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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:20 am

Who knows, Joe Biden *could* be the 46th President in 2024. Anything is possible, I suppose.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby Challenger007 on Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:12 am

BoganGod wrote:
betiko wrote:
KoolBak wrote:Go eat a baguette, Frenchie!! Good thing you're not voting :D


I live in spain and they have very poor baguettes here unfortunately! I could totally eat a good croissant too... unfortunately they are incapable of doing that here either.
I might not vote, but I've got a couple of american cousins, aunt and uncle that will cast at least 4 votes for Joey. They are also very active on social media to avoid the trump pest back. But we alll know it's game over for the filterless egomaniac senile racist vain lust addict cheese burger in bed eating tweeting-happy selfish nepotistic mysogin corrupt russian spy


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And if no kidding. How much do you believe in an honest election result? I just don't know if falsification is possible right now. Is there a higher chance of falsification now than it was in the last elections, for example. I am afraid that against the background of the coronavirus disorder, something illegal will not happen.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby betiko on Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:33 pm

congrats Biden!!!

4 more years! 4 more years!!!!
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby armati on Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:50 pm

If Biden wins odds are we get a new war and most likely massive dollar printing.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:01 pm

armati wrote:If Biden wins odds are we get a new war and most likely massive dollar printing.


Expect at least 50,000 dead in some 3rd world country by end of next year.

A Biden victory would be a loss for Iraq

Directly after taking office, President Obama appointed Vice President Biden to oversee U.S. operations and diplomacy in Iraq. At that time, Iraq had begun to stabilize. The once-formidable al Qaeda in Iraq had been all but defeated and relegated to the outskirts of Mosul and civilian deaths fell to about one-fourth of what they had been before the “surge.”

But by the end of the vice president’s first term, civilian casualties in Iraq rose by almost 400 percent to over 20,000, and ISIS (a.k.a. ISIL, IS, Daesh) flew its black flag from Syria through northern Iraq to a point about 60 miles outside of Baghdad.

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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby Doc_Brown on Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:26 pm

After all the questions and concerns about whether Trump would commit to a peaceful transfer of power and discourage his followers from violence if he lost the election, it was perhaps not so surprising to hear that businesses were boarding up in advance of the election:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... y-protests
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... stay-safe/

However, it's rather interesting to note where the boarding up is occurring. San Francisco, Boston, New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc... These are all strongholds for Biden, not for Trump. Ignoring all the rhetoric from a few weeks ago, it seems that the business owners who are being proactive are far more worried about destruction caused by Biden supporters than by Trump supporters.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby riskllama on Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:41 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
armati wrote:If Biden wins odds are we get a new war and most likely massive dollar printing.


Expect at least 50,000 dead in some 3rd world country by end of next year.

A Biden victory would be a loss for Iraq

Directly after taking office, President Obama appointed Vice President Biden to oversee U.S. operations and diplomacy in Iraq. At that time, Iraq had begun to stabilize. The once-formidable al Qaeda in Iraq had been all but defeated and relegated to the outskirts of Mosul and civilian deaths fell to about one-fourth of what they had been before the “surge.”

But by the end of the vice president’s first term, civilian casualties in Iraq rose by almost 400 percent to over 20,000, and ISIS (a.k.a. ISIL, IS, Daesh) flew its black flag from Syria through northern Iraq to a point about 60 miles outside of Baghdad.

https://thehill.com/opinion/internation ... s-for-iraq


'murica, perhaps? i mean if shit really kicks off, ofc...
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:20 pm

Doc_Brown wrote:After all the questions and concerns about whether Trump would commit to a peaceful transfer of power and discourage his followers from violence if he lost the election, it was perhaps not so surprising to hear that businesses were boarding up in advance of the election:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... y-protests
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... stay-safe/

However, it's rather interesting to note where the boarding up is occurring. San Francisco, Boston, New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc... These are all strongholds for Biden, not for Trump. Ignoring all the rhetoric from a few weeks ago, it seems that the business owners who are being proactive are far more worried about destruction caused by Biden supporters than by Trump supporters.

