The DoomYoshi Musings thread

[mookiemcgee]

Click here for a scandal that will surely shatter your world:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... ir-helgemo

Mind Blown...

[Dukasaur]

Click here for a scandal that will surely shatter your world:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... ir-helgemo

Yeah, it's pretty disgusting that someone from ultra-egalitarian Norway would go and serve the elitist snobs of Monaco.

[jonesthecurl]

Click here for a scandal that will surely shatter your world:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... ir-helgemo

A Bridge Too Far.

[Symmetry]

Wait- drugs and alcohol are involved in gambling and card games? Mind... blown...

[DoomYoshi]

I was wondering why he was taking female fertility drugs...

Either way, on to the next niche market:
https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/faking-hitler

[DoomYoshi]

Everything you know is wrong... just forget the words and sing along:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/podc ... mona-lisa/

[Dukasaur]

Everything you know is wrong... just forget the words and sing along:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/podc ... mona-lisa/

Yeah. Scientific American's "60-second science" podcast lasts for 121 seconds.

[DoomYoshi]

Ethical Dilemma time, for those who believe in relative ethics:
I keep getting unsolicited phone calls from Ohio and Pakistan. Since Canadian law can't protect me against these out-of-country terrorists, and the Canadian government can not battle either Ohio or Pakistan (since both are nuclear powers*). So there are very few options remaining. In this situation, is planting bombs within the Cincinnati subway system** an expedient? Normally, that would be considered an evil and reprehensible act, but compared to the untold evil of nuisance phone calls, it almost seems saintly. What about passive aggressive racism towards Pakistani-Canadians? Is there any deliverance here on earth or has Satan absolute power?

*Officially, there are no nukes in Ohio, but officially there are no nukes in the entire Northeastern United States. Since that is unlikely, I have to put them somewhere, so I've opted for Ohio, since it fits the plotline here.

**You probably didn't know that Cincinnati has a subway system. It doesn't, but 2 miles of tunnels were built and then the depression hit. Come to think of it, that might be a good place to store Ohio's nuclear arsenal.

[DoomYoshi]

Keep Conquer Club Sexy - 24 hours challenge

[Bernie Sanders]

Keep Conquer Club Sexy - 24 hours challenge

Not sexy at all. Your avatar is.

[DoomYoshi]

I found evidence of time trial. This video features people watching this video (which couldn't have been made yet):

[riskllama]

how come you think muslims aren't people, DY???

[DoomYoshi]

Murder is illegal.
Killing Muslims isn't.
Therefore they aren't people.

Just watch the news.

[riskllama]

sure they are, DY...

[DoomYoshi]

So today I came across a word cataplasms which was new to me:

Sometimes He upbraids, and sometimes He threatens. Some men He mourns over, others He addresses with the voice of song, just as a good physician treats some of his patients with cataplasms, some with rubbing, some with fomentations; in one case cuts open with the lancet, in another cauterizes, in another amputates, in order if possible to cure the patient's diseased part or member. The Saviour has many tones of voice, and many methods for the salvation of men; by threatening He admonishes, by upbraiding He converts, by bewailing He pities, by the voice of song He cheers.

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/020801.htm
(This is is a fairly lengthy thing, and you probably don't want to read it)

Then I came across a word catalepsy:

Socrates claimed to have heard voices in his head from youth, and is described as standing still in public places for long stretches of time, deep in thought. Plato notes these phenomena without comment, accepting Socrates’ own description of the voices as his ‘divine sign’, and reporting on his awe-inspiring ability to meditate for hours on end. Aristotle, the son of a doctor, took a more medical approach: he suggested that Socrates (along with other thinkers) suffered from a medical condition he calls ‘melancholy’. Recent medical investigators have agreed, speculating that Socrates’ behaviour was consistent with a medical condition known as catalepsy.

https://aeon.co/ideas/was-the-real-socr ... an-we-knew
(This is a quick article, and well worth the time spent reading it)

It's strange to learn 2 new words in one day that both begin with the same 4 letters. κατά is a pretty common Greek prefix though.

[Dukasaur]

Read Mark Twain's A Cat Tale.

[DoomYoshi]

So many know that common literacy came out of the Christian push to teach people to read their bibles. While many may think the benefit is in the past, there are still benefits, as bibles being translated into local dialects is helping to rescue endangered languages, like this one:
https://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National ... index.html

[Symmetry]

So many know that common literacy came out of the Christian push to teach people to read their bibles. While many may think the benefit is in the past, there are still benefits, as bibles being translated into local dialects is helping to rescue endangered languages, like this one:
https://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National ... index.html

That's interesting, I hadn't thought of looking at that. I would say that I think you're not entirely right about Protestantism promoting local dialects though. There's a lot of evidence to show that the Renaissance pushed for a return to more classical forms Latin, for example, and basically killed it as a language. Further, bibles had to be authorised even in missionary work, and when print came into it, it becomes even more complicated. Old dialects and the traditions that came with them just died as the forms of worship that were attached to them changed or simply died.

