Trump: "non-white people are not real Americans"

[jimboston]

I produced trumps racist quote, which you deny as being racist.

So I’m done.

I’m not going to scroll through and reread lol the crap you’ve typed... just so you can ignore it.

I assume nothing.

I state facts.

Trump’s history combined with his recent statements are sufficient evidence for me.

[HitRed]

[NomadPatriot]

I produced trumps racist quote, which you deny as being racist.

So I’m done.

I’m not going to scroll through and reread lol the crap you’ve typed... just so you can ignore it.

I assume nothing.

I state facts.

Trump’s history combined with his recent statements are sufficient evidence for me.

not 1 single quote of mine

[Symmetry]

Page 5 and there's a strong agreement that Trump ISN'T racist? That's some heavy lifting! What's the gist of it?

[NomadPatriot]

Page 5 and there's a strong agreement that Trump ISN'T racist? That's some heavy lifting! What's the gist of it?

Nationalistic & Racist are 2 completely different things

[hotfire]

Page 5 and there's a strong agreement that Trump ISN'T racist? That's some heavy lifting! What's the gist of it?

Nationalistic & Racist are 2 completely different things

Are they that different? They both fall under the cloak of xenophobia. They are definitely related.

[NomadPatriot]

Page 5 and there's a strong agreement that Trump ISN'T racist? That's some heavy lifting! What's the gist of it?

Nationalistic & Racist are 2 completely different things

Are they that different? They both fall under the cloak of xenophobia. They are definitely related.

Nationalistic is a love for your nation..
racist is a hatred of a skin color..
xenophobia is a fear or hatred for people of other countries. ( hence it is called a Phobia)

a nation & a race are 2 completely separate things.

Nations are comprised of a multitude of Different Races & Ethnicities.

I love the United States
anyone or anything who intends to harm my country i will stand againist.
i do not hate them.. i do not fear them. but i will plant my foot in the ground and do my part if needed to defend my country.
either with words here on the site . or i will pull a full on Gandalf if required.




that is a Nationalistic point of view I have . not a Racist or Xenophobic point of view

[mookiemcgee]

Page 5 and there's a strong agreement that Trump ISN'T racist? That's some heavy lifting! What's the gist of it?

Nationalistic & Racist are 2 completely different things

Are they that different? They both fall under the cloak of xenophobia. They are definitely related.

Nationalistic is a love for your nation..
racist is a hatred of a skin color..
xenophobia is a fear or hatred for people of other countries. ( hence it is called a Phobia)

a nation & a race are 2 completely separate things.

Nations are comprised of a multitude of Different Races & Ethnicities.

I love the United States
anyone or anything who intends to harm my country i will stand againist.
i do not hate them.. i do not fear them. but i will plant my foot in the ground and do my part if needed to defend my country.
either with words here on the site . or i will pull a full on Gandalf if required.


that is a Nationalistic point of view I have . not a Racist or Xenophobic point of view

Trump said about four elected Americans, 3 of whom are born in USA - "Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came"

What is America-loving about telling Americans to go back to where they come from (america - which yes is broken and crime infested)?
There is nothing nationalistic about it. If anything he's bashing Americans, which is anti-nationalistic.

[HitRed]

I think he said,

Stop complaining and make it better. Get to work. I took it to be state, neighborhood or district.

[NomadPatriot]

here is the complete unedited tweet series. not a snipet to fit a narrative:


Donald Trump's "...go back..." tweets



Donald Trump's three tweet series from July 14 at 8:27 AM ET (Tweets: 1 | 2 | 3)

"So interesting to see "Progressive" Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......"

"....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how...."

"....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can't leave fast enough. I'm sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!"

he clearly said " who originally came from other countries".
he does not mention anyone by name. ( except Nancy Pelosi )
he does not mention any particular race.
and he is only talking about Congresswomen who originally came here from other countries who are 'loudly & viciously telling people how our government is to be run"..
--> so the 3 women everyone keeps trying to say he was talking about who were born in the USA are not who he was talking about..

[Symmetry]

The man is racist, The excuses are pretty poor at this point.

