Peanutbutter or jelly?

[Snorri1234]

[lokisgal]

Its this kind of dribble that makes me embarrassed to be from the United States - I wont say American since that would apply to everyone from Canada, Greenland all of South and Central America and the Caribean but I suppose me saying that will horrify most of you and make you say I am "un American"
Wake up the world extends beyond our borders.
The fact is to many people from this country are subject to the influence of to few. Critical thinking skills are barely taught in our schools since we are to busy being taught what is on some stupid standardized test. Meanwhile the rest of the world is passing us by and our days as a world power are surely numbered unless people stop listening to bs propaganda and learn to research the facts - all of them not just one stupid link -and learn to think for themselves. The last time a country listened to false stories about religion and race we ended up with 11 million people dead.
And yeah Khaz perhaps we do deserve all those things - we rape the land of other countries and think we can impose our laws and religion and viewpoints on the rest of the world and we never give it a second thought. We place people in power because we dont like them only to have those we put there become our enimies when they out live their usefullness. Take a trip to any place in Europe all you who hail from here and find out what the rest of the world thinks of us. Even better take a trip to asia. The fact is we are hated by a lot of people because of what we do. There is nothing wrong with being a muslim , a jew , a christian - last time I checked they all have their roots in the same place. We would rather watch the police chase OJ simpson around in his car on every network rather than know what goes on out side of our own little world.
Being ignorant is not and excuse to spread stupid rumors - Fact is you are all scared of having a Black President. Its a day I never thought I would see in my life time and a time thats way over due
Get your racist heads out of your butts and do your home work -you keep posting the same link over and over - did it ever occur to you that there are just as many about McCain which are BS - its politics and manipulation at its finest and you've all fallen for it.
Whats wrong with being a muslim? Obama is not one but who cares - Separation of Church and State is one of the basic principles of the US. Would you have voted for Romney if he was the rep. nominee? I suppose none of you remember that the word God was added to the pledge of alligange and is not part of its original intent.

Long live propaganda long live the illusion of freedom long live hiding under the veil of ignorance!!!!

GO back to school and learn to think for yoursleves

[Dekloren]

Fantastic post.

Except the part about Obama. Same shit, same pile.

Ron Paul was the only real candidate.

People want change?

Bullshit.

[Napoleon Ier]

Barack Obama isn't a racist. However he is a backward lunatic with a comparable understanding of monetary policy to that of my nine year old sister. And "he'z teh black so he shud be prezidant" isn't a serious political motive forelecting him.

[DaGip]

Fantastic post.

Except the part about Obama. Same shit, same pile.

Ron Paul was the only real candidate.

People want change?

Bullshit.

I agree, Ron Paul was the best choice for President, however, the People decided not to listen to his message.

Still might write Ron Paul in when I go vote, hehe.

[unriggable]

Barack Obama isn't a racist. However he is a backward lunatic with a comparable understanding of monetary policy to that of my nine year old sister. And "he'z teh black so he shud be prezidant" isn't a serious political motive forelecting him.

That's not why people are voting for him...

He's a firm believer in what he does and I haven't heard of a case where he has flip flopped. Besides, even if you don't agree with his views, don't you think its time for a president who can speak well, who can stand their ground when talking to foreign leaders. I'm really sick of this shit:

[Napoleon Ier]

Barack Obama isn't a racist. However he is a backward lunatic with a comparable understanding of monetary policy to that of my nine year old sister. And "he'z teh black so he shud be prezidant" isn't a serious political motive forelecting him.

That's not why people are voting for him...

He's a firm believer in what he does and I haven't heard of a case where he has flip flopped. Besides, even if you don't agree with his views, don't you think its time for a president who can speak well, who can stand their ground when talking to foreign leaders. I'm really sick of this shit:

Speak well? What, by blathering like an idiot about "change" and "hope"?

Whilst his proposed doubling of the capital gains tax and $1000bn increase in spending on the brink of a recession cripples the US economy?

Oh, wait! No! All is saved! Obama has found a way to save American jobs using protectionnism! Yayz!!!111 F*ck Lerner Symmetry, let's tax everything that crosses the border. Apart from $55.000 costing Mexican immigrants!

