Majority Want Biden Removed

[ConfederateSS]

FALSE....Clinton had a chance TO HIT AND KILL BINLADEN in 1997...The Navy had a lock on his position...Called Clinton for permission to fire as they were hitting targets in Africa that had AlQueda cells..After Black Hawk down... Clinton never gave the order...That led to 911...that led to a 20 year war...and a hunt by BUSH for BINLADEN...when Clinton could have done the job and kept us out of Afghanistan... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[saxitoxin]

Biden is getting panned for his no-questions-allowed, teleprompter speech. People are saying he looks like he may have received a steroids injection prior to the speech to stay focused and, even then, seemed monotone. As #ImpeachBiden is trending on Twitter, it's clear Biden may be incapacitated. This is now a lame duck regime; we're now just treading water until a new president comes along in a year or two. No more major policies or legislation coming out of this one.

[HitRed]

China should attack Taiwan today.

[saxitoxin]

China should attack Taiwan today.

I would, if I were China.

There are some bright spots. With the U.S. government essentially in a state of collapse, and with no orders coming from a catatonic and incapacitated Biden, the crew of a USAF C-17 independently decided to take off to evacuate Biden-doomed Afghans ...

Air Force evacuation flight from Kabul to Qatar came near the record for most people ever flown in the Boeing airlifter.

Instead of trying to force those refugees off the aircraft, “the crew made the decision to go,” a defense official told Defense One. “Approximately 640 Afghan civilians disembarked the aircraft when it arrived at its destination,” one defense official said.

https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2021/ ... an/184563/

Even the lapdog media are seeming to realize what a disaster Biden is ...

Facing withering criticism from Washington Democrats and Republicans alike, he acknowledged that the destabilization in Afghanistan occurred “more quickly than expected,” but he went only so far in accepting blame.

"I am the president of the United States of America, and the buck stops with me," Biden said.

Instead, he set blame squarely on the shoulders of the Afghans.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-draws- ... 09278.html

Protests are growing outside the White House, with pro-Trump free speech groups pledging to join the crowds this weekend to encourage Biden to resign in humiliation -- or for the cabinet to depose him via the 25th Amendment --

[jusplay4fun]

President Biden and his team certainly mismanaged our withdraw from Afghanistan. And we left many of those Afghanis who fought and who helped us as translators and with other key tasks.

I heard Biden being quoted as soon ago as July 8 NOT seeing this rapid and sudden collapse of Afghanis loyal to the government in Kabul.

The sudden collapse of the Government forces is stunning, but not surprising. We turned the tables quickly against the Taliban when we (the US and a few allies) went in in 2002 or so. BUT we could never win the hearts and minds of those living outside the major cities. I think those people make up most of the Taliban fighters.

As I already said, much of the Afghani fighters are really fighting tribal wars and are not, as a general rule, fighting with or against American strategic interests. They do want foreign invaders (as they view them) which are the Americans, OUT of their country. I do not buy the hawking arguments that our troops on the ground prevented another 9-11 or other terrorist attacks in the USA. The connection between Afghan freedom fighters and the Muslim terrorists seem to me tenuous. Bin Laden seemed to have bought and bribed his way inside the Taliban power structure which allowed him to train fighters without fear of reprisals. He was also a proven and well-recognized Mujahedin Freedom Fighter vs. the Soviets in the late 1970s, so had "street creds" to influence those in power in the Taliban in that time period.

Will Muslim militants be emboldened? likely. to attack the USA? I hope not and I hope we learned lessons from 9-11. We certainly did NOT learn the lessons of Vietnam and how to evacuate a nation. Scenes of the Afghanis clinging to departing aircraft are sad and deeply disheartening. The scenes are so reminiscent of Vietnam. PERIOD.

Will we see a return to the tribal fighting that has gone on in Afghanistan for the past 1,000 or so years? Likely. The repression of women? very likely, under conservation Taliban leaders. If after 20 years, TOO many American lives and wounded, and BILLIONS (or even Trillions) of US dollars, another year or 5 years or 10 years will NOT matter and will not alter the path of that nation "in name only." (I addressed this matter earlier in THIS thread, but since saxi keeps changing the title, that is unclear to me.)

As I said before, President Obama SHOULD have got us OUT of there after the death of Bin Laden. Trump tried and made some progress, but not fast enough for me. The DEBACLE of the chaos of the US withdraw is CLEARLY ON President BIDEN. I heard him say 1) "the Buck stops with me" and 2) that he would NOT do anything differently. REALLY? You OWN a disaster and have not learned from it? What a sad excuse for a leader and what pathetic actions (or lack of actions and some foresights) by the POTUS. ALL he had to do was READ saxi's daily POSTS to understand 1) the gravity of the situation and 2) the speed of the collapse of the Afghan army (i.e., the government forces.)

