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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby DAZMCFC on Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:33 am

Fircoal wrote:most stuff after the 90's isn't that good. And the Beatles aren't either. Anyway my list, where I don't list the alternative, and classic rock albums over and over again. :roll: Semi-particular order :P

Master of Puppets - Metallica
Keeper of the 7 Keys - Helloween
Appetite For Destruction - Guns 'n' Roses
Rainbow Rising - Rainbow
...And Justice For All - Metallica
Cryptic Writings - Megadeth
Risk - Megadeth
Ride The Lightning - Metallica
Animals - Pink Floyd (Though Wall, Meddle, and DSOTM aren't far behind)
Speak English Or Die - S.O.D. (Pure genius)
Generation Swine - Motley Cure
Hip To the Javabean - Lemon Demon
Dinosuarchestra - Lemon Demon

Oddly some of these albums aren't played a ton by me. XD




you must have hearing problems listenng to all that bollocks.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby jnd94 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:37 am

qeee1 wrote:Because alternative rock is the only genre worth listening to:

My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Television - Marquee Moon
Sebadoh - III
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society
Nirvana - In Utero
Boards of Canada - Music has the right to children
Can - Future Days
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
The Smiths - The Queen is Dead


That is about all I agree with.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby jnd94 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:56 am

Led Zeppelin IV - Led Zeppelin
Physical Graffiti - Led Zeppelin
London Calling - The Clash
Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd
Back in Black - AC/DC
Siamese Dream - Smashing Pumpkins
Who's Next - The Who
Desire - Bob Dylan
Play - Moby
Ten - Pearl Jam
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby TheProwler on Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:17 am

suggs wrote:
TheProwler wrote:
suggs wrote:Listen to the album . Its one classic after another.
Tommy, on the other hand is balls.
I loved the Who in their Mod phase.
Once they rocked it up, and Pete lost the knack of pop craftsmanship, they wern't the same.


Hey, if you aren't really that into music, I understand where you're coming from.

:lol:
you love to think of yourself as...
in fact, you just love thinking about yourself, don't you puggieporky?

But its sad how you think you are a great "mind games man" etc, when ALL of you done on CC is toget EVERYONE (wumpy your son or neighbour or whatever he is, just doesn't count) to think you are an utter...
I know I am "into music" -and i really dont give a shit whether you believe that or not.


You just don't understand that artists like The Who put together albums as a complete set of work.

Saying a compilation is one of your favourite albums is just demonstrating that you don't really understand the artist.

That's like saying "This is my favourite painting by Leonardo da Vinci" and then showing a painting that is a mosaic of pieces of his paintings: The eyes from Mona Lisa, Jesus' left hand from The Last Supper, one of the kids in Virgin of the Rocks, etc.

That is fine for someone, like yourself, who doesn't really understand the artist or the art. A knowledgeable music lover like myself feels pity for those, like yourself, who cannot fully appreciate the complete expression of art that is a great album.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby Snorri1234 on Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:26 am

suggs wrote:who are to the extreme


It's Vanilla Ice's album.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby heavycola on Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:27 am

TheProwler wrote:
suggs wrote:
TheProwler wrote:
suggs wrote:Listen to the album . Its one classic after another.
Tommy, on the other hand is balls.
I loved the Who in their Mod phase.
Once they rocked it up, and Pete lost the knack of pop craftsmanship, they wern't the same.


Hey, if you aren't really that into music, I understand where you're coming from.

:lol:
you love to think of yourself as...
in fact, you just love thinking about yourself, don't you puggieporky?

But its sad how you think you are a great "mind games man" etc, when ALL of you done on CC is toget EVERYONE (wumpy your son or neighbour or whatever he is, just doesn't count) to think you are an utter...
I know I am "into music" -and i really dont give a shit whether you believe that or not.


You just don't understand that artists like The Who put together albums as a complete set of work.

Saying a compilation is one of your favourite albums is just demonstrating that you don't really understand the artist.