[Elijah S]

Its this kind of dribble that makes me embarrassed to be from the United States - I wont say American since that would apply to everyone from Canada, Greenland all of South and Central America and the Caribean but I suppose me saying that will horrify most of you and make you say I am "un American"
Wake up the world extends beyond our borders.
The fact is to many people from this country are subject to the influence of to few. Critical thinking skills are barely taught in our schools since we are to busy being taught what is on some stupid standardized test. Meanwhile the rest of the world is passing us by and our days as a world power are surely numbered unless people stop listening to bs propaganda and learn to research the facts - all of them not just one stupid link -and learn to think for themselves. The last time a country listened to false stories about religion and race we ended up with 11 million people dead.
And yeah Khaz perhaps we do deserve all those things - we rape the land of other countries and think we can impose our laws and religion and viewpoints on the rest of the world and we never give it a second thought. We place people in power because we dont like them only to have those we put there become our enimies when they out live their usefullness. Take a trip to any place in Europe all you who hail from here and find out what the rest of the world thinks of us. We would rather watch the police chase OJ simpson around in his car on every network rather than know what goes on out side of our own little world.
Being ignorant is not and excuse to spread stupid rumors - Fact is you are all scared of having a Black President. Its a day I never thought I would see in my life time and a time thats way over due
Get your racist heads out of your butts and do your home work -you keep posting the same link over and over - did it ever occur to you that there are just as many about McCain which are BS - its politics and manipulation at its finest and you've all fallen for it

Long live propaganda long live the illusion of freedom

Well Lokisgal... It's a damned good thing we have you to do our thinking for us! After all, YOURS is the only opinion that really matters.

I posted a question and provided a link to Obama's church, ( http://www.TUCC.org ) which most of you refuse to check out before you defend a man who has literally done NOTHING for this country. -Maybe you've got your head so far up your ass that all you can see is your tonsils.

Let's try this one more time for those brain-dead, ultra-liberals who refuse to believe that racism is alive and well in the black community...
FACT - Obama attends TUCC.
FACT - The minister of TUCC is Rev. Jeremy Wright
FACT - Rev. Jeremy Wright is associated with Louis Farakhan. (If you don't know who that is you should probably research it)
FACT - On YouTube you can locate videos and audios of Rev. Wright's ramblings. -You'd be shocked at this man's disdain for this country and whites and how he stirs up his congregation into the same frenzy that Al Sharpton gets from his ramblings.
FACT - I was planning to vote for Obama before I read a few articles and watched a few vids of Obama's preacher. -Your line about being "afraid to have a Black President" is laughable; I think it's long overdue. I just don't happen to believe that a man who attends a Seperatist church should be President. -I'm sure David Duke must've seemed like a good guy at some point too.


BTW - I've been to several countries in Europe and am well-aware of the low-opinion most Europeans have of Americans, yet I have never been "embarrassed" to be American. -Every nation in the world has a dark side in their history and issues they prefer to sweep under the rug.
And you're right, most Americans would prefer to watch OJ get away with murder than learn about a foreign country. Pretty much the same as how you would prefer to label me and automatically give Obama a stamp of approval, rather than take 10 minutes to look into his associations.
-After all, it might dispell your illusion that Obama is somehow above reproach due solely to the color of his skin.

The way I see it, if you attend KKK meetings you're probably a Klansman.
If you attend a Seperatist church you're probably a Seperatist.

[Grooveman2007]

The way I see it, if you attend KKK meetings you're probably a Klansman.
If you attend a Seperatist church you're probably a Seperatist.

Or an undercover reporter.

[jecko7]

Elijah, you have not provided one single reason as to why Obama belonging to this church (http://www.TUCC.org) will negatively impact Americans at large. The American government has been giving aid to Africa for decades, and never has a president been accused of racism towards white people. I made this point many pages back, you apparently chose to ignore it in favor of posting http://www.TUCC.org again.

In case you missed that link, it's http://www.TUCC.org

If you can provide a scenario about how Obama's religion (http://www.TUCC.org) will adversely affect you, I'd love to hear it.

One more thing - STFU about http://www.TUCC.org. K?

Thanks.

[Napoleon Ier]

Elijah, you have not provided one single reason as to why Obama belonging to this church (http://www.TUCC.org) will negatively impact Americans at large. The American government has been giving aid to Africa for decades, and never has a president been accused of racism towards white people. I made this point many pages back, you apparently chose to ignore it in favor of posting http://www.TUCC.org again.