The USA does not look good to its allies, whether Kurds in Iraq or those who helped us in Afghanistan. I would allege that we could not get Afghanis out and settled in the USA FAST enough PARTLY because we are dealing with too many Hispanic ILLEGALS in our country NOW and we do not have sufficient facilities to house and transition LEGITIMATE refugees from Afghanistan.

This is a sad day for the USA and for Afghanis who helped the USA.

[Dukasaur]

The DEBACLE of the chaos of the US withdraw is CLEARLY ON President BIDEN.

Two questions.

First, have you been taking typing lessons from Confed?

Second, what exactly do you think Biden should have done differently? Stay a few more years? Spend another 10 or 20 billion?

Any student of history could have told you that the collapse was inevitable. Puppet regimes rarely survive long, once the puppetmaster has grown tired of them. The only question was, how many more billions would you have spent to play with your puppet for a few more months or a few more years?

A year ago, once Trump negotiated peace with the Taliban, the Taliban began pre-negotiating the surrenders of the various government units. The only thing remaining for Biden to do was settle on a date.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/08/16/afghanistan-history-taliban-collapse-504977

The central feature of the past several weeks in Afghanistan has not been fighting. It has been negotiations between the Taliban and Afghan forces, sometimes brokered by local elders. On Sunday, the Washington Post reported “a breathtaking series of negotiated surrenders by government forces” that resulted from more than a year of deal-making between the Taliban and rural leaders.

[jusplay4fun]

I would want a more orderly withdraw of our personnel and some of our allies, such as translators. Sending troops BACK to Afghanistan to complete the withdraw is evidence of bad planning and bad intelligence and LACK of intelligence. Biden and his Team showed ALL of that.

AND NO, I do not want to see more American killed or wounded or more money wasted. IT is the HOW we evacuated that I find very disheartening.

[jusplay4fun]

First, have you been taking typing lessons from Confed?

seriously? My grammar, spelling, and use of large font size for emphasis are light-years ahead of Confed. Ask him yourself.

[saxitoxin]

BREAKING: Two hours after Biden warned the Taliban to stay away from the airport during the evacuation, the Taliban have just seized control of half of the facility. American forces have been pushed back - under fire - into the other half. Unclear who controls the one runway. Thousands of American diplomats have yet to be evacuated. Essentially no hope left for the other nationalities (Europeans, Canadians, Indians, etc.) who now face certain beheading.

[aladeen]

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[Dukasaur]

I would want a more orderly withdraw of our personnel and some of our allies, such as translators. Sending troops BACK to Afghanistan to complete the withdraw is evidence of bad planning and bad intelligence and LACK of intelligence.

I don't disagree, but I don't think you can put that on Biden. Everyone, regardless of political stripe, was expecting the Afghan puppet state to limp along for a couple of years after American troops withdrew, the way that South Vietnam did. Some were saying months instead of years but nobody, not the soldiers, not the scholars, not the diplomats, not the pundits or the oddsmakers, expected the collapse to come in two weeks.

I think everybody was using Vietnam as their prediction template, but what they missed was that there were plenty of people in South Vietnam who genuinely hated the North and were willing to fight to the death. There were very few people in Afghanistan (other than actual apparatchiks of the state) who hated the Taliban.

[saxitoxin]

Biden regime officials beg trapped Americans to stay away from the airport at all costs and to go into hiding in Kabul. It appears American forces are about to be routed at the airport by the Students. The only escape left will be for the Americans to fight across the Khyber Pass and then try to surrender to the Pakistani Army.

Americans remaining in Kabul should not travel to the airport ... but instead "shelter" and wait for further instructions, State Department spokesperson Ned Price said this afternoon.

"The situation is evolving quickly, and we will communicate information to US citizens as rapidly as possible," said Price, speaking from the State Department this afternoon.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/afg ... index.html

Remaining Superpowers Recognize Taliban Government, Pakistan Throws Support to Mullah Baradar - World Leaders Declare U.S. Irrelevant - Biden, despite being possibly incapacitated, still enjoys support of Luxembourg and Iceland

Both China and Russia backed the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan at the UN Security Council on Monday.

China's Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN, Geng Shuang said China "respects the wishes and choices of the Afghan people". Russia’s Permanent Representative Vassily Nebenzia told the UNSC, "According to our report, the Taliban has already sought to bring public order and have also confirmed security guarantees for civilians and for the foreign diplomatic mission staff." Asked whether Pakistan recognizes the Taliban again as the government of Afghanistan, Pakistan's Permanent Representative to the UN, Munir Akram said at a press conference: "I think the Taliban had said that they will accept an inclusive government; that they would wish to have a government which represents all groups in Afghanistan and we would like to take them at their word and we are working towards that end."

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/a ... 2021-08-16

[DirtyDishSoap]

Their best bet is to stay in Kabul than risk Pakistan.