That's like saying "This is my favourite painting by Leonardo da Vinci" and then showing a painting that is a mosaic of pieces of his paintings: The eyes from Mona Lisa, Jesus' left hand from The Last Supper, one of the kids in Virgin of the Rocks, etc.

no it's not, not at all. It's like going to an exhibition of Picasso's finest paintings in an art gallery. Jesus, look at Who's next - there is some shite among the gems there.
Perhaps our favourite ska frontman likes those Who songs in that order. Maybe the album has nostalgic value. Or do you allow your tastes to be dictated by other people's ideas about what is the correct way to listen to music?
I can see the point you are fumbling towards, in an effort to make yourself look good, and in many cases you are right about albums being complete pieces of work. Doesn't mean i have to sit through 'and the gods made love' every time i stick on electric ladyland.
There are no hard and fast rules to enjoyign music, as any knowledgeable music lover would appreciate... oh wait:

That is fine for someone, like yourself, who doesn't really understand the artist or the art. A knowledgeable music lover like myself feels pity for those, like yourself, who cannot fully appreciate the complete expression of art that is a great album.


The music world must thank its lucky stars it has you, pugalizer. Right now bob dylan is probably on his knees thanking god that at least one man properly appreciates his art.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby TheProwler on Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:52 am

heavycola wrote:in many cases you are right about albums being complete pieces of work.


And that is part of what makes a great album great - it is a necessary ingredient. It ain't all just pop songs boys.

heavycola wrote:The music world must thank its lucky stars it has you, pugalizer. Right now bob dylan is probably on his knees thanking god that at least one man properly appreciates his art.


No, I think there are a lot of people who understand.

When I listen to a great album, I prefer to listen alone with no interruptions and when I am doing nothing else but sitting or laying down and listening. And I reserve time afterwards to reflect. That is what I do with a great album.

With Meaty, Beaty, Big And Bouncy, I'll dance, play air guitar, drink, do housework, whatever. It isn't meant to be anything more than a collection of catchy tunes.

Maybe someday you will understand.

If you want to get from there to here, try this:

Get ahold of Brian Jones Presents:The Pipes Of Pan in Joujouka. Dim the lights and smoke a joint or drink a few beer. Listen to the entire album with no interruptions. Let your mind wander if it happens. You have been cleansed. Now take a break for 15 minutes to a half hour or so. Now listen to John Lennon's Plastic Ono Band in it's entirety with no interruptions. Do not let your mind wander. Concentrate on the music and the words and the voice and the emotion.

If you do this, you will have arrived. You will be here and you will understand.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby heavycola on Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:14 am

Look, if you want to spend your time listening to Plastic Ono Band, an album I have never really cared for, that's up to you. The subjectivity is the point. I agree with your approach - it's one I take whenever I have the chance. The last albums I gave proper time like that to were 7.30 Draft by Autechre and Fulfillingness' First Finale by Stevie W. A complete experience in both cases.
But it's just one way of listening music. Sneering at someone for having it on in the background while they work is stupid. It's like having a go at someone for walking differently. You are not 'better' at listening to music than anyone else.

Maybe someday you will understand.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby suggs on Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:22 am

Prowler you don't undersand. Yeah, often compilations of bands are just hastily packaged, commerical items that fail to demonstrate the band in questions true artistic merits.
But for some bands, whos grasp of the single format WAS part of their ethos (eg the Smtihs, Madness and early Who) compilations show themn in their best light.
Hence why "Divine Madness", "Singles" and "Meaty, Beaty" are worthy examples of genuinely classic albums.
Hence also why "A Collection Of Great Dance Songs" by Floyd is a bit pap really - the Floyd were never, post Barratt, a genuine singles outfit, and so you don't really get a feel for the Floyd.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby suggs on Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:30 am

ps yeah wot Cola said ;) :)

and i admit, i think a lot of Meaty , Beaty's appeal is the fact that my big bro played it to death when i was growing up.
The bit where you hear Pete say "Right silence!" (in fact i've never eally worked out what he is saying there!) before "I Can See For Miles" kicks in still sends me back to being six years old :)

i suspect the main difference between us is that i prefer Pop-Rock (hence my preference for early Who) to Rock (hence why me and Cola part our ways when the Zep appear on the horozon).

But I have no time for those who sneeringly argue that rock is "better", or "deeper", or more artistic etc -the craftsmanship of someone like Albarn, Davies or Marr IS great art,in my opinion. Try writing a song that is catchy, meaningful and beautiful, and putting it into 3 mins -it ain't easy.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby TheProwler on Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:52 am

Like I said, if you aren't really that into music, I understand. I think we should leave it at that.

Cola, listening to an album as background music...that's like comparing two people at a pub with a soccer game on...one guy is watching the entire game and doesn't miss a play. The other guy just looks up to see the replays of the goals. Who appreciates soccer more?