[NomadPatriot]

The man is racist, The excuses are pretty poor at this point.

like I optioned Jimmy. just quote 1 single Racist thing Trump has said.. not something Nationalistic.

if you are intolerant towards his point of view, regardless of what he says.. . that would make you a bigot..

[Symmetry]

The man is racist, The excuses are pretty poor at this point.

like I optioned Jimmy. just quote 1 single Racist thing Trump has said.. not something Nationalistic.

if you are intolerant towards his point of view, regardless of what he says.. . that would make you a bigot..

Really?

[hotfire]

https://grammarist.com/usage/patriotism-vs-nationalism/

Patriotism is the love and affection one feels for his country. The feeling of patriotism is based on the values a country espouses and the way it strives to improve. Patriotism is based on the belief in the inherent goodness of the system of government in a country, and the goodness of its people. The word patriotism is derived from the word patriot, from the Latin word patriota meaning fellow citizen, and the suffix -ism, meaning a system or doctrine.

Nationalism is the love and affection one feels for his country. However, nationalism is rooted in the belief that one’s country is superior to all others, and carries the connotation of disapproval of other nations or a rivalry with other nations. While patriotism does not disparage other countries, nationalism builds up one’s own country by tearing other countries down. Nationalism supports dominating other countries. The word nationalism is derived from the word nation, which comes from the Latin word nationem meaning origin or tribe, and the suffix -ism.

[Symmetry]

https://grammarist.com/usage/patriotism-vs-nationalism/

Patriotism is the love and affection one feels for his country. The feeling of patriotism is based on the values a country espouses and the way it strives to improve. Patriotism is based on the belief in the inherent goodness of the system of government in a country, and the goodness of its people. The word patriotism is derived from the word patriot, from the Latin word patriota meaning fellow citizen, and the suffix -ism, meaning a system or doctrine.

Nationalism is the love and affection one feels for his country. However, nationalism is rooted in the belief that one’s country is superior to all others, and carries the connotation of disapproval of other nations or a rivalry with other nations. While patriotism does not disparage other countries, nationalism builds up one’s own country by tearing other countries down. Nationalism supports dominating other countries. The word nationalism is derived from the word nation, which comes from the Latin word nationem meaning origin or tribe, and the suffix -ism.

Aye- I like that distinction.

[NomadPatriot]

https://grammarist.com/usage/patriotism-vs-nationalism/

Patriotism is the love and affection one feels for his country. The feeling of patriotism is based on the values a country espouses and the way it strives to improve. Patriotism is based on the belief in the inherent goodness of the system of government in a country, and the goodness of its people. The word patriotism is derived from the word patriot, from the Latin word patriota meaning fellow citizen, and the suffix -ism, meaning a system or doctrine.

Nationalism is the love and affection one feels for his country. However, nationalism is rooted in the belief that one’s country is superior to all others, and carries the connotation of disapproval of other nations or a rivalry with other nations. While patriotism does not disparage other countries, nationalism builds up one’s own country by tearing other countries down. Nationalism supports dominating other countries. The word nationalism is derived from the word nation, which comes from the Latin word nationem meaning origin or tribe, and the suffix -ism.

ok.. awesome...
neither of those definitions have anything to do with racism... neither of those definitions mentions Race or Ethnicity
so I do not see your point..

Nations are not Races..

if 10 black Americans do not want 10,000 Koreans to enter our country illegally. .are they Racist or Nationalistic..?

[Symmetry]

https://grammarist.com/usage/patriotism-vs-nationalism/

Patriotism is the love and affection one feels for his country. The feeling of patriotism is based on the values a country espouses and the way it strives to improve. Patriotism is based on the belief in the inherent goodness of the system of government in a country, and the goodness of its people. The word patriotism is derived from the word patriot, from the Latin word patriota meaning fellow citizen, and the suffix -ism, meaning a system or doctrine.

Nationalism is the love and affection one feels for his country. However, nationalism is rooted in the belief that one’s country is superior to all others, and carries the connotation of disapproval of other nations or a rivalry with other nations. While patriotism does not disparage other countries, nationalism builds up one’s own country by tearing other countries down. Nationalism supports dominating other countries. The word nationalism is derived from the word nation, which comes from the Latin word nationem meaning origin or tribe, and the suffix -ism.

ok.. awesome...
neither of those definitions have anything to do with racism... neither of those definitions mentions Race or Ethnicity
so I do not see your point..

