Who's the smartest member in the Clubhouse?

[misterman10]

Just to put an end to all this... who really cares who is the smartest person in the clubhouse?

I know I don't. Posts on an online forum means absolutely nothing, so why judge someone on them? It's ridiculous, not to mention pointless.

...And now I forgot what my main point was going to be

That you don't have to "act" like an idiot?

wrong! that was not my point

YA! BEing an idiot is fun.

I was saying he wasn't acting like an idiot.

dont worry, I know your kidding

[muy_thaiguy]

Just to put an end to all this... who really cares who is the smartest person in the clubhouse?

I know I don't. Posts on an online forum means absolutely nothing, so why judge someone on them? It's ridiculous, not to mention pointless.

...And now I forgot what my main point was going to be

That you don't have to "act" like an idiot?

wrong! that was not my point

YA! BEing an idiot is fun.

I was saying he wasn't acting like an idiot.

dont worry, I know your kidding

Uhhh....

[misterman10]

Just to put an end to all this... who really cares who is the smartest person in the clubhouse?

I know I don't. Posts on an online forum means absolutely nothing, so why judge someone on them? It's ridiculous, not to mention pointless.

...And now I forgot what my main point was going to be

That you don't have to "act" like an idiot?

wrong! that was not my point

YA! BEing an idiot is fun.

I was saying he wasn't acting like an idiot.

dont worry, I know your kidding

Uhhh....

good

[High Guard]

Stay on topic, I don't want to read through 50 pages of spam to count up all the votes.

[OnlyAmbrose]

Where else would anyone give a damn what a 17 year old thinks on such matters?

Yahoo!Answers? Joking, but there are some pretty interesting groups in Myspace that you can join and discuss certain topics.

Myspace is still the internet, and don't even get me started on myspace Debating on the internet is one thing but socializing?! Gah, well that's another thread I guess

Anyways, fact is adults in real life don't care what I've got to say on the topics of religion and politics. I've tried to contact several protestant ministers via email to arrange appointments for discussions, and all I got in reply was basically emails brushing me off by asking vague questions about my "relationship with God" and how I'm too young to devote attention to such things.

But on the internet there seem to be plenty of people who don't mind my age, so I'm afraid this is where I have to take my debates. Apologies.

[muy_thaiguy]

No prob, just that I'm one of the younger members in some of those groups, and people on them tend to listen, and debate with you (at least in the Ancient History group). I find it to be quite interesting.

[Avron]

Where else would anyone give a damn what a 17 year old thinks on such matters?

Yahoo!Answers? Joking, but there are some pretty interesting groups in Myspace that you can join and discuss certain topics.

Myspace is still the internet, and don't even get me started on myspace Debating on the internet is one thing but socializing?! Gah, well that's another thread I guess

Anyways, fact is adults in real life don't care what I've got to say on the topics of religion and politics. I've tried to contact several protestant ministers via email to arrange appointments for discussions, and all I got in reply was basically emails brushing me off by asking vague questions about my "relationship with God" and how I'm too young to devote attention to such things.

But on the internet there seem to be plenty of people who don't mind my age, so I'm afraid this is where I have to take my debates. Apologies.

To bad the opinions presented never go anywhere but to the person you present them to. If you can't find someone to debate with, hold an open public debate. I once Hijacked an English class for 4 hours debating. We started during are second period rapped up about 40 minutes away from the end of school. If you just openly present your self in a respectable and approachable manner, say in a discussion with a person of education or "high" standing you can still have a great debate regardless of your age. But this is all off topic and we need to stop Hijacking High Guard's thread.

My vote goes for VT. May be someone biased but I have my reasons.

[Norse]

The funny thing about this is that this is the first serious post I think I've ever seen Dancing Mustard make

You're kidding, right?

I've seen DM when he's serious, and you don't want to be on the recieving end of it either.

Where else would anyone give a damn what a 17 year old thinks on such matters?

If you do not have peers that you are able to discuss these things with, then I pity you. I remember when I was 17, I could talk about some deep philisophical nonsense with them. There was a time (age 14- 19) when I truely believed in a certain philosophy. It consumed me and every waking thought of mine. I became obsessed with it and every encounter I made on a daily basis I would liken to my philosphy and think about how it fitted in with my idea's.

Then I grew up.

You will find that with about 90% of people, these natural "explorative" aspets to ones personality will flush away, leaving you with set goals, responsibilities and focuses.