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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby heavycola on Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:02 pm

suggs wrote:Prowler you don't undersand. Yeah, often compilations of bands are just hastily packaged, commerical items that fail to demonstrate the band in questions true artistic merits.
But for some bands, whos grasp of the single format WAS part of their ethos (eg the Smtihs, Madness and early Who) compilations show themn in their best light.


Very well put sir.

prowler - stop being such a cock, this isn't FW. You just admitted to listening to Plastic Ono Band with your eyes closed in a darkened room, then comtemplating it afterwards. I hope your comtemplation ended with some enlightment about how overrated it is. Either way, you aren't on the perch you think you are. Seriously. In fact - why not tell us your top-10?

BTW Suggs is spot on when he talks about bands like The Smiths - Morrissey of course being one of the greatest songwriters that ever drew breath - working to the 3 or 4 minute single format. Surely a worldbeating expert such as yourself knows this?
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby TheProwler on Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:25 pm

Hey, you guys aren't connoisseurs. That is nothing to be ashamed of. No need to get so defensive.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby heavycola on Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:31 pm

TheProwler wrote:Hey, you guys aren't connoisseurs. That is nothing to be ashamed of. No need to get so defensive.


come on, your top-10.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby Curmudgeonx on Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:04 pm

My Top Eleven (homage to Spinal Tap) (in no particular order)

Physical Graffiti - Led Zeppelin (double album epitomizing their entire career)
Alchemy - Dire Straits (live double album that expresses Knopfler's guitar skills)
Suffer - Bad Religion (tempted to put the All Ages album here)
American Idiot - Green Day (the state of american alt-punk rock, band will probably never live up to their potential)
Appetite for Destruction - Guns and Roses (hate 'em or love 'em, this album fucking rocks)
Lonesome Jubliee - John Mellencamp (so many to choose from, Uh-huh or Whenever We Wanted, but LJ is classic americana)
Born to Run - Springsteen (Jersey boy tour de force before patriotism of Born in USA made me want to barf)
Excitable Boy - Warren Zevon (articulate, musically adventurous, tempted to leave this out because of the Jackson Browne influence)
Lovesick, Broke and Driftin - Hank Williams III (harsh country album from a punk/country rebel)
Wish You were Here - Pink Floyd (more moving to me than Dark Side or Wall, not technically great, but one of my favorites)
John Prine - John Prine (Country/folk at its best without the distraction of Dylan)
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby TheProwler on Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:40 pm

heavycola wrote:
TheProwler wrote:Hey, you guys aren't connoisseurs. That is nothing to be ashamed of. No need to get so defensive.


come on, your top-10.


John Lennon - Shaved Fish
The Beatles - Yesterday and Today
The Who - Odds and Sods
The Rolling Stones - Hot Rocks
John Lennon - John Lennon Collection
Ten Years After - Classic Performances
Trooper - Hot Shots
The Kinks - Well Respected Kinks
John Lennon - Lennon Legend
The Beatles - Rock N' Roll Music

All absolute classics.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby heavycola on Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:14 pm

TheProwler wrote:
heavycola wrote:
TheProwler wrote:Hey, you guys aren't connoisseurs. That is nothing to be ashamed of. No need to get so defensive.


come on, your top-10.


John Lennon - Shaved Fish
The Beatles - Yesterday and Today
The Who - Odds and Sods
The Rolling Stones - Hot Rocks
John Lennon - John Lennon Collection
Ten Years After - Classic Performances
Trooper - Hot Shots
The Kinks - Well Respected Kinks
John Lennon - Lennon Legend
The Beatles - Rock N' Roll Music

All absolute classics.


so... no. Just more trolling. Quelle surprise.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby Gypsys Kiss on Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:59 pm

Pug, while I find it no surprise that you have time to listen to albums on your own, it does bother me that you have to take narcotics to be able to understand them. Surely a music aficionado such as yourself would be able to enjoy and understand them without being stone or pissed out of your tiny mind.