Nations are not Races..

if 10 black Americans do not want 10,000 Koreans to enter our country illegally. .are they Racist or Nationalistic..?

Or, ya know, we can talk about the actual racism.

[NomadPatriot]

Or, ya know, we can talk about the actual racism.

ok.. let's quote people who used Race to describe people..

--> Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) criticized Pelosi for calling President Trump’s immigration plans a ploy to ‘make America white again.’

Pelosi’s offensive remarks come on the heels of a quip the super-lib Representative made just days ago when she said that debates over immigration legislation are being led by ‘five white guys,’ reported Politico.

“The five white guys I call them, you know,” Pelosi said during the news conference. “Are they going to open a hamburger cialis 20mg price in india stand next or what?”

[Keefie]

So Trump just stood bye lapping it up as the crowd chanted 'Send her back', he could have stopped them if he wanted to.

The guy is nothing but a disgusting racist. Nothing will convince me otherwise.

All you guys trying to defend him are just putting lipstick on a pig.

[Bernie Sanders]

So Trump just stood bye lapping it up as the crowd chanted 'Send her back', he could have stopped them if he wanted to.

The guy is nothing but a disgusting racist. Nothing will convince me otherwise.

All you guys trying to defend him are just putting lipstick on a pig.

I think putting lipstick on Nomad and HitRed would be a good start.

[DoomYoshi]

I love the United States
anyone or anything who intends to harm my country i will stand againist.

The first people to stand against are the nationalists, like Woodrow Wilson and his gang of cronies.
Then the police.
And of course, the Air Force...

[Bernie Sanders]

Trump speak:

If you are a woman of color and you come from a poor/crime infested area....don't run for Congress. Go back and solve those issues and then you have a right to come to the table of WHITE EUROPEANS.

Got news for you....if you ain't at the table, you will become part of the menu.

https://binged.it/30D4uAq

[jimboston]

Page 5 and there's a strong agreement that Trump ISN'T racist? That's some heavy lifting! What's the gist of it?

Nationalistic & Racist are 2 completely different things

Are they that different? They both fall under the cloak of xenophobia. They are definitely related.

+1

[jimboston]

So Trump just stood bye lapping it up as the crowd chanted 'Send her back', he could have stopped them if he wanted to.

The guy is nothing but a disgusting racist. Nothing will convince me otherwise.

All you guys trying to defend him are just putting lipstick on a pig.

+1

[jimboston]

here is the complete unedited tweet series. not a snipet to fit a narrative:


Donald Trump's "...go back..." tweets



Donald Trump's three tweet series from July 14 at 8:27 AM ET (Tweets: 1 | 2 | 3)

"So interesting to see "Progressive" Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......"

"....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how...."

"....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can't leave fast enough. I'm sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!"

he clearly said " who originally came from other countries".
he does not mention anyone by name. ( except Nancy Pelosi )
he does not mention any particular race.
and he is only talking about Congresswomen who originally came here from other countries who are 'loudly & viciously telling people how our government is to be run"..
--> so the 3 women everyone keeps trying to say he was talking about who were born in the USA are not who he was talking about..

This is typical Trump Apologist Speak.

“He didn’t mean what he meant, and what we all heard, and what we all know he meant.” “No, if you break down his quote word by word you know and you take a few phrases and pull them out and look at them out-of-context, then they can mean something else.”

You are now Pulling a Nomad on Trump’s tweet.
The same thing you do here all day... pulling a phrase out of context and warping it’s meaning.
You won’t believe me, but this doesn’t make you look smart, it makes you look like a crony.

He’s talking about those four Congresswomen. He’s not talking about anyone else... if he was he would’ve told us who he’s talking about. The fact is he, and what makes his racism obvious, is that HE THINKS THESE WOMEN ARE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY.... and he thinks this BECAUSE THEY ARE BROWN AND NOT WHITE.

If he was only talking about the 1 Congresswoman (of the four) who s born in another country... why did he type “Congresswomen” and not “Congresswoman”?
You gonna claim that is a typo but every other tweeted word is ‘precise’?