[saxitoxin]

Their best bet is to stay in Kabul than risk Pakistan.

The urban terrain provides better cover or due to the attitude of the Paks?

[saxitoxin]

BREAKING: The Taliban have just seized the gym at the abandoned chancery of the American embassy and are using it to keep those tight bods fit.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Their best bet is to stay in Kabul than risk Pakistan.

The urban terrain provides better cover or due to the attitude of the Paks?

If you go to Pakistan, you ain't going to be seen again to put it nicely.

[DirtyDishSoap]

If anything, go to the northern regions or northwest region of Khandahar where its mostly a neutral zone.

[saxitoxin]

If anything, go to the northern regions or northwest region of Khandahar where its mostly a neutral zone.

Leave via the northern border or try to secure an airfield in the north and wait for pickup?

[DirtyDishSoap]

If anything, go to the northern regions or northwest region of Khandahar where its mostly a neutral zone.

Leave via the northern border or try to secure an airfield in the north and wait for pickup?

Id wait a week or two for it to blow over, then start making way to kyrgyzstan where i would know an installation would be. Failing that, there's Quatar in Iraq.

If the situation is as dire as it sounds, these are the two locations id go to, and i would use that northern region first since the locals are not dominated by Suuni or Shiat or however you spell it. It's a small religion but they're basically monks who would help you.

I don't know much of Pakistan other than that being a death sentence.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Ill say this at least. I'm thinking worst case scenario if my company is decimated and I'm a survivor of it and trying to get out of the area. If i know Pasab and Balab/Andaconda have fallen, I'd shoot for something out of the country. Travel at night, wear dark clothing or enough to protect me from the sun, be light enough to where i hopefully won't trigger an IED and stay off of the main roads or villages/ heavy traffic. It's feasible. Of the two countries i know would be just a legal means of suicide are Pakistan and Iran.

[HitRed]

We can now confirm Biden fled DC during the Afghan fighting.

[ConfederateSS]

First, have you been taking typing lessons from Confed?

seriously? My grammar, spelling, and use of large font size for emphasis are light-years ahead of Confed. Ask him yourself.

-------No WAY ...MINE is WAY KOOLER ....
-------I give typing lessons on Sundays from 4:00am to 4:30am...I don't know Duk,I think I seen Jp4fun at a lesson I held 2 months ago... ...He was wearing a Bernie Sanders mask... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[saxitoxin]

So it turns out the Taliban have similar legislative priorities to Joe Biden ...

Meanwhile, Taliban fighters began collecting civilians' personal weapons saying they'll no longer need them.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 021-08-10/

Meanwhile, USAF ground crews are having to power wash out the body parts of dead Afghans stuck inside the landing gears of C17s that smashed through crowds of civilians in their desperation to take off as Biden diplomats hysterically tried to flee the carnage. Welcome to Biden's America.

The body of an Afghan so desperate to escape the country hours after Kabul fell to the Taliban was found in the landing gear of an American C-17 transport aircraft hours after it hastily took off from Hamid Karzai International Airport, according to two sources familiar with the matter. The news is the latest disturbing development after chaos erupted at Kabul’s international airport over the weekend following the Taliban’s stunning takeover of Afghanistan’s capital city. Terrifying videos showing Afghans clinging to planes, including the military’s massive C-17 cargo jets, as they attempted to take off dominated news segments across the world Monday. Some videos showed Afghans falling from mid-air from a plane leaving the airport.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/1 ... ort-505400

Outlets are reporting Biden continues to be heavily sedated by physicians at Camp David with confusion in the government as to who exactly is running the country. As crowds of protestors grow outside the White House, so too do calls for Biden's resignation or removal.

[saxitoxin]

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[DirtyDishSoap]

I am witnessing a culmination of twenty years spent amount to absolutely nothing.

The people who've fought to secure these areas that have came got fucked beyond belief or just dead for this? Fucking great.

This is Vietnam if not worst.

And now I'm part of this shit bag legacy. Meme it up if you'd like. Imagine though spending nearly 6 years in two different shit holes fighting for some obscure ideal just crumble around you. All the people I've watched either die or become a cripple have just now been for nothing.

It's not Democratic, nor Republic at this point. We could have ended this a long fucking time ago.

I knew it wasn't for anything to begin with, I saw first hand that this was going to go south the moment we left, but it's all the more sad.

To those that have served with me past, present or future, all I can do is say my heart goes out to you. We're now part of a failed operation that should have been aborted almost a decade ago.

I'm ashamed of my service at this point. Not because of anything else but this delusional government that no longer has the best interest of it's people anymore.

Lock me up at this point. I'm too pissed off to care anymore. f*ck it and f*ck American ideals. It's been pissed down the drain. Killed like that dog you loved too much but got too old. Corruption rules, both parties, and I'm now a sad witness to the death of what I thought fought for.

Just f*ck it. I need another beer.