In case you missed that link, it's http://www.TUCC.org

If you can provide a scenario about how Obama's religion (http://www.TUCC.org) will adversely affect you, I'd love to hear it.

One more thing - STFU about http://www.TUCC.org. K?

Thanks.

No, but the nutcase wants to throw $800bn on Africa. Which will fund the various civil wars going on, inflate the dollar, and screw up the economy beyond measure as the US enters a recession.

[jecko7]

Nice to see the two neo-Confederates sticking up for white rights...

First of all, fund civil wars? There's been loads of scholarly books written on the subject, and the conclusion is that the civil wars would go on regardless of foreign aid. Do you think that Mugabe would wake up one day and go "huh. My people are starving and we have no money. I'd better stop killing people". No! Aid just means that fewer refugees die, and more people have food to eat and water to drink.

MOREOVER, the US has already chosen sides in these civil wars. Fund them? Sure, fund the side we want to win. Will there be conflict? Yes. It's Africa, there's always conflict, part of the aid Obama proposes is to heal people hurt by the conflict.

And, where's the threshold for this economy thing? How many billions have we dumped on Africa and we haven't seen any massive economic collapse? $555 billion passed recently in the House in the form of the Omnibus Spending Bill. Those racist bastards.

The economy is collapsing because of oil dependence, do you mean to tell me that if we cut off aid to Africa the economy will shoot up? There are so many alternate causalities for the recession, we had this coming to us. No way to avoid it, unless we find a cheap energy supply and some way to distribute wealth evenly.

Until then, there's no way in hell that electing a Republican is going to help the economy. Which is the alternative to Obama.

[lokisgal]

hmmm


well i would call quite a lot of "Christians" "Seperatists" as you spelled it


People did this same crap when Kennedy ran - OMG a Catholic in the white house will ruin the country - give me a break
Obama is not a" Seperatist"

OMG the sky is falling the sky is falling some one different than the norm is going to be president

[Napoleon Ier]

Yes...you're advocating a serious economic proposal: wealth re-distribustion halfway through a recession.

Oh, and

we haven't seen any massive economic collapse

Er...we will if you elect Obama, believe me.

[jecko7]

Yes...you're advocating a serious economic proposal: wealth re-distribustion halfway through a recession.

Oh, and

we haven't seen any massive economic collapse

Er...we will if you elect Obama, believe me.

Thank you, Napoleon the economist. I didn't think that there would be an economic collapse if Obama was elected, but now that you said "believe me", I'm voting for McCain, because Republicans always do a great job of keeping the national debt low and the economy high! Thanks for your great analysis on the sunject!

Seriously, this has been empirically denied for decades.

[Napoleon Ier]

Yes...you're advocating a serious economic proposal: wealth re-distribustion halfway through a recession.

Oh, and

we haven't seen any massive economic collapse

Er...we will if you elect Obama, believe me.

Thank you, Napoleon the economist. I didn't think that there would be an economic collapse if Obama was elected, but now that you said "believe me", I'm voting for McCain, because Republicans always do a great job of keeping the national debt low and the economy high! Thanks for your great analysis on the sunject!

Seriously, this has been empirically denied for decades.

Obama will raise taxes by over $1.3 trillion, and double capital gains tax, as well as continue to pursue the disastrous inflationnary policy the US has been leading for a long time now. Bush was an embarassment to the GOp, granted, and Reagan had no choice but to run a deficit to stand down Communism. But just look objectively at policy, not what prejudices you have had in the past concerning the Republicans: how can you possibly vote for a man who endorses protectionism, universally rejected by serious economists since 1936?

[Elijah S]

Elijah, you have not provided one single reason as to why Obama belonging to this church (http://www.TUCC.org) will negatively impact Americans at large. The American government has been giving aid to Africa for decades, and never has a president been accused of racism towards white people. I made this point many pages back, you apparently chose to ignore it in favor of posting http://www.TUCC.org again.

In case you missed that link, it's http://www.TUCC.org

If you can provide a scenario about how Obama's religion (http://www.TUCC.org) will adversely affect you, I'd love to hear it.

One more thing - STFU about http://www.TUCC.org. K?

Thanks.