Then, the other 10% will take these idea's to the next level, becomming somewhat of an extremist, and will spend their time spewing out propoganda, scare-mongering vulnerable people and generally telling everybody that they're wrong (I can think of a few examples on CC of this, no names OFC).

The point to my post? well none really, life is what you make of it, and I among others would prefer to channel our gifted intellect into something that we can enjoy, including pissing people off.

[Dancing Mustard]

So . . . Dancing Mustard gets serious when his intellect is insulted . . . interesting.

No, but I do get mildly irked when I hear a pompous teenager dismissing everybody who he doesn't regard as part of the 'debating posse' as acting like 'idiots' simply because they don't want to use the forum for the same purpose that he does.
Also, I have a gigantic ego which I take extremely seriously, especially when people I regard as intelligent are the target of petty aspersions on the internet...

Before we begin this, can I remind everybody that the reason I'm about to rip it out of Ambrose is not because I didn't get nominated enough; it's because he dismissed my list of highly-intelligent-non-debaters as 'idiots', because apparently he's a pompous blinkered ass who's been seasoned with a pinch of arrogance and a dash of illogicality.

Righto, we've got some hollow idols to smash, let's get started pronto:

The funny thing about this is that this is the first serious post I think I've ever seen Dancing Mustard make

Well huzzah, I'm so glad that I'm chatting to somebody who appears to be juding me based on reading only a small fraction of my posts (because I've been serious on several previous occassions). It's so nice to hear somebody presuming to judge others (those on my list) as 'idiots' when they have clearly only observed a fraction of their online behaivour.

Anywho, I'll bite.

How gracious of you. I can almost smell the disdain from here. Nice to know I'm chatting to a man with an open mind as to the merits of forum posters with whom he has had only fleeting previous interaction.

No, I don't think it takes an amazing amount of intelligence to be funny.

I'm fairly certain that's a stupid thing to say; humour requires intelligence either for rapidly formulating an amusing reply on the spur of the moment, or in order to compose a barb in a previously unthought of way. Even the relatively simple task of identifying a subject as having the potential for comedy is an enterprise requiring intelligence.
Who knows, maybe you don't think 'funnies' require intelligence and you have a good reason for it. I'm imagining you're just not old enough to understand anything that isn't slapstick as being funny.

If we were to start a "funniest member in the clubhouse" thread, the results might be similar, but definitely not identical.

Dubious; a lot of the people previously mentioned are rather humourless dry individuals who seem to do nothing other than pontificate about topical issues or wrangle over scoreboard placings.
Originally my point was that I was mildy peturbed that people seemed to be imagining that intelligence could only be demonstrated by debating. You seem to be trying to twist my words into saying that 'funny is the best way of demonstrating clever', but that really isn't the case.
As I said before, either you claim that debating is the only way of proving intelligence, or you'll have to concede that posters demonstrate intelligence (albeit less directly) when they post articulately and originally for more frivolous purposes. Here's a clue, one of the propositions is logically indefensible, and it isn't the second one.

This is what I said and this is what I stand by:

You can't expect people to get nominated for an intelligence poll if they act stupid for the sole purpose of being funny.

And this is where you really rile me, "everybody who isn't debating serious business is acting like an idiot". Apparently the virtues of light sociable interaction and the merits of conflict-free information exchange are lost on you. Furthermore you appear to have been the victim of a sense-of-humour amputation. Have you any idea how arrogant it sounds to declare that the only useful thing to do online is lecture other posters on current affairs and ethical issues? How pompous you sound when you decry any other actions as being 'idiotic' and 'stupid'?
No, you probably don't, because so far as I can tell you're completely cacooned in your own ego, and consumed by delusions of your own intellectual superiority.

No, it's not possible to gauge how smart a stand-up comic is based on his act."

Well why the hell not? Or are you one of these 'bald-assertion' monkeys? Can you explain to me why it demonstrates intelligence to present your opinions on issues in a lecture, but it doesn't demonstrate intelligence to be able to critically assess and find flaws in topics which you then lampoon in a humerous fashion? Are you honestly suggesting that the construction and delivery of a comic's act requires all of no intelligence to perpetrate?

No but seriously; are you? Because I thought you were supposed to be a smart kiddy...

Where else would anyone give a damn what a 17 year old thinks on such matters?

