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Re: Israel

Postby Pack Rat on Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:41 pm

Hey, it's been over two thousand years since Jesus went around making wine from water, walking on water and turning the tables over on the Republican money exchangers...when in the hell will we see the second coming?
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Re: Israel

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Re: Israel

Postby Pack Rat on Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:45 am

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Saw them in Chicago in 75.


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Re: Israel

Postby kennyp72 on Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:13 am

HitRed wrote:Rubblization - reducing existing concrete into rubble


Is that a term from the bible.
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Re: Israel

Postby kennyp72 on Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:13 am

jusplay4fun wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Free the Hostages from October 7.


End the occupation from 1948.


Are you saying that the Jews do not deserve a place, a land, a country, to call their own?

The Jews have been given land, nearly all in a desert, and turned it into an oasis and a modern country. What did the Arab and Muslim population do with most of the land before the Jews? Not much.

What is the government in Israel now and then? A democracy. What about the Muslim and Bedouin and Arab populations? A kingdom and a dictatorship with NO free elections in Gaza since 2007. (I have discussed Gaza single election for Hamas already) in this thread.


What other religion has a country of its own?
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Re: Israel

Postby HitRed on Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:45 am

kennyp72 wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Free the Hostages from October 7.


End the occupation from 1948.


Are you saying that the Jews do not deserve a place, a land, a country, to call their own?

The Jews have been given land, nearly all in a desert, and turned it into an oasis and a modern country. What did the Arab and Muslim population do with most of the land before the Jews? Not much.

What is the government in Israel now and then? A democracy. What about the Muslim and Bedouin and Arab populations? A kingdom and a dictatorship with NO free elections in Gaza since 2007. (I have discussed Gaza single election for Hamas already) in this thread.


What other religion has a country of its own?

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Re: Israel

Postby Pack Rat on Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:11 am

Let's not forget their love for children...and protecting the men who loves those children.





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Re: Israel

Postby kennyp72 on Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:02 am

HitRed wrote:
kennyp72 wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Free the Hostages from October 7.


End the occupation from 1948.


Are you saying that the Jews do not deserve a place, a land, a country, to call their own?

The Jews have been given land, nearly all in a desert, and turned it into an oasis and a modern country. What did the Arab and Muslim population do with most of the land before the Jews? Not much.

What is the government in Israel now and then? A democracy. What about the Muslim and Bedouin and Arab populations? A kingdom and a dictatorship with NO free elections in Gaza since 2007. (I have discussed Gaza single election for Hamas already) in this thread.


What other religion has a country of its own?

Catholic
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Catholicism is merely a doctrine of Christianity, I thought you might have known this.

Given it is Roman Catholicism you might expect an enclave in Rome? I don't imagine The Orange Order have residences there...

It's a bit like the City Of London is for capitalists.

So I ask again.

What other religion has a country of its own? :D
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Re: Israel

Postby kennyp72 on Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:04 am

Pack Rat wrote:Let's not forget their love for children...and protecting the men who loves those children.





You gotta love the bait, oooops I mean children's toys in the background.


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Re: Israel

Postby HitRed on Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:42 am

Your question was
What other religion has a country of its own?

now you’re changing it to homeland.
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Re: Israel

Postby kennyp72 on Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:52 am

HitRed wrote:Your question was
What other religion has a country of its own?

now you’re changing it to homeland.


What other religion has a country of its own?
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Re: Israel

Postby HitRed on Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:01 am

kennyp72 wrote:
HitRed wrote:Your question was
What other religion has a country of its own?

now you’re changing it to homeland.


What other religion has a country of its own?


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Re: Israel

Postby Pack Rat on Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:06 am

HitRed wrote:
kennyp72 wrote:
HitRed wrote:Your question was
What other religion has a country of its own?

now you’re changing it to homeland.


What other religion has a country of its own?