It's not very surprising at all. Those are all major urban centres. Large cities (in ALL political systems) are more prone to violence than small towns. Population density is by far the largest predictor of where violence will occur.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:12 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
Doc_Brown wrote:After all the questions and concerns about whether Trump would commit to a peaceful transfer of power and discourage his followers from violence if he lost the election, it was perhaps not so surprising to hear that businesses were boarding up in advance of the election:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... y-protests
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... stay-safe/

However, it's rather interesting to note where the boarding up is occurring. San Francisco, Boston, New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc... These are all strongholds for Biden, not for Trump. Ignoring all the rhetoric from a few weeks ago, it seems that the business owners who are being proactive are far more worried about destruction caused by Biden supporters than by Trump supporters.

It's not very surprising at all. Those are all major urban centres. Large cities (in ALL political systems) are more prone to violence than small towns. Population density is by far the largest predictor of where violence will occur.


That or they don't know or care who wins the election but sense that being in a major city there is a good chance either side could could riot in their area.

It's not exactly a secret that protests/riots happen in big cities, the idea that prospective protestors/rioters come from outside the city's limits to protest isn't exactly earth shattering news.

Also are there any large cities (let's say over 750,000 people) that voted republican in all of the USA?
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby betiko on Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:45 am

mookiemcgee wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Doc_Brown wrote:After all the questions and concerns about whether Trump would commit to a peaceful transfer of power and discourage his followers from violence if he lost the election, it was perhaps not so surprising to hear that businesses were boarding up in advance of the election:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... y-protests
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... stay-safe/

However, it's rather interesting to note where the boarding up is occurring. San Francisco, Boston, New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc... These are all strongholds for Biden, not for Trump. Ignoring all the rhetoric from a few weeks ago, it seems that the business owners who are being proactive are far more worried about destruction caused by Biden supporters than by Trump supporters.

It's not very surprising at all. Those are all major urban centres. Large cities (in ALL political systems) are more prone to violence than small towns. Population density is by far the largest predictor of where violence will occur.


That or they don't know or care who wins the election but sense that being in a major city there is a good chance either side could could riot in their area.

It's not exactly a secret that protests/riots happen in big cities, the idea that prospective protestors/rioters come from outside the city's limits to protest isn't exactly earth shattering news.

Also are there any large cities (let's say over 750,000 people) that voted republican in all of the USA?


trump voters are uneducated rednecks (armati, hit red..) or cinical 1% (saxi). That is not what constitutes the populations of large cities.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:18 pm

Doc_Brown wrote:However, it's rather interesting to note where the boarding up is occurring. San Francisco, Boston, New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc... These are all strongholds for Biden, not for Trump. Ignoring all the rhetoric from a few weeks ago, it seems that the business owners who are being proactive are far more worried about destruction caused by Biden supporters than by Trump supporters.

this is the kind of thread to read stupid posts, but you're definitely not the person i expected to write one
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby mookiemcgee on Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:21 pm

betiko wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Doc_Brown wrote:After all the questions and concerns about whether Trump would commit to a peaceful transfer of power and discourage his followers from violence if he lost the election, it was perhaps not so surprising to hear that businesses were boarding up in advance of the election:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... y-protests
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... stay-safe/

However, it's rather interesting to note where the boarding up is occurring. San Francisco, Boston, New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc... These are all strongholds for Biden, not for Trump. Ignoring all the rhetoric from a few weeks ago, it seems that the business owners who are being proactive are far more worried about destruction caused by Biden supporters than by Trump supporters.

It's not very surprising at all. Those are all major urban centres. Large cities (in ALL political systems) are more prone to violence than small towns. Population density is by far the largest predictor of where violence will occur.


That or they don't know or care who wins the election but sense that being in a major city there is a good chance either side could could riot in their area.

It's not exactly a secret that protests/riots happen in big cities, the idea that prospective protestors/rioters come from outside the city's limits to protest isn't exactly earth shattering news.

Also are there any large cities (let's say over 750,000 people) that voted republican in all of the USA?


trump voters are uneducated rednecks (armati, hit red..) or cinical 1% (saxi). That is not what constitutes the populations of large cities.


That's my point. When rebulicans want the votes to stop being counted in AZ they don't go to the desert and protest they go to a city where they will get press coverage.

Armati is Canadian Russian, so his vote wouldn't count anyway.