If you're expecting me to throw my hands up and shout "Whoah, only 17, he's a genius!" then you're about to be sadly disappointed. For all your arrogance and pomposity you're sounding fairly hollow here, all I've had from you are bald statements and assertions. Come on, you're supposed to be champion of debate, aren't you relishing the prospect of another? Isn't this the chance to prove how much cleverer you are than somebody whose nominations you've dismissed as imbeciles? I'm suprised that somebody with such an enormous regard for their own abilities is running into such difficulty here.

Come on Amby, dazzle us with your brilliance. Crush those 'idiots' like only the 'smartest' person on CC can.

What's the matter? You're not going to let an 'idiot' demolish you again are you?

The point to my post? well none really, life is what you make of it, and I among others would prefer to channel our gifted intellect into something that we can enjoy, including pissing people off.

I'm afraid that's the point here Ambrose... just because people don't enjoy droning on about serious business doesn't mean that they're not intelligent; and it certainly doesn't make all of their behaivour which isn't directed at serious business 'idiotic'. Perhaps you just need to learn to lighten up a bit before you attempt to ride your hobby-horse roughshod over the characters of other forum members... just a thought

[OnlyAmbrose]

No, but I do get mildly irked when I hear a pompous teenager dismissing everybody who he doesn't regard as part of the 'debating posse' as acting like 'idiots' simply because they don't want to use the forum for the same purpose that he does.

Never said they were idiots, I said they act like idiots. And let's face it, a lot of people do. Wrestler acts like an idiot, for instance (there is no way his CC personality is real). While I find that amusing, I'm not going to nominate him for any intelligence competitions

Also, I have a gigantic ego which I take extremely seriously, especially when people I regard as intelligent are the target of petty aspersions on the internet...

If the internet is so pitiful a thing to care about and my "aspirations" are so "petty", then why do you care so much as to have just made two of the longest posts I've ever seen?

Before we begin this, can I remind everybody that the reason I'm about to rip it out of Ambrose is not because I didn't get nominated enough; it's because he dismissed my list of highly-intelligent-non-debaters as 'idiots', because apparently he's a pompous blinkered ass who's been seasoned with a pinch of arrogance and a dash of illogicality.

How noble of you. Character assassination?

I stand by my comment. If you act like an idiot online you're going to be perceived as an idiot online.

How gracious of you. I can almost smell the disdain from here. Nice to know I'm chatting to a man with an open mind as to the merits of forum posters with whom he has had only fleeting previous interaction.

My perception was that you made a monster post to bait me into debating it, thus proving your point. In a word, I bit the bait.

As I said before, either you claim that debating is the only way of proving intelligence, or you'll have to concede that posters demonstrate intelligence (albeit less directly) when they post articulately and originally for more frivolous purposes. Here's a clue, one of the propositions is logically indefensible, and it isn't the second one.

Listen very closely, because I've said this SO many times:

I did not say our beloved forum comedians are stupid. I said they act stupid so there's no reason to get insulted when they don't win an intelligence competition.

I think that's a perfectly reasonable thing to say.

Apparently the virtues of light sociable interaction and the merits of conflict-free information exchange are lost on you.

Maybe, but i get enough social interaction in real life and not enough serious debate. So I get the latter here, and I don't really see the need for the former because I'm usually pretty socially fulfilled by the time I reach the computer at about 9 in the evening.

Have you any idea how arrogant it sounds to declare that the only useful thing to do online is lecture other posters on current affairs and ethical issues?

I never said that, in fact I think i said the opposite:

No, I don't think it takes an amazing amount of intelligence to be funny. Wit, certainly, and I'm not saying that one is more important than the other, but wit is not what we're talking about in this thread.

Moving on.

No, you probably don't, because so far as I can tell you're completely cacooned in your own ego

Ahem.

Also, I have a gigantic ego which I take extremely seriously

Well why the hell not? Or are you one of these 'bald-assertion' monkeys? Can you explain to me why it demonstrates intelligence to present your opinions on issues in a lecture, but it doesn't demonstrate intelligence to be able to critically assess and find flaws in topics which you then lampoon in a humerous fashion? Are you honestly suggesting that the construction and delivery of a comic's act requires all of no intelligence to perpetrate?

What are you even talking about? I was agreeing with you.

If you're expecting me to throw my hands up and shout "Whoah, only 17, he's a genius!" then you're about to be sadly disappointed.

