American teams calling themselves world champions...

[Guiscard]

France isnt red white and blue i mean common that was good showing some pride in my country

How fucking stupid are you?

The tricolore, flag adopted after the frenchrevolution,ha the colours blue, white and red representing the three ideals liberty, equalityand brothergood, the slogan of the revolution.

really? i was under the impression that the flag was originally blue and red, but the white was put in because it was the king's final wish before they lopped his head off...

The whole liberty, equality and brotherhood thing is fairly bunk. The colours had been associated with France for centuries. White is the heraldic representation of Gold, and as such represented the monarchy. Red and Blue where representative of the city of Paris. The revolutionaries just used these colours, as well as just blue and red or simply red, as symbols and flags and, after the revolution, it was declared the official flag of the republic.

[mr. incrediball]

France isnt red white and blue i mean common that was good showing some pride in my country

How fucking stupid are you?

The tricolore, flag adopted after the frenchrevolution,ha the colours blue, white and red representing the three ideals liberty, equalityand brothergood, the slogan of the revolution.

really? i was under the impression that the flag was originally blue and red, but the white was put in because it was the king's final wish before they lopped his head off...

The whole liberty, equality and brotherhood thing is fairly bunk. The colours had been associated with France for centuries. White is the heraldic representation of Gold, and as such represented the monarchy. Red and Blue where representative of the city of Paris. The revolutionaries just used these colours, as well as just blue and red or simply red, as symbols and flags and, after the revolution, it was declared the official flag of the republic.

so nobody really knows what le tricolore means... still, no denying it's a catchy flag... almost as catchy as the union flag

[Guiscard]

France isnt red white and blue i mean common that was good showing some pride in my country

How fucking stupid are you?

The tricolore, flag adopted after the frenchrevolution,ha the colours blue, white and red representing the three ideals liberty, equalityand brothergood, the slogan of the revolution.

really? i was under the impression that the flag was originally blue and red, but the white was put in because it was the king's final wish before they lopped his head off...

The whole liberty, equality and brotherhood thing is fairly bunk. The colours had been associated with France for centuries. White is the heraldic representation of Gold, and as such represented the monarchy. Red and Blue where representative of the city of Paris. The revolutionaries just used these colours, as well as just blue and red or simply red, as symbols and flags and, after the revolution, it was declared the official flag of the republic.

so nobody really knows what le tricolore means... still, no denying it's a catchy flag... almost as catchy as the union flag

[Lucky Se7en]

If you think about it, for baseball & football & other sports like that, you really are world champions if you win a championship. I'll use the MLB for an example. The game is huge in America, Japan & South America, and look how many people who played for those countries are in America now. The MLB has scouts all over the world who judge players in Japan & South America. If they think they can compete in America the player is offered millions of dollars. Just think of 2 of the biggest Japanese players, Ichiro & Daisuke Matsuzaka, they were extremely successful in Japan, but then they were offered millions of dollars & now they play in America. In South America it is a dream a lot of kids have to be discovered by an MLB team & to play in America with the best ball players in the world while being able to support their families. I highly doubt the best soccer team in America calls themselves world champions though.

[Anarkistsdream]

France isnt red white and blue i mean common that was good showing some pride in my country

How fucking stupid are you?

The tricolore, flag adopted after the frenchrevolution,ha the colours blue, white and red representing the three ideals liberty, equalityand brothergood, the slogan of the revolution.

really? i was under the impression that the flag was originally blue and red, but the white was put in because it was the king's final wish before they lopped his head off...

The whole liberty, equality and brotherhood thing is fairly bunk. The colours had been associated with France for centuries. White is the heraldic representation of Gold, and as such represented the monarchy. Red and Blue where representative of the city of Paris. The revolutionaries just used these colours, as well as just blue and red or simply red, as symbols and flags and, after the revolution, it was declared the official flag of the republic.

so nobody really knows what le tricolore means... still, no denying it's a catchy flag... almost as catchy as the union flag

I explained it three fucking times in this thread, people... Way to read....

[GreecePwns]

If you think about it, for baseball & football & other sports like that, you really are world champions if you win a championship. I'll use the MLB for an example. The game is huge in America, Japan & South America, and look how many people who played for those countries are in America now. The MLB has scouts all over the world who judge players in Japan & South America. If they think they can compete in America the player is offered millions of dollars. Just think of 2 of the biggest Japanese players, Ichiro & Daisuke Matsuzaka, they were extremely successful in Japan, but then they were offered millions of dollars & now they play in America. In South America it is a dream a lot of kids have to be discovered by an MLB team & to play in America with the best ball players in the world while being able to support their families. I highly doubt the best soccer team in America calls themselves world champions though.

