Conquer Club, Help Me!

[unriggable]

My Man is on a leash, and he likes it. He wants me to keep him in line.

What the f*ck is wrong with you for doing that and him for liking it?

[Beastly]

Uhmm, first of all, WHY would I want to spend time with another woman? Because, ohh, I dunno, they're kool and we get along? You know you should read other posts? Alot of people have stated their opinions about being friends with the opposite sex. I think it's fine.

Of course your man is on a leash. As I've said before, beastiality is wrong. OOPS, I mean interspecies relationship... But hey, whatever floats your boat.

And so far s.xkitten hasn't been a bother. She's been less of a bother than other people have.

But seriously, I apologize for all the jokes in the past as well as the ones I will make in the future. As long as you keep quarreling with others for no reason, I'll continue. =D

You obviously didn't read all the shit that little bitch was writing to me.

go back and start reading from where I posted.

And by the way I have been on this site within a month of it's start, and the Beastiality name is not new. It is old worn out, and it's called a flame.

there is a place called flame wars where if you have a problem and want to put somebody down you can go there.

NOT HERE!

I know you are new here, and that is why I am telling you this. If you can't contain yourself when angered you shouldn't post here.

Go to flame wars, I dare you! go and put me down there, I will whip you into being my bitch, and I will show what it means to be owned fool!

My Man is on a leash, and he likes it. He wants me to keep him in line.

What the f*ck is wrong with you for doing that and him for liking it?

What is wrong with a man wanting to please his woman, and keeping her happy and having a healthy, respectful relationship?

[Skoffin]

No, I am not saying that...

I am saying AGAIN! loud and clear, men in a committed relationship have no business going out and spending time with another woman...

Well, it sounds like what you're saying. Perhaps it's the words you're using. Such as 'going out' is percieved by some as another word for date, whereas to me 'going out' is simpy anything involving leaving the house for a while. Such as going shopping or simply going to walk in the park.

It is hard on a relationship, because it is always in question whether,

A. The woman is truly trust worthy.

B. Is the man gonna get a woodie and not be able to stop her advances.

C. Why would a man want to spend time with another woman? Instead of the one he has.

I said it causes STRESS on a relationship.

It likely would cause some paranoia in the other person, but you can't keep a eye on all of your partner's doings. You can't build trust that way, and if you're constantly worrying should you really be in the relationship anyway? I do not think it is right to tell someone they cannot be friends with another person who has not done anything wrong simply because you worry.

and doing it secretly shows there is defiantly a problem.

That I agree upon

going bowling with a team is totally different than going bowling one on one. ONE on ONE becomes a date.

Who defines the term 'date'? I cannot go to a movie with a male friend without it being termed a date? Despite having no intentions as such?

[unriggable]

My Man is on a leash, and he likes it. He wants me to keep him in line.

What the f*ck is wrong with you for doing that and him for liking it?

What is wrong with a man wanting to please his woman, and keeping her happy and having a healthy, respectful relationship?

It shouldn't take supervision for a man to please his woman. That's not a healthy relationship, that's sadomasochism.

[unriggable]

No, I am not saying that...

I am saying AGAIN! loud and clear, men in a committed relationship have no business going out and spending time with another woman...

Why would you ever want to have a relationship if it means not being able to visit woman friends anymore?

[strike wolf]

Beastly may I ask if your husband expects you to avoid talking to other guys?

[hecter]

By your logic Beastly, if you go somewhere with only ONE person, ever, it's a date. I could go downtown with my best friend, that's not a date. Why does it matter what gender my friend is? And guess what Beastly: no man can just happen to be unable to stop a womans advances. If a man gives you the reason why he slept with a woman was because he was unable to stop her, that's total bullshit. At any point he could have just upped and left, or made a conscious decision to stay and/or sleep with the woman. If that's the case, he's an asshole that can't be trusted. But the solution to that problem is NOT cutting off his contact from women, but rather you finding a guy that's NOT a jackass.

[Beastly]

I don't care how you boys want to perceive and twist things.