Catholic
Vatican City is a landlocked, independent, and enclaved country that is ruled by the Pope and the Holy See. It has a small area, population, and economy, but it is rich in religious and cultural heritage.


I heard their childcare centers is a desirable place for priests to work at.
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Re: Israel

Postby 2dimes on Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:15 am

kennyp72 wrote:
What other religion has a country of its own?


I presume you are looking for a case where people have been displaced for not being true followers. One might suggest Islam has a few countries like that. Pakistan for example. I suspect there were, some people who had to move from homes their families had owned for generations, when that territory formalized as a country.
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Re: Israel

Postby Pack Rat on Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:31 am

2dimes wrote:
kennyp72 wrote:
What other religion has a country of its own?


I presume you are looking for a case where people have been displaced for not being true followers. One might suggest Islam has a few countries like that. Pakistan for example. I suspect there were, some people who had to move from homes their families had owned for generations, when that territory formalized as a country.


Saudi Arabia
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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:32 am

Strictly speaking no one was kicked out of India or Pakistan for being the wrong religion, they left as refugees due to the violence that was triggered by the partition. If partition had been handled differently it's entirely possible that Pakistan and India would have retained much larger Hindu/Muslim populations.

In some ways Pakistan wanting to be separate is similar to how Singapore carved itself out of Malaysia. That was done to create somewhere that ethnic Chinese people could feel safe, not to create a Chinese ethnostate.
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Re: Israel

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:11 pm

kennyp72 wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Free the Hostages from October 7.


End the occupation from 1948.


Are you saying that the Jews do not deserve a place, a land, a country, to call their own?

The Jews have been given land, nearly all in a desert, and turned it into an oasis and a modern country. What did the Arab and Muslim population do with most of the land before the Jews? Not much.

What is the government in Israel now and then? A democracy. What about the Muslim and Bedouin and Arab populations? A kingdom and a dictatorship with NO free elections in Gaza since 2007. (I have discussed Gaza single election for Hamas already) in this thread.


What other religion has a country of its own?


Tons of them.

Saudi Arabia is a Sunni Muslim theocracy.
Iran is a Shiite Muslim theocracy.
Several other Arab countries, like Quatar and Yemen, are near-theocracies.
Several non-Arab countries are officially Islamic also, such as Pakistan and Malaysia.
(Altogether, there are 27 nations that officially proclaim themselves "Islamic". Twenty-seven!)
Bhutan, Cambodia, and Laos are all Buddhist nations.
A number of European nations have official churches even if their religion is not enforced -- Lutheranism in Denmark and Sweden, Anglicanism in England.
And of course the Vatican, as HR noted.
Some nations, such as Zambia, officially declare themselves to be "Christian" without specifying which Christian sect they adhere to.
Altogether, something like 50 nations are officially consecrated to a specific religion.
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Re: Israel

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:55 pm

We should give the Zoroastrians a small country, maybe inside of what is now Palestine? I can't see anyone objecting to this
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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:42 pm

The genocide has passed a gruesome milestone today, with over 40,000 Gazans now confirmed killed by Israel's assault (numbers excluding the tens of thousands missing presumed dead).

Today Israel has killed at least 50 people in airstrikes on refugee camps, schools and houses, with children burned to death and so-called 'safe zones' attacked with tank fire:

http://www.rte.ie/news/world/2024/0821/ ... rael-gaza/
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Re: Israel

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:05 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
kennyp72 wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Free the Hostages from October 7.


End the occupation from 1948.


Are you saying that the Jews do not deserve a place, a land, a country, to call their own?

The Jews have been given land, nearly all in a desert, and turned it into an oasis and a modern country. What did the Arab and Muslim population do with most of the land before the Jews? Not much.

What is the government in Israel now and then? A democracy. What about the Muslim and Bedouin and Arab populations? A kingdom and a dictatorship with NO free elections in Gaza since 2007. (I have discussed Gaza single election for Hamas already) in this thread.


What other religion has a country of its own?