So if I'm correct, you are saying that since the best players play in MLB, the winner of that league shouldn't have to play teams from other countries to prove their worth. Well, when offered they should at least accept and not say "Hey, we're the best in the world, and all you smaller countries can't do anything about it." If you look at the 1st post, that's exactly what happens in the NBA.

[Frigidus]

France isnt red white and blue i mean common that was good showing some pride in my country

How fucking stupid are you?

The tricolore, flag adopted after the frenchrevolution,ha the colours blue, white and red representing the three ideals liberty, equalityand brothergood, the slogan of the revolution.

really? i was under the impression that the flag was originally blue and red, but the white was put in because it was the king's final wish before they lopped his head off...

The whole liberty, equality and brotherhood thing is fairly bunk. The colours had been associated with France for centuries. White is the heraldic representation of Gold, and as such represented the monarchy. Red and Blue where representative of the city of Paris. The revolutionaries just used these colours, as well as just blue and red or simply red, as symbols and flags and, after the revolution, it was declared the official flag of the republic.

so nobody really knows what le tricolore means... still, no denying it's a catchy flag... almost as catchy as the union flag

I explained it three fucking times in this thread, people... Way to read....

While the original usage of the colors may date back to Charlemagne, I don't think that people associate the same meaning with the flags at this point. The colors stick but the interpretation changes.

[Snorri1234]

If you think about it, for baseball & football & other sports like that, you really are world champions if you win a championship. I'll use the MLB for an example. The game is huge in America, Japan & South America, and look how many people who played for those countries are in America now. The MLB has scouts all over the world who judge players in Japan & South America. If they think they can compete in America the player is offered millions of dollars. Just think of 2 of the biggest Japanese players, Ichiro & Daisuke Matsuzaka, they were extremely successful in Japan, but then they were offered millions of dollars & now they play in America. In South America it is a dream a lot of kids have to be discovered by an MLB team & to play in America with the best ball players in the world while being able to support their families. I highly doubt the best soccer team in America calls themselves world champions though.

So because America has more money, they have better players? World championships don't deal with clubs, they deal with countries. So those good japanese players would still play for Japan.

[Iliad]

soundout let me be the one-hundredth person to call you a brainwashed cunt.
(No flaming, just an annnouncement)

[Iliad]

just re-read the thread. Holy shit is this thread too stupid and funny to believe!

[Nickbaldwin]

The MLB has scouts all over the world who judge players in Japan & South America. If they think they can compete in America

Just picking this out.

South American players already compete in America, hence being South AMERICAN.

That is all.

[MeDeFe]

Wait, so USAmerican teams look for good players in foreign countries, offer them a heap of money if they want to come and play in the US and A. So far so good.


Are these then the same US teams that call themselves world champions if they win a national tournament?

[Titanic]

USA USA USA

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hm... ok...

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I gotta give it to you incrediball, that is really cool. Gj.

[Nickbaldwin]

Wheres he gone now? I made a thread for him and everything.

I'm hurt

[ogr8cdd]

Rugby- is cool alright all give you that we dont have a rugby team and we should
Soccer- is gay but we can still beat every1 at it
Tennis- haha we've won wimmbleton how many times? ya suck it
American football-well the name applys AMERICAN so if anyone else had a team we would beat the snot out of em

what other sports are there?

Rugby - you're only saying that because the football that uses a watermelon shaped sh*t was taken from it (keeping it out of flame wars)
Football (fixed) - Is not gay or 99% of the world would not be playing at it, and you lost 3-0 to Ghana so that proves you're wrong.
Tennis - US Tennis is terrible, Andy Roddick is a joke, get over it.
Football that uses a watermelon shaped sh*t - Because no one else likes the sport of 300 pound guys wit 100 pounds of pads jumping on eachother. It's just team sumo wrestling with a "ball"

I know we are suppose to be moving on, but as for Rugby, Did NO ONE notice USA had a team in the Rugby World cup, that finished this past weekend. Well the tournament finished this past weekend, USA's rugby team finished at least about 3 weeks ago. Never-the-less they had a team that they entered.

