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Postby Frigidus on Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:30 am

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unriggable wrote:I have nothing to say, absolutely no proof of the contrary so I'll show them my colorful use of the English language in hopes of distracting jay from the topic





:shock:


I'd bet any amount of money that we won't have National ID Cards with GPS in 25 years, in the same way I'd bet any amount of money that the Mayans were wrong on the whole world ending in 2012 thing. I swear, sometimes I wonder where people come up with this stuff...
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Postby jay_a2j on Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:36 am

Frigidus wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:I have nothing to say, absolutely no proof of the contrary so I'll show them my colorful use of the English language in hopes of distracting jay from the topic





:shock:


I'd bet any amount of money that we won't have National ID Cards with GPS in 25 years, in the same way I'd bet any amount of money that the Mayans were wrong on the whole world ending in 2012 thing. I swear, sometimes I wonder where people come up with this stuff...



I'd gladly take that bet, although I would hope to lose it. The fact is ...its already in motion. A National ID card is already in the works. The EU is in the same boat..... all commerce controlled by one man..... one world government..... its coming..... and it has all been foreseen in Revelation.
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Postby Skittles! on Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:00 am

jay_a2j wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:I have nothing to say, absolutely no proof of the contrary so I'll show them my colorful use of the English language in hopes of distracting jay from the topic





:shock:


I'd bet any amount of money that we won't have National ID Cards with GPS in 25 years, in the same way I'd bet any amount of money that the Mayans were wrong on the whole world ending in 2012 thing. I swear, sometimes I wonder where people come up with this stuff...



I'd gladly take that bet, although I would hope to lose it. The fact is ...its already in motion. A National ID card is already in the works. The EU is in the same boat..... all commerce controlled by one man..... one world government..... its coming..... and it has all been foreseen in Revelation.

A national ID card is of course already in motion, seeming we do have driver's license, bank cards, passports, etc. etc.

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Postby comic boy on Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:41 am

jay_a2j wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:I have nothing to say, absolutely no proof of the contrary so I'll show them my colorful use of the English language in hopes of distracting jay from the topic





:shock:


I'd bet any amount of money that we won't have National ID Cards with GPS in 25 years, in the same way I'd bet any amount of money that the Mayans were wrong on the whole world ending in 2012 thing. I swear, sometimes I wonder where people come up with this stuff...


I'd gladly take that bet, although I would hope to lose it. The fact is ...its already in motion. A National ID card is already in the works. The EU is in the same boat..... all commerce controlled by one man..... one world government..... its coming..... and it has all been foreseen in Revelation.


You gonna take my bet that Big Ron dont win the primary :D
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Postby unriggable on Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:23 am

jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:I have nothing to say, absolutely no proof of the contrary so I'll show them my colorful use of the English language in hopes of distracting jay from the topic





:shock:


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Postby DaGip on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:39 pm

unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:I have nothing to say, absolutely no proof of the contrary so I'll show them my colorful use of the English language in hopes of distracting jay from the topic





:shock:


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Postby Backglass on Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:11 pm

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Backglass wrote:Please give us a reputable link explaining this national ID card containing a GPS tracking device.




For those who don't have access to Google CLICK HERE!


:roll:

or HERE


or here


or here



:roll: :roll: :roll: STOP BEING LAZY!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:



Oh, and here is a youtube video for all you "conspiracy nuts". :roll:



You are an idiot. You don't even READ the bullshit that you post! If you are going to make bogus claims, back it up.

To remind you of your own rantings...you said:
jay_a2j wrote:
1. He is against the National ID card. (I don't want to give up any more of my freedoms...and this card will have GPS)

Now...for those of you with no access to their own brain:
  • Link 1 - (Epic.org) - No mention of GPS, hence NO satellite tracking.
  • Link 2 - (News.com) No mention of GPS, hence NO satellite tracking.
  • Link 3 - (Wired.com) - No mention of GPS, hence NO satellite tracking.
  • Link 4 - (Time.com) No mention of GPS, hence NO satellite tracking.