I as a attractive woman, know perfectly well how to get what I want, IF I WANT to seduce a man who is taken, I could do it. Especially if I know he is attracted to me. YOU men don't really get it! some women do this for a thrill, they are home wreckers! They will pretend to be your good friend, and then seduce you. IF you think you can spend quality time with other women, ONE on ONE, and have a girlfriend also, then that's what you believe.

However, I don't agree with it. Justify it all you want. Say it's ok all you want. I think it's disrespectful, and thank god, I don't have a man that even has a desire to seek out attention from another woman. If you have a girlfriend, it is also different than living with someone and being married.

My husband knows that I expect him not to go out with other women and he doesn't have a problem with it.

IF you have a girlfriend or whatever and she doesn't have a problem with it, then you wouldn't be asking for advice on what to do.

When you make a commitment to someone with the understanding that you see them exclusively, then you don't seek out other women for companionship.

I personally already experienced having a husband who kept company with one of my so called friends. It turned out sour, and I learned that I don't want a man like that.

I don't make my husband do anything. He knows what I prefer, and he knows that if he wants me in his life, he will be exclusive with me, and not with other women.

It's his choice. I don't freak on him, The lines are drawn cut and clear. And in return I don't seek out attention from other men. I could be with anybody I want. It's all about choice. IF you find a woman who doesn't care, then she chooses whatever happens.

[hecter]

When you make a commitment to someone with the understanding that you see them exclusively, then you don't seek out other women for companionship.

But we're NOT seeking out other women for companionship, we'd just be looking for friends regardless of gender! I don't see why you think a man can't have friends of the opposite sex. It's downright stupid. I have many friends that are girls and there is NO, NONE, ZIP, ZILCH sexual tension between us. We're purely friends, and no fucking way would I have sex with them. It would just be too... creepy.

[Beastly]

Being friends means having companionship to me.

And not to be rude hecter, but you haven't had a sexual exclusive livin relationship, so you couldn't possibly empathize the situation.

When you live with each other, you put time and money into your relationship, when a third party enters, it puts a strain on a relationship.

My husband talks to my girlfriends on the phone, calls them sweety and hun. But he certainly doesn't make plans to go on outings with her.

That is for me, he makes plans and goes on outing with his man friends.

edit for hecter!

[hecter]

Being friends means having companionship to me.

You missed the point. I was trying to get at the fact that a guy can have a friend, or companion, if you will, of any gender and there not be any sexual tension.

[Skoffin]

So now if a girl is okay with a boyfriend having female friends then it's partly her fault if she gets cheated on?
I am not condoning cheating, I am trying to say that it is possible for two people of the opposite gender to 'just be friends'. I'm not really commenting on Kal's circumstances here, this is a generalisation. Seeking out other woman for 'a little more' is wrong, just happening to become friends with someone is not. I have male friends, and now that I'm in a relationship suddenly hanging out with them in cheating? I know woman can be vindictive, but I like to believe that my boyfriend is better then that and not stupid enough to fall for those kind of games.
This notion that you cannot be friends with the opposite gender without it being cheating is rediculous.

Now I asked you my questions politely, I would of appreciated it if you had done the same.

[Beastly]

Surely you won't undermine my knowledge of that?

I have man friends but they are my husbands friends and I don't spend ALONE time with them. NO need to. IF i need company of a man, I have it with the my husband. Not that I wouldn't desire to hang out with that Fireman and the mail man. It's just I respect my husband enough to not complicate our relationship.

[hecter]

When you live with each other, you put time and money into your relationship, when a third party enters, it puts a strain on a relationship.

If your relationship can't survive the "strain" of a new friend, then it wasn't a very stable relationship to begin with, and these people definitely should not be living together.

[Beastly]

Actually I have a very STRONG relationship, and that is because my husband is not going behind my back to meet women on the internet.

That was the whole situation, and you all seem to think it is ok.

I don't agree, and to answer strike wolf.

I can talk to all the men I want! I just don't make plans to secretly meet with them.

[hecter]

Actually I have a very STRONG relationship, and that is because my husband is not going behind my back to meet women on the internet.

That was the whole situation, and you all seem to think it is ok.