No, but the nutcase wants to throw $800bn on Africa. Which will fund the various civil wars going on, inflate the dollar, and screw up the economy beyond measure as the US enters a recession.

Jecko - It's a matter of character. Would you elect David Duke for President? I'd guess not.
And yes, we've been funding Africa for decades while here at home we're facing the largest deficit in history, China (F**king CHINA) is investing in the United States to merely keep us, and essentially the World, from falling into a depression; homelessness increases daily; more and more jobs are offshored -but, by all means let's give it to Africa so they can continue their tribal bullshit, genocides, and feed the armies of various nations who are determined to be in a perpetual state of war.

And NO, I didn't ignore your question, I just don't have every waking moment of my life to spend reading some of the inane replies to this thread. -It's actually beginning to bore me. Guess it's time for another poll: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?

As for how Obama's religion (which is actually racism veiled behind a cross) would impact me directly...
#1) Economically. With the conditions already mentioned above, we cannot finance every warlord in need of a few more machete's with which to attack the local Zulu's or Hutu's. Nor can we continue to allow our economy to dwindle and stagnate to the point it's headed.
Obama's commitment to "The Motherland", as stated in his church's religious doctrine... ( http://www.TUCC.org ) is reason enough for concern.
The fact that he has actually ZERO budgeting background, coupled with his loyalty to blacks and Africa leaves him suspect of being a leader for ALL Americans.
#2) Morally. I don't care if he's black, white, green, purple or polka-dotted, he should be held to the same scrutiny anyone seeking the office is held to.
The notion that somehow the color of his skin relieves him of the same standards we expect of our leaders is hypocitical and essentially makes a mockery of the Civil Rights Movement in general. -"Equal" does not mean "Exempt"
If you took his church's doctrine and replaced the word "black" with "white" every time it appeared, and then associated Clinton or McCain with being a member of that organization, the NAACP, ACLU, and about 100 other groups would immediately make sure that candidate was drummed out of politics permanently. That's called "hypocricy" and frankly I think we've already got too many hypocrite, self-serving politicians.

As for "STFU about http://www.TUCC.org ?
Kiss my ass. I have every right to provide this link so that some of those who may be misinformed, such as yourself, can actually read for themselves the nature of this candidates religious associations.
Frankly, I don't think HE even knows if he's Muslim or Christian, but what I do know is that while I was initially going to vote for him, what I found at that site convinced me his main ambition will be to furthering only the agenda of the Black Community.

[Guiscard]

As for "STFU about http://www.TUCC.org ?
Kiss my ass. I have every right to provide this link so that some of those who may be misinformed, such as yourself, can actually read for themselves the nature of this candidates religious associations.
Frankly, I don't think HE even knows if he's Muslim or Christian, but what I do know is that while I was initially going to vote for him, what I found at that site convinced me his main ambition will be to furthering only the agenda of the Black Community.

And here lies your huge, gaping maw of a problem. How can you take it as gospel that he his committed to his church if he is secretly a Muslim, or a confused Muslim / Christian or whatever? In one sentence you say he will take his oath on the Koran, and in another that he is so totally and utterly committed to this Christian church that he's sold his soul to African aid... You can't have it both ways. You cannot assume things about his Church if you doubt his Christianity. Pick your criticism, please, so we can pick holes in it properly.

[jecko7]

Jecko - It's a matter of character. Would you elect David Duke for President? I'd guess not.

I wouldn't vote for David Duke because he ran on a racial segregation platform. If Obama wanted to make "black only" drinking fountains and make me sit in the back of the bus, than sure, I wouldn't vote for him, but I think it's foolish to compare Obama to a KKK leader.

And yes, we've been funding Africa for decades while here at home we're facing the largest deficit in history, China (F**king CHINA) is investing in the United States to merely keep us, and essentially the World, from falling into a depression; homelessness increases daily; more and more jobs are offshored -but, by all means let's give it to Africa so they can continue their tribal bullshit, genocides, and feed the armies of various nations who are determined to be in a perpetual state of war.

Yea, that damn tribal bullshit. So much for pride in your Cherokee roots, huh?

Moreover, offshored jobs are one of the reasons why the economy is collapsing. Cutting of aid to Africa will not stop illegal immigrants jumping over the border and stealing American jobs, nor will it help engineers whose jobs get contracted out to Bangladesh. Stop blaming aid to Africa for the many problems of the African economy.