And if you cant post a proper list, stop disparaging other peoples.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby suggs on Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:57 pm

Curmudgeonx wrote:My Top Eleven (homage to Spinal Tap) (in no particular order)

Physical Graffiti - Led Zeppelin (double album epitomizing their entire career)
Alchemy - Dire Straits (live double album that expresses Knopfler's guitar skills)
Suffer - Bad Religion (tempted to put the All Ages album here)
American Idiot - Green Day (the state of american alt-punk rock, band will probably never live up to their potential)
Appetite for Destruction - Guns and Roses (hate 'em or love 'em, this album fucking rocks)
Lonesome Jubliee - John Mellencamp (so many to choose from, Uh-huh or Whenever We Wanted, but LJ is classic americana)
Born to Run - Springsteen (Jersey boy tour de force before patriotism of Born in USA made me want to barf)
Excitable Boy - Warren Zevon (articulate, musically adventurous, tempted to leave this out because of the Jackson Browne influence)
Lovesick, Broke and Driftin - Hank Williams III (harsh country album from a punk/country rebel)
Wish You were Here - Pink Floyd (more moving to me than Dark Side or Wall, not technically great, but one of my favorites)
John Prine - John Prine (Country/folk at its best without the distraction of Dylan)


Now there, Prowler, is a man who is clearly interested in music, as opposed to attempting to score cheap points off others.
Instead of wasting his time making snide criticisms, he's succintly expressed his love of music in a few lines.
I don't agree with his taste. Probably becuase it IS taste.
But nice one Curmodgeon, phrases like "Jersey boy tour de force" are what geeky music threads are all about! ;) :)
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby suggs on Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:59 pm

and yeah, Knopfler -great guitarist.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby heavycola on Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:47 pm

again suggsy i couldn;t agree more.

Also agree on appetite for destruction - it might be slightly silly longhair thrash, but it's far and away the best of its kind :D And slash can wield, no doubt.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby suggs on Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:09 pm

I agree more than you with nobs on so nah ;) :)
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby TheProwler on Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:22 pm

Gypsy, suggs, and HC...are you all are so self-absorbed that you missed my list on Page 6 of this thread?

It's been there for days...unedited.

I can understand one person missing it, but I fully expected suggs to direct HC to that post. But suggs got so defensive so quickly that nothing else mattered but to state what a well educated music fan he is.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby TheProwler on Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:31 pm

suggs wrote:
Curmudgeonx wrote:My Top Eleven (homage to Spinal Tap) (in no particular order)

Physical Graffiti - Led Zeppelin (double album epitomizing their entire career)
Alchemy - Dire Straits (live double album that expresses Knopfler's guitar skills)
Suffer - Bad Religion (tempted to put the All Ages album here)
American Idiot - Green Day (the state of american alt-punk rock, band will probably never live up to their potential)
Appetite for Destruction - Guns and Roses (hate 'em or love 'em, this album fucking rocks)
Lonesome Jubliee - John Mellencamp (so many to choose from, Uh-huh or Whenever We Wanted, but LJ is classic americana)
Born to Run - Springsteen (Jersey boy tour de force before patriotism of Born in USA made me want to barf)
Excitable Boy - Warren Zevon (articulate, musically adventurous, tempted to leave this out because of the Jackson Browne influence)
Lovesick, Broke and Driftin - Hank Williams III (harsh country album from a punk/country rebel)
Wish You were Here - Pink Floyd (more moving to me than Dark Side or Wall, not technically great, but one of my favorites)
John Prine - John Prine (Country/folk at its best without the distraction of Dylan)


Now there, Prowler, is a man who is clearly interested in music, as opposed to attempting to score cheap points off others.
Instead of wasting his time making snide criticisms, he's succintly expressed his love of music in a few lines.
I don't agree with his taste. Probably becuase it IS taste.
But nice one Curmodgeon, phrases like "Jersey boy tour de force" are what geeky music threads are all about! ;) :)


Haha...unfortunately he continued with "before patriotism of Born in USA made me want to barf" which demonstrated his total lack of understanding of the Born in the USA album.

Listen to the songs. Read the lyrics. It ain't tough.
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Re: Top 10 albums ever

Postby heavycola on Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:56 am

TheProwler wrote:Gypsy, suggs, and HC...are you all are so self-absorbed that you missed my list on Page 6 of this thread?

It's been there for days...unedited.

I can understand one person missing it, but I fully expected suggs to direct HC to that post. But suggs got so defensive so quickly that nothing else mattered but to state what a well educated music fan he is.


1) I missed it because i have you on ignore
2) You were the one who waded in here being a cock about your (disappointingly narrow) musical taste. Not Suggs. Anyway - back on ignore.
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