize this isn’t a real commercial for a real product, right?
Oh, you don’t... you think this is and actual commercial and a real product!?
Ha Ha Ha!

This is a parody commercial created for the TV show Atlanta that was designed to make a political point.
https://slate.com/culture/2016/10/atlan ... video.html


Bold and in Red.

You indicate this as a cartoon... at no point do you point out it’s a parody.


I would have thought that a cartoon professing to be a children's cereal advert and yet mostly consisting of a black man being beaten up arbitrarily by a police officer in front of a group of horrified children was fairly self-evidently satire. If it would help you then I am happy to accompany all future posts and videos with warning labels highlighting the intended tone and fiction/satire/non-fiction status of all content.

The point I had thought I was fairly clearly making but which apparently flew higher over your head than an Airbus* was that the satire is focusing on a) racist police brutality against black people in general and b) police kneeling on people's necks in particular. The fact that the cartoon's creators chose to satirise both of those phenomena shows that both phenomena must be pretty widespread; people don't satirize events that 95% of their audience won't have heard of.


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Re: Yet another racist killing by US police

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:12 pm

You two should go hug it out. This personal sniping detracts from any point that either of you might actually be trying to make.
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