And, like I said, the economy is collapsing whether you like it or not. Oil dependence is a big one, baby boomers retiring is another reason, but all in all Africa is a blip on the radar when it comes to the economy.

And NO, I didn't ignore your question, I just don't have every waking moment of my life to spend reading some of the inane replies to this thread. -It's actually beginning to bore me. Guess it's time for another poll: Is Obama the Anti-Christ?

What, being a neo-Confederate doesn't offer enough entertainment? Maybe you should hold an anti-African aid protest - that'd surely gain you some support.

#1) Economically. With the conditions already mentioned above, we cannot finance every warlord in need of a few more machete's with which to attack the local Zulu's or Hutu's. Nor can we continue to allow our economy to dwindle and stagnate to the point it's headed.
Obama's commitment to "The Motherland", as stated in his church's religious doctrine... ( http://www.TUCC.org ) is reason enough for concern.
The fact that he has actually ZERO budgeting background, coupled with his loyalty to blacks and Africa leaves him suspect of being a leader for ALL Americans.

There is no good reason why someone can't be loyal to blacks and whites. Obama is just increasing aid to Africa, nothing more. Tons of presidents before him did it, but they weren't critisized because they were white, or Christian, or in simpler terms, someone that couldn't possibly be accused of not being "loyal" to whites. You say that Obama's skin color doesn't matter - it does, at least to you. If a white president proposed an increase in foreign aid, what would you say? Because FYI, it's already happened.

#2) Morally. I don't care if he's black, white, green, purple or polka-dotted, he should be held to the same scrutiny anyone seeking the office is held to.
The notion that somehow the color of his skin relieves him of the same standards we expect of our leaders is hypocitical and essentially makes a mockery of the Civil Rights Movement in general. -"Equal" does not mean "Exempt"

He's not. JFK has been brought up tons of times in this thread, this is exactly what he went through. I believe he said something to the effect of "I'm not a Catholic candidate for President. I'm a Democratic candidate for president who happens to be Catholic".

If you took his church's doctrine and replaced the word "black" with "white" every time it appeared, and then associated Clinton or McCain with being a member of that organization, the NAACP, ACLU, and about 100 other groups would immediately make sure that candidate was drummed out of politics permanently. That's called "hypocricy" and frankly I think we've already got too many hypocrite, self-serving politicians.

Wrong. If you did that, someone would post a thread on it on here, and we'd have the same exact discussion in reverse.

As for "STFU about http://www.TUCC.org ?
Kiss my ass. I have every right to provide this link so that some of those who may be misinformed, such as yourself, can actually read for themselves the nature of this candidates religious associations.
Frankly, I don't think HE even knows if he's Muslim or Christian, but what I do know is that while I was initially going to vote for him, what I found at that site convinced me his main ambition will be to furthering only the agenda of the Black Community.

God forbid someone should "further the agenda of the black community". My point is that whenever someone makes an argument against you, in all of your posts your answer comes down to "I was going to vote for him, but then I went to http://www.TUCC.org, and now I realize the error of my ways. You should too". And frankly, it's redundant and everyone has already been to the damn site, stop posting it, you just reiterate its ideas in your posts anyway.

[Elijah S]

As for "STFU about http://www.TUCC.org ?
Kiss my ass. I have every right to provide this link so that some of those who may be misinformed, such as yourself, can actually read for themselves the nature of this candidates religious associations.
Frankly, I don't think HE even knows if he's Muslim or Christian, but what I do know is that while I was initially going to vote for him, what I found at that site convinced me his main ambition will be to furthering only the agenda of the Black Community.

And here lies your huge, gaping maw of a problem. How can you take it as gospel that he his committed to his church if he is secretly a Muslim, or a confused Muslim / Christian or whatever? In one sentence you say he will take his oath on the Koran, and in another that he is so totally and utterly committed to this Christian church that he's sold his soul to African aid... You can't have it both ways. You cannot assume things about his Church if you doubt his Christianity. Pick your criticism, please, so we can pick holes in it properly.

I personally believe he's a Muslim. Barack Hussein Obama. And that his attending a "Christian" church is merely a ploy to convince voters that he is in the mainstream in order to obtain the Presidency; However, of all the "Christian" churches he could attend, he selected one which voices loyalty to blacks and Africa. I think this says a lot about his character.