It's starting to look like a done deal today. Nevada is pulling away, AZ is a done deal and with these two it's over. PA is now pulling away for Biden as well, and GA it's like dead even with slightly more for your new president Joe Mo Fo Biden.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby betiko on Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:14 pm

It was pretty much a done deal all the way.

I expect Donald to go on a bukake night to suck border crossing mexicans. His ego must be so hurt that I’m sure hé likes it.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby joecoolfrog on Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:16 pm

Doc_Brown wrote:After all the questions and concerns about whether Trump would commit to a peaceful transfer of power and discourage his followers from violence if he lost the election, it was perhaps not so surprising to hear that businesses were boarding up in advance of the election:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... y-protests
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... stay-safe/

However, it's rather interesting to note where the boarding up is occurring. San Francisco, Boston, New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc... These are all strongholds for Biden, not for Trump. Ignoring all the rhetoric from a few weeks ago, it seems that the business owners who are being proactive are far more worried about destruction caused by Biden supporters than by Trump supporters.

Seriously Doc , you are better than this !
Trump has riled up his base by refusing to concede defeat and throwing around unwarranted accusations of cheating , he is an absolute disgrace as are those of the GOP who are not condemning him.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby Doc_Brown on Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:21 pm

Oh, I'm definitely not trying to imply anything Trump is currently saying (or much of what he tweets in general) has a solid basis in reality. It would definitely not be accurate to lump me in as a Trump supporter and I've certainly been pretty disgusted with a number of the things he's said or tweeted. However, I also had a massive eyeroll when he was asked if he would encourage his people to avoid violent actions if he lost the election. Yes, he and his people are going to be pushing lawsuits and tossing around accusations of cheating. On the other hand, with all the unrest we've had over the past several months, I can very well imagine riots breaking out in various cities if he had won the election.

I have friends across the political spectrum, and a couple of the guys I was camping with this past weekend are very much pro Trump Republicans. In some ways, they fit the stereotype - one of those guys may well have spent more on guns and ammunition in the past few years than I spent on my last car - and they are eating up any appearances of cheating or manipulation of the votes. They absolutely want Trump to keep fighting because they believe he would have won the election if it was handled completely fairly and free of manipulation. But here's the bottom line: These guys are some of the friendliest people you could ever meet. It doesn't matter what political party, race, gender, sexual preference, immigration status or any other defining factor you want to claim. If you're in trouble, they would drop everything to help out if they can. They abhor violence and wouldn't dream of hurting another person or damaging another's property. These guys are far more representative of the typical Trump supporter than Trump is, himself.

I think this is true across this country. We would be a lot better off if people are willing to sit down and listen to where others are actually coming from and start with the assumption that they are, by and large, intelligent people with logical reasons for arriving at the positions they have taken (though their conclusions may be flawed either by bad data or by errors in the logic). They are neither America-hating idiots (as some on the right have claimed) nor racist moronic bigots (as some on the left like to suggest).
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:43 am

joecoolfrog wrote:
Doc_Brown wrote:After all the questions and concerns about whether Trump would commit to a peaceful transfer of power and discourage his followers from violence if he lost the election, it was perhaps not so surprising to hear that businesses were boarding up in advance of the election:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... y-protests
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... stay-safe/

However, it's rather interesting to note where the boarding up is occurring. San Francisco, Boston, New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc... These are all strongholds for Biden, not for Trump. Ignoring all the rhetoric from a few weeks ago, it seems that the business owners who are being proactive are far more worried about destruction caused by Biden supporters than by Trump supporters.

Seriously Doc , you are better than this !
Trump has riled up his base by refusing to concede defeat and throwing around unwarranted accusations of cheating , he is an absolute disgrace as are those of the GOP who are not condemning him.


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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby betiko on Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:01 am

Doc_Brown wrote:Oh, I'm definitely not trying to imply anything Trump is currently saying (or much of what he tweets in general) has a solid basis in reality. It would definitely not be accurate to lump me in as a Trump supporter and I've certainly been pretty disgusted with a number of the things he's said or tweeted. However, I also had a massive eyeroll when he was asked if he would encourage his people to avoid violent actions if he lost the election. Yes, he and his people are going to be pushing lawsuits and tossing around accusations of cheating. On the other hand, with all the unrest we've had over the past several months, I can very well imagine riots breaking out in various cities if he had won the election.