[Frigidus]

Let me tell you, this irritates me the most of all in American sports. When you win a game that is only played in America, you can't call yourselves "World Champions." And the "World Series" is played in the US (and once every 20 years in Toronto.)

Especially in basketball, which is played in Europe and Asia (mostly) as well, you can't call yourselves world champs. Especially when you refuse to play European clubs in real competition.
Discuss.

Also, now that I think about it, while baseball does have the World Series, I wasn't aware that we became world champions in any other sports. We have the Super Bowl for (American) Football, the Stanley Cup Finals for hockey, the NBA Finals for Basketball...to be honest I don't watch any other sports, but I don't think we declare ourselves world champions in anything. I apologize in advance if I'm totally off the ball on this.

[Guiscard]

I explained it three fucking times in this thread, people... Way to read....

That was the first time on record the colours appeared in combination, it wasn't seen as a national symbol differentiated from other standard heraldic colours for centuries after that. We can all go look at wikipedia and quote the first mention it gives. Way to research....

The first time it actually appeared as a national symbol was, I believe, with the Marquis de Lafayette in 1789. The White for the monarchy (not yet deposed), and the red and blue for Paris. It was used first as an official navy flag from 1790. Before this, the national flag was three fleur-de-lis on a blue background which, I think, DOES date from the time of Charlemagne.

[TheTheft]

Are these then the same US teams that call themselves world champions if they win a national tournament?

are you a dumbass thats what this thread is about, people have been saying, and what people who can read and function in society have written

and we do not call ourselves world champions in baseball its called the "world cup" obviosly we didnt win the world cup as it is two teams from the U.S. competing against each other

[Guiscard]

and we do not call ourselves world champions in baseball

its called the "world cup"

obviosly we didnt win the world cup

as it is two teams from the U.S. competing against each other

Make sense ever?

[GreecePwns]

Are these then the same US teams that call themselves world champions if they win a national tournament?

are you a dumbass thats what this thread is about, people have been saying, and what people who can read and function in society have written

and we do not call ourselves world champions in baseball its called the "world cup" obviosly we didnt win the world cup as it is two teams from the U.S. competing against each other

In baseball it's called the "World Series"...you can't get more "World Champion" then that.

"We won the world series, because we beat the Toronto team and the other 28 American teams."

What a joke.

[unriggable]

Are these then the same US teams that call themselves world champions if they win a national tournament?

are you a dumbass thats what this thread is about, people have been saying, and what people who can read and function in society have written

and we do not call ourselves world champions in baseball its called the "world cup" obviosly we didnt win the world cup as it is two teams from the U.S. competing against each other

Uh, WHAT.

[Titanic]

Are these then the same US teams that call themselves world champions if they win a national tournament?

are you a dumbass thats what this thread is about, people have been saying, and what people who can read and function in society have written

and we do not call ourselves world champions in baseball its called the "world cup" obviosly we didnt win the world cup as it is two teams from the U.S. competing against each other

Uh, WHAT.

QFT.

[GreecePwns]

Are these then the same US teams that call themselves world champions if they win a national tournament?

are you a dumbass thats what this thread is about, people have been saying, and what people who can read and function in society have written

and we do not call ourselves world champions in baseball its called the "world cup" obviosly we didnt win the world cup as it is two teams from the U.S. competing against each other

In baseball it's called the "World Series"...you can't get more "World Champion" then that.

"We won the world series, because we beat the Toronto team and the other 28 American teams."

What a joke.

Just get this out of it. He mistook world cup with world series, or is brainwashed that the US has any chance at world cup within the next 50 years.

[MeDeFe]

Are these then the same US teams that call themselves world champions if they win a national tournament?

are you a dumbass thats what this thread is about, people have been saying, and what people who can read and function in society have written

and we do not call ourselves world champions in baseball its called the "world cup" obviosly we didnt win the world cup as it is two teams from the U.S. competing against each other

I'm asking because more and more sports were introduced throughout the thread and I don't know if they all play some world cups, series, leagues whatever that are then more or less strictly intra-american or even intra-USamerican.

If you aren't even able to answer a simple question I really have to wonder whether you're a stupid arse or a mute donkey.

[Iliad]

Are these then the same US teams that call themselves world champions if they win a national tournament?

are you a dumbass thats what this thread is about, people have been saying, and what people who can read and function in society have written

and we do not call ourselves world champions in baseball its called the "world cup" obviosly we didnt win the world cup as it is two teams from the U.S. competing against each other

Uh, WHAT.

QFT.