I noticed you avoid the valid arguments regarding if the shoe were on the other foot, and a white candidate attended a church with a similar dedication to Europe and the White Community.

It seems as though many people from other countries are eager to subscribe to the belief that racism in America is a one-way road, while you've probably never been here and tolerated the constant "in yo face" bullshit we encounter here on a daily basis.

Black on White crime is committed at a rate of 17 times more frequent than the reverse; Whites in Louisiana are having to file lawsuits to receive assistance after the devestation of Katrina, while a large % of blacks received more than they were entitled to... I could go on, but your narrow-minded perspective on things you truly know little of and have never encountered for yourself will only cause you to continue to defend Obama in an effort to dispute the veiled truths about his loyalties and associations.

[heavycola]

As for "STFU about http://www.TUCC.org ?
Kiss my ass. I have every right to provide this link so that some of those who may be misinformed, such as yourself, can actually read for themselves the nature of this candidates religious associations.
Frankly, I don't think HE even knows if he's Muslim or Christian, but what I do know is that while I was initially going to vote for him, what I found at that site convinced me his main ambition will be to furthering only the agenda of the Black Community.

And here lies your huge, gaping maw of a problem. How can you take it as gospel that he his committed to his church if he is secretly a Muslim, or a confused Muslim / Christian or whatever? In one sentence you say he will take his oath on the Koran, and in another that he is so totally and utterly committed to this Christian church that he's sold his soul to African aid... You can't have it both ways. You cannot assume things about his Church if you doubt his Christianity. Pick your criticism, please, so we can pick holes in it properly.

I personally believe he's a Muslim. Barack Hussein Obama. And that his attending a "Christian" church is merely a ploy to convince voters that he is in the mainstream in order to obtain the Presidency; However, of all the "Christian" churches he could attend, he selected one which voices loyalty to blacks and Africa. I think this says a lot about his character.

I noticed you avoid the valid arguments regarding if the shoe were on the other foot, and a white candidate attended a church with a similar dedication to Europe and the White Community.

It seems as though many people from other countries are eager to subscribe to the belief that racism in America is a one-way road, while you've probably never been here and tolerated the constant "in yo face" bullshit we encounter here on a daily basis.

Black on White crime is committed at a rate of 17 times more frequent than the reverse; Whites in Louisiana are having to file lawsuits to receive assistance after the devestation of Katrina, while a large % of blacks received more than they were entitled to... I could go on, but your narrow-minded perspective on things you truly know little of and have never encountered for yourself will only cause you to continue to defend Obama in an effort to dispute the veiled truths about his loyalties and associations.

If i turn my 50 Cent up loud enough i can just about drown this thread out. Peace.

[jecko7]

I cannot believe you ignored my whole long post answering every single thing you have said up to this point.

And you are truly an idiot if you believe that Obama is a Muslim. "Born to a Kenyan father and an American mother, he spent most of his childhood in Honolulu, Hawaii". There is no, I repeat, NO basis in ANY sort of reality WHATSOEVER for Obama being Muslim.

I think that Ron Paul is secretly a Scientologist because he has a 2 syllable name, like Tom Cruise. There, I used the same logic as you.

Oh, and I forgot to ask, what'll you do if Obama becomes president? SECEDE?

[Suzy1]

Lokisgal,
It is as I said before, we all have opinions, some different than others. You seem to have alot to say. I only said what I said in here because I think it is ridiculous that all Elijah asked was a question, whether people think Obama is a racist or not and it turned into mass chaos pointing a finger at him as a racist, even KKK?...rolling my eyes... You can say you are from the US or BF Egypt for all I care. I was born here and am proud to be American. As for as your statement about, being afraid of having a black president, you couldn't be further from the truth. If a man of stature such as Colin Powell ran, I would be first in line to vote. However, I honestly don't think he will win, not because of his color but for fact that his resume wouldn't qualify him to be the best one out of the choices we have. My opinion, I think he is a smooth talker with great people repoire, nothing more! I only hope that whoever does become president turns things around in this country for everyone.