:lol::lol::lol: STOP BEING A PARANOID LEMMING!!!!! :lol::lol::lol:


Nice try. I suspect that your tiny little brain has confused RFID with GPS which is like comparing iPods to Toasters. No surprise really.

Smoke a few extra cigarettes and pray harder for guidance before you post next time please. ;)
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Postby jay_a2j on Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:16 pm

Backglass wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Backglass wrote:Please give us a reputable link explaining this national ID card containing a GPS tracking device.




For those who don't have access to Google CLICK HERE!


:roll:

or HERE


or here


or here



:roll: :roll: :roll: STOP BEING LAZY!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:



Oh, and here is a youtube video for all you "conspiracy nuts". :roll:



You are an idiot. You don't even READ the bullshit that you post! If you are going to make bogus claims, back it up.

To remind you of your own rantings...you said:
jay_a2j wrote:
1. He is against the National ID card. (I don't want to give up any more of my freedoms...and this card will have GPS)

Now...for those of you with no access to their own brain:
  • Link 1 - (Epic.org) - No mention of GPS, hence NO satellite tracking.
  • Link 2 - (News.com) No mention of GPS, hence NO satellite tracking.
  • Link 3 - (Wired.com) - No mention of GPS, hence NO satellite tracking.
  • Link 4 - (Time.com) No mention of GPS, hence NO satellite tracking.
:lol::lol::lol: STOP BEING A PARANOID LEMMING!!!!! :lol::lol::lol:


Nice try. I suspect that your tiny little brain has confused RFID with GPS which is like comparing iPods to Toasters. No surprise really.

Smoke a few extra cigarettes and pray harder for guidance before you post next time please. ;)





From link #2:


"The U.S. State Department soon will begin issuing passports with radio frequency identification, or RFID, chips embedded in them, and Virginia may become the first state to glue RFID tags into all its driver's licenses."



Maybe you should get some reading glasses backglass.
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Postby Guiscard on Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:12 am

jay_a2j wrote:From link #2:


"The U.S. State Department soon will begin issuing passports with radio frequency identification, or RFID, chips embedded in them, and Virginia may become the first state to glue RFID tags into all its driver's licenses."



Maybe you should get some reading glasses backglass.


You do realise that RFID is entirely different from GPS, right? As in, not satellite tracking?
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Postby Backglass on Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:44 pm

Guiscard wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:From link #2:


"The U.S. State Department soon will begin issuing passports with radio frequency identification, or RFID, chips embedded in them, and Virginia may become the first state to glue RFID tags into all its driver's licenses."



Maybe you should get some reading glasses backglass.


You do realise that RFID is entirely different from GPS, right? As in, not satellite tracking?


No...it is painfully is obvious he doesn't...even after having it explained & pointed out to him in the first post.

He reads, but evidently cannot comprehend. :roll:

Guiscard: Perhaps you could make a YouTube conspiracy video explaining the differences, fake a voice coming from a burning bush or have a graphic emblazed on a grilled cheese sandwich.

Then he might actually pay attention. :lol:
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Postby DaGip on Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:02 am

Ron Paul Can Win! :D
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Postby CoffeeCream on Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:04 am

Guiscard wrote:You do realise that RFID is entirely different from GPS, right? As in, not satellite tracking?


Is that the only difference? I don't know hardly anything about tracking systems.
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Postby Backglass on Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:34 am

CoffeeCream wrote:
Guiscard wrote:You do realise that RFID is entirely different from GPS, right? As in, not satellite tracking?


Is that the only difference? I don't know hardly anything about tracking systems.


RFID and GPS are night and day and have nothing to do with each other.