Tons of them.

Saudi Arabia is a Sunni Muslim theocracy.
Iran is a Shiite Muslim theocracy.
Several other Arab countries, like Quatar and Yemen, are near-theocracies.
Several non-Arab countries are officially Islamic also, such as Pakistan and Malaysia.
(Altogether, there are 27 nations that officially proclaim themselves "Islamic". Twenty-seven!)
Bhutan, Cambodia, and Laos are all Buddhist nations.
A number of European nations have official churches even if their religion is not enforced -- Lutheranism in Denmark and Sweden, Anglicanism in England.
And of course the Vatican, as HR noted.
Some nations, such as Zambia, officially declare themselves to be "Christian" without specifying which Christian sect they adhere to.
Altogether, something like 50 nations are officially consecrated to a specific religion.



The difference, of course, is that in each of these modern cases the state religion was declared recognizing the reality of what already existed. The modern Cambodian state declared itself a Buddhist kingdom at a time when 95% of its population was, in fact, Buddhist.

It didn't declare itself a Buddhist kingdom when 95% of its population was Lutheran and then import a ton of wealthy Buddhists from California and New York to displace the Lutherans.
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Re: Israel

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:27 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
kennyp72 wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Free the Hostages from October 7.


End the occupation from 1948.


Are you saying that the Jews do not deserve a place, a land, a country, to call their own?

The Jews have been given land, nearly all in a desert, and turned it into an oasis and a modern country. What did the Arab and Muslim population do with most of the land before the Jews? Not much.

What is the government in Israel now and then? A democracy. What about the Muslim and Bedouin and Arab populations? A kingdom and a dictatorship with NO free elections in Gaza since 2007. (I have discussed Gaza single election for Hamas already) in this thread.


What other religion has a country of its own?


Tons of them.

Saudi Arabia is a Sunni Muslim theocracy.
Iran is a Shiite Muslim theocracy.
Several other Arab countries, like Quatar and Yemen, are near-theocracies.
Several non-Arab countries are officially Islamic also, such as Pakistan and Malaysia.
(Altogether, there are 27 nations that officially proclaim themselves "Islamic". Twenty-seven!)
Bhutan, Cambodia, and Laos are all Buddhist nations.
A number of European nations have official churches even if their religion is not enforced -- Lutheranism in Denmark and Sweden, Anglicanism in England.
And of course the Vatican, as HR noted.
Some nations, such as Zambia, officially declare themselves to be "Christian" without specifying which Christian sect they adhere to.
Altogether, something like 50 nations are officially consecrated to a specific religion.



The difference, of course, is that in each of these modern cases the state religion was declared recognizing the reality of what already existed. The modern Cambodian state declared itself a Buddhist kingdom at a time when 95% of its population was, in fact, Buddhist.

It didn't declare itself a Buddhist kingdom when 95% of its population was Lutheran and then import a ton of wealthy Buddhists from California and New York to displace the Lutherans.

The history of Cambodia is muddled due to the destruction of records by successive invaders. It does seem from what I've read, however, that the kings of Cambodia became Buddhist and proclaimed Buddhist kingdoms while most of the population was still Hindu. Furthermore, the decline of the Hindu majority was definitely accelerated by heavy (and quite intentional) immigration from Buddhist Vietnam during the 18th and 19th centuries, and by the infiltration of colonial Christian missionaries.

In brief, you're wrong.
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Re: Israel

Postby HitRed on Thu Aug 22, 2024 3:44 pm

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Re: Israel

Postby bigtoughralf on Thu Aug 29, 2024 6:44 pm

The Irish government has banned any Israeli companies from winning Irish defense or military contracts:

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024 ... -tanaiste/

Meanwhile the European Union is preparing to sanction two senior Israeli government ministers over genocidal comments they've made about Palestinians since the start of the invasion.

No one likes Israel and no one supports Israel, except a handful of cuckolded US politicians.
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