Most people know I'm 17, it shouldn't be a surprise. I have no delusions about being a genius- I'm ranked 50th in my senior class (and just had difficulty finding the right spelling for the word )

Come on, you're supposed to be champion of debate, aren't you relishing the prospect of another?

To be honest, this is kinda fun

I'm afraid that's the point here Ambrose... just because people don't enjoy droning on about serious business doesn't mean that they're not intelligent; and it certainly doesn't make all of their behaivour which isn't directed at serious business 'idiotic'. Perhaps you just need to learn to lighten up a bit before you attempt to ride your hobby-horse roughshod over the characters of other forum members... just a thought

You know DM, for all your talk of not enjoying debate as much as being a satirist or whatever, you just invested a lot of time into trashing the character of someone you will never meet. Sound like a good use of ten minutes to you?

[static_ice]

wow... threadjacking to the max...

anyway I decided to vote for flashleg... very helpful as well as knowledgeable, and whatever political beliefs he has he doesn't push them on others

[Serbia]

I'm voting for fist fight between DM and Ambrose.

And Lord Twiggy, you've stopped your extreme to the max spamming ways, so you don't warrant mention any more. Back when you first joined you were right at the top though.

[Norse]

You know DM, for all your talk of not enjoying debate as much as being a satirist or whatever, you just invested a lot of time into trashing the character of someone you will never meet. Sound like a good use of ten minutes to you?

You ass biscuit.

I love the smell of fresh roasted lamb...*sniff sniff*...ahhhh

[salvadevinemasse]

You know DM, for all your talk of not enjoying debate as much as being a satirist or whatever, you just invested a lot of time into trashing the character of someone you will never meet. Sound like a good use of ten minutes to you?

You ass biscuit.

I love the smell of fresh roasted lamb...*sniff sniff*...ahhhh

many reasons why i already know your not the smartest on cc there norse.. Have a nice day!

[MR. Nate]

I have a gigantic ego which I take extremely seriously

Best single line since MeDeFe's recipe for religion.

[flashleg8]

vote Guiscard (his knowledge of history and current affairs is outstanding).


Close runners up would be Titanic, btwonmeggy, luns and CrazyAnglican as they always write interesting posts with well laid out arguments on whatever subject they debate.

Also agree with the votes for OnlyAmbrose., has some informative debate with him on Physics and mathematics and was amazed he was only a teenager!

Stopper deserves a mention for his comedy genius one-liners (along with his more serious pinko politics posts!).

That’s the love-in finished.

[Norse]

Damn pinkoes.

[Norse]

You know DM, for all your talk of not enjoying debate as much as being a satirist or whatever, you just invested a lot of time into trashing the character of someone you will never meet. Sound like a good use of ten minutes to you?

You ass biscuit.

I love the smell of fresh roasted lamb...*sniff sniff*...ahhhh

many reasons why i already know your not the smartest on cc there norse.. Have a nice day!

Ahh well, as a philosopher once said:

"A perfect man can be admired, but never loved"

[Strider24]

Well i think i am smart but no-one would vote for me
1. Because i am not well known on cc
2. I am only 15
3. Most people would say those two don't count so i am not smart for posting no. 3
4. Most people would say no.3 is wrong so i am not smart for posting no.4

And i say Coleman

[Stopper]

I'm just flattered I got two mentions after I offered teh sex.

[Norse]

I'm just flattered I got two mentions after I offered teh sex.

well, if you look anything like your picture (which you do) who can blame the ladies for throwing their cyber-knickers at you?

[Serbia]

Well i think i am smart but no-one would vote for me
1. Because i am not well known on cc
2. I am only 15
3. Most people would say those two don't count so i am not smart for posting no. 3
4. Most people would say no.3 is wrong so i am not smart for posting no.4

And i say Coleman

I say you're not smart because you're blowing your own horn.

[Norse]

Well i think i am smart but no-one would vote for me
1. Because i am not well known on cc
2. I am only 15
3. Most people would say those two don't count so i am not smart for posting no. 3
4. Most people would say no.3 is wrong so i am not smart for posting no.4

And i say Coleman

I say you're not smart because you're blowing your own horn.

...as opposed to blowing serbia's large, erect horn....which would be a smart thing to do.

[Strider24]

lol and that

[qeee1]

My vote goes to anyone who hasn't posted in this thread.