There's a lot of historians who are taking a more balanced view of the Reformation nowadays (though there's still plenty of people who think that Catholic society at the time was the black to Protestantism's white).

On a broader front, it's often interesting to note that the missionary work by Christians in South America was probably one of the most destructive acts of genocide in early modern history, Entire literate cultures lost to people who thought that literacy meant that you could read their particular version of the Bible.

[DoomYoshi]

Wow, there is a lot to unpack here.

There's a lot of evidence to show that the Renaissance pushed for a return to more classical forms Latin, for example, and basically killed it as a language.

Latin was dead a thousand years before the Reformation (or the Renaissance, but that's not what I think you meant to say). There were still various vulgar latins spoken which morphed into the Romance languages. This was already happening a long time ago. Jerome's Vulgate is so-named because he didn't write in literary latin, but rather the vulgar latin of the time. Once the Western Roman Empire collapsed, the Eastern empire continued to use Greek and there was no central authority to rule on the correct grammar of latin anymore, so people just spoke French, Italian, Spanish, Romanian, etc.

Further, bibles had to be authorised even in missionary work, and when print came into it, it becomes even more complicated.

I am not sure what you mean by this.

There's a lot of historians who are taking a more balanced view of the Reformation nowadays (though there's still plenty of people who think that Catholic society at the time was the black to Protestantism's white).

I specifically did not mention Protestantism above.

On a broader front, it's often interesting to note that the missionary work by Christians in South America was probably one of the most destructive acts of genocide in early modern history, Entire literate cultures lost to people who thought that literacy meant that you could read their particular version of the Bible.

Yes, although oddly enough the Vatican library is the best source for most of that literature now.

[DoomYoshi]

I was wondering why he was taking female fertility drugs...

Either way, on to the next niche market:
https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/faking-hitler

Hmmm... a copycat article?
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/maga ... -paintings

Is Hitler the most faked thing since orgasms?

[DoomYoshi]

So I saw some graffiti that said "BEWARE THE SEA PEOPLES... THEY ARE COMING FOR US ALL"

Sounds like a sage warning:

[Symmetry]

Wow, there is a lot to unpack here.

There's a lot of evidence to show that the Renaissance pushed for a return to more classical forms Latin, for example, and basically killed it as a language.

Latin was dead a thousand years before the Reformation (or the Renaissance, but that's not what I think you meant to say). There were still various vulgar latins spoken which morphed into the Romance languages. This was already happening a long time ago. Jerome's Vulgate is so-named because he didn't write in literary latin, but rather the vulgar latin of the time. Once the Western Roman Empire collapsed, the Eastern empire continued to use Greek and there was no central authority to rule on the correct grammar of latin anymore, so people just spoke French, Italian, Spanish, Romanian, etc.

Further, bibles had to be authorised even in missionary work, and when print came into it, it becomes even more complicated.

I am not sure what you mean by this.

There's a lot of historians who are taking a more balanced view of the Reformation nowadays (though there's still plenty of people who think that Catholic society at the time was the black to Protestantism's white).

I specifically did not mention Protestantism above.

On a broader front, it's often interesting to note that the missionary work by Christians in South America was probably one of the most destructive acts of genocide in early modern history, Entire literate cultures lost to people who thought that literacy meant that you could read their particular version of the Bible.

Yes, although oddly enough the Vatican library is the best source for most of that literature now.

No, I literally meant that Latin was a living language. Slightly zombified, perhaps, but if you want to read texts from, say the 12th or 13th Century, before the Renaissance, you'll struggle if you only know the Latin of Cicero. Latin did evolve as it was used over the centuries, just like any language, but nowadays we only really learn classical era Latin.

I'm not sure how else to explain it to you, but perhaps that 21st Century English is different from Shakespeare. Or perhaps that classical Latin didn't have the shared concepts of theological Christian Latin in the Middle Ages.

[Symmetry]

Sorry, other questions that you asked:

Missionary work tends to be under the shelter of a church. That does tend to mean that there's a specific Bible that has been authorised as the version to be re-re-translated and put forward.

I know that you made an effort to specifically not mention Protestantism, but it was kind of obvious that you specifically didn't. May I ask why you you specifically didn't mention it?