I have friends across the political spectrum, and a couple of the guys I was camping with this past weekend are very much pro Trump Republicans. In some ways, they fit the stereotype - one of those guys may well have spent more on guns and ammunition in the past few years than I spent on my last car - and they are eating up any appearances of cheating or manipulation of the votes. They absolutely want Trump to keep fighting because they believe he would have won the election if it was handled completely fairly and free of manipulation. But here's the bottom line: These guys are some of the friendliest people you could ever meet. It doesn't matter what political party, race, gender, sexual preference, immigration status or any other defining factor you want to claim. If you're in trouble, they would drop everything to help out if they can. They abhor violence and wouldn't dream of hurting another person or damaging another's property. These guys are far more representative of the typical Trump supporter than Trump is, himself.

I think this is true across this country. We would be a lot better off if people are willing to sit down and listen to where others are actually coming from and start with the assumption that they are, by and large, intelligent people with logical reasons for arriving at the positions they have taken (though their conclusions may be flawed either by bad data or by errors in the logic). They are neither America-hating idiots (as some on the right have claimed) nor racist moronic bigots (as some on the left like to suggest).


Honnestly... the way I see this kind of people is the "you are with us or against us" type of guys... sure they would give their shirt to their friends if they needed it more than they did, but they have also been manipulated into hatred and paranoia. Let's hope Biden manages to solve this and reunite the people... from an outsider's point of view this looks like a tough job... Trump spent the last 5 years victimizing himself towards everything and asking for his supporter's back on every lie that would come to mind. I think we all needed a little break from this tweeter-happy BS spreader. He needs to concede though... for the sake of america. If he doesn't he's going to lead the country into chaos. Sure, Biden has won a few states by a small margin, but he still has a comfortable advance on his electoral college score, there is no way recounts could lead to trump winning... and if he does no Dem voter would think it was legit. This is kind of a catch 22 stuation.
Honnestly, if Trump would've tried to win by any means, and justify losing through any loophole possible and any lawsuit possible, like he does in his business life... but like in his business career he loses a lot and can't cope with it. I don't think the american people deserve any of this with everything going on in the world right now. Let's move on. Trump is history, and I hope a lesson for the future.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:11 am

I think the example Bill Maher gave last night was really appropriate, looking at Sarajevo. It used to be a placid multicultural city, with Serbs, Croats, and Bosnians all living together as happy neighbours. Just one twist of the kaleidoscope and they're all at each other's throats in a genocidal civil war. People are inherently in favour of peace and living in harmony. However, they also do have deep-seated tribal instincts. All it takes, unfortunately, is one ruthless demagogue with charisma to tap into those instincts and set them upon each other. Sociopaths of Trumpian magnitude are, fortunately, quite rare. But they can do an awful lot of damage.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:23 am

Dukasaur wrote:Sociopaths of Trumpian magnitude are, fortunately, quite rare. But they can do an awful lot of damage.


:lol:

Trump succeeded a president who literally bombed a country - Libya - into the stone age and who ordered the 16 year-old child of a man who had criticized him on the radio burned alive as a lesson to his father.

And Trump is a sociopath because he said some means things about some people.

Your mind is so twisted up with the breathless drumbeats the savage, bloodthirsty, pro-war corporate media have been pounding into it you don't know which way is up and which way is down.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:19 am

saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Sociopaths of Trumpian magnitude are, fortunately, quite rare. But they can do an awful lot of damage.


:lol:

Trump succeeded a president who literally bombed a country - Libya - into the stone age and who ordered the 16 year-old child of a man who had criticized him on the radio burned alive as a lesson to his father.

And Trump is a sociopath because he said some means things about some people.

Your mind is so twisted up with the breathless drumbeats the savage, bloodthirsty, pro-war corporate media have been pounding into it you don't know which way is up and which way is down.


I think you're referring to the American public. Trump's selling of his bizarro upside-down world where real news is referred to as fake news and fake news is referred to as real news has created a whole civilization that no longer trusts its own senses, doesn't know what to believe. When you add in people in other countries affected by this, it's probably 500 million people who no longer know which way is up.