Anyone saying that RFID is someone akin to big brother watching your every move doesn't have a clue about either technology.
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Postby OnlyAmbrose on Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:40 am

Be that as it may, I don't really like the idea of RFID, simply because they're a violation of constitutional rights. You can't just walk up and demand ID from someone. RFID lets you do that, often without even letting the person know that they've been ID'ed.
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Postby DaGip on Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:13 pm

OnlyAmbrose wrote:Be that as it may, I don't really like the idea of RFID, simply because they're a violation of constitutional rights. You can't just walk up and demand ID from someone. RFID lets you do that, often without even letting the person know that they've been ID'ed.


yep, I concur...and Ron Paul can win!
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Postby unriggable on Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:07 pm

DaGip wrote:
OnlyAmbrose wrote:Be that as it may, I don't really like the idea of RFID, simply because they're a violation of constitutional rights. You can't just walk up and demand ID from someone. RFID lets you do that, often without even letting the person know that they've been ID'ed.


yep, I concur...and Ron Paul can win!


Oh the naive...
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Postby Backglass on Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:10 pm

OnlyAmbrose wrote:Be that as it may, I don't really like the idea of RFID, simply because they're a violation of constitutional rights. You can't just walk up and demand ID from someone. RFID lets you do that, often without even letting the person know that they've been ID'ed.


I do understand your argument. It's when people start extending RFID tags beyond their capabilities that I shake my head. Claiming that the government can track your RFID tagged documents every move via satellite for example. :lol:

If you are so inclined, RFID tags are very easily disabled. Wrap it in foil, (Hat jokes anyone? ;)) or simply smack it with a hammer.

Presto! No more RFID tag.

Just be prepared for extra scrutiny as the whole point of RFID tags, in passports for example, is to help weed out forgeries and speed the customs & immigration process. Anyone who has stood in line at ATL, JFK or LAX as I have would welcome a "fast (RFID) line".
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:10 pm

unriggable wrote:
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OnlyAmbrose wrote:Be that as it may, I don't really like the idea of RFID, simply because they're a violation of constitutional rights. You can't just walk up and demand ID from someone. RFID lets you do that, often without even letting the person know that they've been ID'ed.


yep, I concur...and Ron Paul can win!


Oh the naive...



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Postby MeDeFe on Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:12 pm

If I have to have RFID chips in any cards I'll start wrapping them in tinfoil. Conspiracy ftw.
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Postby Backglass on Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:26 pm

MeDeFe wrote:If I have to have RFID chips in any cards I'll start wrapping them in tinfoil. Conspiracy ftw.


All new passports now have them. Mine does...and I don't care as I do not fear new technology. ;)

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Postby unriggable on Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:29 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:
DaGip wrote:
OnlyAmbrose wrote:Be that as it may, I don't really like the idea of RFID, simply because they're a violation of constitutional rights. You can't just walk up and demand ID from someone. RFID lets you do that, often without even letting the person know that they've been ID'ed.


yep, I concur...and Ron Paul can win!


Oh the naive...



Oh the future FEMA camp prison guard...


Oh come on. I would think Ron could win based on his popularity, but its the internet, which is nationally, meaning it is evenly spread over the country. Not enough people based in a single state to win the primary. Sure he's a good candidate, but when it comes to choosing a good president, you've got to think of it like sour grapes.
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:27 pm

Backglass wrote: as I do not fear new technology. ;)




Oh, you will....
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Postby unriggable on Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:29 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
Backglass wrote: as I do not fear new technology. ;)




Oh, you will....


Don't you support the $460 billion military budget in the US? What the hell are you talking about now?
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:35 pm

unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Backglass wrote: as I do not fear new technology. ;)




Oh, you will....


Don't you support the $460 billion military budget in the US? What the hell are you talking about now?



I'm talking about the assault on our freedoms being waged in this country. Big Brother is getting ENORMOUS and the "sheeple" say, "For our safety we will give up liberty!". And I say, you will become slaves of the state. Look beyond the news..... read a book, many have been written describing the future of the USA and its not good.
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Postby unriggable on Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:42 pm

jay_a2j wrote:I'm talking about the assault on our freedoms being waged in this country. Big Brother is getting ENORMOUS and the "sheeple" say, "For our safety we will give up liberty!". And I say, you will become slaves of the state. Look beyond the news..... read a book, many have been written describing the future of the USA and its not good.


There are more than enough quotes of you supporting the war on terror, namely the pat act, so stop flipflopping. You think you've opened your eyes but you've only shut them again.
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