[DaGip]

Mission Statement: What Trinity Is About

Trinity United Church of Christ has been called by God to be a congregation that is not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ and that does not apologize for its African roots! As a congregation of baptized believers, we are called to be agents of liberation not only for the oppressed, but for all of God’s family. We, as a church family, acknowledge, that we will, building on this affirmation of "who we are" and "whose we are," call men, women, boys and girls to the liberating love of Jesus Christ, inviting them to become a part of the church universal, responding to Jesus’ command that we go into all the world and make disciples!

We are called out to be "a chosen people" that pays no attention to socio-economic or educational backgrounds. We are made up of the highly educated and the uneducated. Our congregation is a combination of the haves and the have-nots; the economically disadvantaged, the under-class, the unemployed and the employable.

The fortunate who are among us combine forces with the less fortunate to become agents of change for God who is not pleased with America’s economic mal-distribution!

W.E.B. DuBois indicated that the problem in the 20th century was going to be the problem of the color line. He was absolutely correct. Our job as servants of God is to address that problem and eradicate it in the name of Him who came for the whole world by calling all men, women, boys and girls to Christ.

Hope this clears up this whole racist issue. Here, if you still think Obama and his church is racist and doesn't welcome whites into their church, go here and you can watch their sermons LIVE! So don't feel like you are being left out, because you are not. You and all people races and creeds are welcome to attend Trinity United Church of Christ!

Trinity United Church of Christ LIVE! Broadcast

And I am going to become an online member of the Trinity Church. That way you will really know that this congregation is not an racist organization. Their concerns are for their black community, whom needs great help. Drugs and Alcohol is a problem in the black community, as well as education! Obama is well suited for President of these United States because HE OVERCAME the drugs! HE OVERCAME the seduction of alcohol! HE OVERCAME and refused to believe that he would NOT succeed! Obama has the courage to stand up to oppression, not to tag along with it! If he helps BLACK AMERICANS, then let it be known that he helps ALL AMERICANS! There cannot be Liberation without Salvation. These two concepts go hand in hand. Obama voted against the Iraq war, because of his GOD given wisdom and forsight to do so. Obama gets more of a consideration than McCain. Your potentially racist thread has no affect on my decision.

Obama for President!

[SolidLuigi]

Mission Statement: What Trinity Is About

Trinity United Church of Christ has been called by God to be a congregation that is not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ and that does not apologize for its African roots! As a congregation of baptized believers, we are called to be agents of liberation not only for the oppressed, but for all of God’s family. We, as a church family, acknowledge, that we will, building on this affirmation of "who we are" and "whose we are," call men, women, boys and girls to the liberating love of Jesus Christ, inviting them to become a part of the church universal, responding to Jesus’ command that we go into all the world and make disciples!

We are called out to be "a chosen people" that pays no attention to socio-economic or educational backgrounds. We are made up of the highly educated and the uneducated. Our congregation is a combination of the haves and the have-nots; the economically disadvantaged, the under-class, the unemployed and the employable.

The fortunate who are among us combine forces with the less fortunate to become agents of change for God who is not pleased with America’s economic mal-distribution!

W.E.B. DuBois indicated that the problem in the 20th century was going to be the problem of the color line. He was absolutely correct. Our job as servants of God is to address that problem and eradicate it in the name of Him who came for the whole world by calling all men, women, boys and girls to Christ.

Hope this clears up this whole racist issue. Here, if you still think Obama and his church is racist and doesn't welcome whites into their church, go here and you can watch their sermons LIVE! So don't feel like you are being left out, because you are not. You and all people races and creeds are welcome to attend Trinity United Church of Christ!

Trinity United Church of Christ LIVE! Broadcast

And I am going to become an online member of the Trinity Church. That way you will really know that this congregation is not an racist organization. Their concerns are for their black community, whom needs great help. Drugs and Alcohol is a problem in the black community, as well as education! Obama is well suited for President of these United States because HE OVERCAME the drugs! HE OVERCAME the seduction of alcohol! HE OVERCAME and refused to believe that he would NOT succeed! Obama has the courage to stand up to oppression, not to tag along with it! If he helps BLACK AMERICANS, then let it be known that he helps ALL AMERICANS! There cannot be Liberation without Salvation. These two concepts go hand in hand. Obama voted against the Iraq war, because of his GOD given wisdom and forsight to do so. Obama gets more of a consideration than McCain. Your potentially racist thread has no affect on my decision.

Obama for President!

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