I in no way support what was done to Libya. I said it was wrong. But although it may seem hopelessly inadequate to say so, it was an honest mistake. They were helping overthrow a despot and thought it would lead to a democratic government. They were wrong.

What Trump has done to the U.S. is not an honest mistake. It was done with malice aforethought.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby jfm10 on Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:51 am

saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Sociopaths of Trumpian magnitude are, fortunately, quite rare. But they can do an awful lot of damage.


:lol:

Trump succeeded a president who literally bombed a country - Libya - into the stone age and who ordered the 16 year-old child of a man who had criticized him on the radio burned alive as a lesson to his father.

And Trump is a sociopath because he said some means things about some people.

Your mind is so twisted up with the breathless drumbeats the savage, bloodthirsty, pro-war corporate media have been pounding into it you don't know which way is up and which way is down.


On January 29, 2017, Anwar al-Awlaki's 8-year-old daughter, Nawar al-Awlaki, the half-sister of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, was killed in the Raid on Yakla, a commando attack ordered by President Donald Trump.[11][12][13][14]

Who is in charge of foreign affairs if both parties are manipulated ?
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby 2dimes on Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:18 am

Dukasaur wrote:I in no way support what was done to Libya. I said it was wrong. But although it may seem hopelessly inadequate to say so, it was an honest mistake. They were helping overthrow a despot and thought it would lead to a democratic government. They were wrong.



We can either file that under, "Those who refuse to learn history..." Or more likely in my opinion, the wealthy elite got yet another assist from nato.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby riskllama on Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:28 am

well, Trump did try to start a war w/Iran - but thankfully, they just weren't biting.
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Re: Congrats on Joe Biden! USA's 46th president

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:18 am

Dukasaur wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Sociopaths of Trumpian magnitude are, fortunately, quite rare. But they can do an awful lot of damage.


:lol:

Trump succeeded a president who literally bombed a country - Libya - into the stone age and who ordered the 16 year-old child of a man who had criticized him on the radio burned alive as a lesson to his father.

And Trump is a sociopath because he said some means things about some people.

Your mind is so twisted up with the breathless drumbeats the savage, bloodthirsty, pro-war corporate media have been pounding into it you don't know which way is up and which way is down.


I think you're referring to the American public. Trump's selling of his bizarro upside-down world where real news is referred to as fake news and fake news is referred to as real news has created a whole civilization that no longer trusts its own senses, doesn't know what to believe. When you add in people in other countries affected by this, it's probably 500 million people who no longer know which way is up.

I in no way support what was done to Libya. I said it was wrong. But although it may seem hopelessly inadequate to say so, it was an honest mistake. They were helping overthrow a despot and thought it would lead to a democratic government. They were wrong.

What Trump has done to the U.S. is not an honest mistake. It was done with malice aforethought.


LMAOWUT!?! Instigating a four month war that resulted in the savage and brutal deaths of tens of thousands of people - people having their skin melted off their bodies in Hellfire strikes, their eyes blown out of their sockets, their limbs torn off - is "an honest mistake! tee hee!" But Trump tweeting some PG-13 insults about the media makes him a "sociopath?"

Get real. You're a sociopath if you believe that. But I suspect what's really going on is you're just a racist which your history of epithets against Arab peoples already demonstrates.
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Postby saxitoxin on Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:20 am

Biden, the Pretender President, is still mad only his sycophantic media allies recognize him as imaginary king, but officialdom does not.

The delay is costing the Biden team access to millions of dollars in federal funding and the ability to meet with officials at intelligence agencies and other departments

The transition team needs to be recognized to access funds for salaries, consultants and travel, as well as access to classified information, the official said.

In addition, the team has no access to the State Department, which usually facilitates calls between foreign leaders and the president-elect, the official said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN27Q04I


Get lost Biden. We've decided this won't work out. You can go back to Delaware and make speeches for the next four years.

    And what if you do get a majority, a sweeping majority on election day? What then? What if we simply refuse to hand the government over to you? When you reach up with your vaunted, strong hands, we will show you what true strength is. In roar of shell and shrapnel and whine of machine guns will our answer be couched. We will crush you under our heel and we will walk upon your face.
    - Jack London "The Iron Heel" (1908)
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism

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