I don't agree, and to answer strike wolf.

I can talk to all the men I want! I just don't make plans to secretly meet with them.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS GUYS SITUATION!!! We're talking about in general! You're talking about your husband making plans to see a woman, whether or not you know. Not sneaking out behind your back! f*ck...

[Beastly]

So now if a girl is okay with a boyfriend having female friends then it's partly her fault if she gets cheated on?

This notion that you cannot be friends with the opposite gender without it being cheating is rediculous.

Now I asked you my questions politely, I would of appreciated it if you had done the same.

And to answer your question Scoff, yes, if a woman is going to say YOU can have companionship and spend time alone with other women, I do believe it is her fault. Maybe I am wrong, but I aloud one man to do that, and I feel like if I would have said, If you want to be with me, I expect you not to seek out other women, he may have not cheated. So I got what I had coming to me, unknowingly! And she was a ugly ho!

It wasn't the looks or the companionship in my situation.. IT was that we were together for along time, and he wanted some excitement and some different pussy! He knew he wasn't suppose to f*ck her! We were married. However he became weak and was seduced. And I allowed it.
So in a way yes, if a woman is going to allow her man to be with other women intimately, and he cheats, well she made it easy for him....

It is not all my fault, but I could have made it harder.

It's just like if your kids want to smoke cigs.. Are you gonna allow it, or are you gonna make it hard for them. Surely they will smoke with or with out your permission, but the difference in your actions can change the outcome.

[Skoffin]

Actually I have a very STRONG relationship, and that is because my husband is not going behind my back to meet women on the internet.

That was the whole situation, and you all seem to think it is ok.

I don't agree, and to answer strike wolf.

I can talk to all the men I want! I just don't make plans to secretly meet with them.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS GUYS SITUATION!!! We're talking about in general! You're talking about your husband making plans to see a woman, whether or not you know. Not sneaking out behind your back! f*ck...

Perhaps we should all turn to the same page before continuing the discussion.

[Beastly]

Actually I have a very STRONG relationship, and that is because my husband is not going behind my back to meet women on the internet.

That was the whole situation, and you all seem to think it is ok.

I don't agree, and to answer strike wolf.

I can talk to all the men I want! I just don't make plans to secretly meet with them.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS GUYS SITUATION!!! We're talking about in general! You're talking about your husband making plans to see a woman, whether or not you know. Not sneaking out behind your back! f*ck...

Funny I thought this whole thread was about THIS GUYS SITUATION...that's what i was responding to.

And isn't his situation that he met a girl online then went to see her without her current girlfriend knowing?

[Skoffin]

It sounds to me that you are asserting that intimacy and friendship are the same thing, how it it so?

[Skoffin]

Actually I have a very STRONG relationship, and that is because my husband is not going behind my back to meet women on the internet.

That was the whole situation, and you all seem to think it is ok.

I don't agree, and to answer strike wolf.

I can talk to all the men I want! I just don't make plans to secretly meet with them.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS GUYS SITUATION!!! We're talking about in general! You're talking about your husband making plans to see a woman, whether or not you know. Not sneaking out behind your back! f*ck...

Funny I thought this whole thread was about THIS GUYS SITUATION...that's what i was responding to.

And isn't his situation that he met a girl online then went to see her without her current girlfriend knowing?

Apparently the topic changed before I even came in. But yes we were not referring to this guy's particular circumstances, this is probably what stemmed all the confusion.

[ParadiceCity9]

lmao...you guys played video games when you first met.

[Beastly]

You can have intimacy without sex or any sexual contact. maybe you should google intimacy.

[Skoffin]

I am aware of that, I know what it means. But just a regular friendship is not exactly 'intimacy' now is it? Why is it if you had exactly the same kind of friendship with one person of the same sex is okay but if you had the same friendship with a person of the opposite gender suddenly it is not?

[DiM]

me answering this guy's dillemma 8-10 years ago: vodka, rock and a nice threesome.

me answering this guy's dillemma now: follow your heart.

yeah i know marriage can change a guy a lot. god i miss the wild parties the vodka and the beautiful strangers.