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Postby jay_a2j on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:27 pm

unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Christians are (mostly) against gay marriage and homosexuality. The two subjects coincide (I can't believe this needs an explanation).


Oh, you mean like the homosexual Christians who get attacked by Christian right-wing douschebags? Christianity is such a diverse belief you shou;dn't represent it all under one umbrella.



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Postby got tonkaed on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:29 pm

again, although this may be fruitless because we do disagree on some basic levels....

one would certainly argue that in the sheep and goats story, that it is quite likely that gay christians not to mention may others, did take care of the needy as though they were Christ himself. One could certainly assume they did behave in a fashion that Christ would have approved of from the language of the parable.

Now that doesnt mean you cant still classify them as different, that is of course your choosing. But to use that parable which defines behavior of Christians to be used against a type of christian you dont prefer, seems a bit shortsighted imo.
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Postby unriggable on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:32 pm

got tonkaed wrote:Depending on your affiliation the money would certainly go to different places, but can you imagine what would be done if so much of the budget didnt go to the military


Yeah, last time I checked about 250 billion dollars go to what is essentially the development and the dispatching of weaponry created to destroy people. Stunning.
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Postby got tonkaed on Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:35 pm

for me, since i have a tough time wrapping my mind around those numbers in the high billions that frequently are being used to fight the wars... i just think about how the us nearly equals the rest of the developed world in size of military budget combined.

one could certainly argue that the us should have a higher budget as a global hegemon, but in a globalizing economic picture one would assume that hegemonic power fades away as a result, and so should the extremely high military budget.
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Postby Jesse, Bad Boy on Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:53 pm

I am stunned by those that seem to be preoccupied by the whole Christian concept of heterosexual marriage may only be allowed, meaning that homosexuals cannot get married has merit.

I was under the impression that we were founded as a secular state. Would this not contradict the founding fathers intentions? Moreover, I was under the impression that the government had little right to interfere with the individual lives of it's constituents, much less bar said constituents from signing a contract (which is what marriage ultimately is).

Also, I am curious to the people who were anti-Illegal Immigration. Why are people opposed to free individuals signing a contract?
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Postby got tonkaed on Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:59 pm

jesse, i would have to believe people are opposed to illegal immigration in most part because they do not see it as an issue which is boiled down to individuals signing a contract. I have merely a hunch that it has quite a bit more to do with a fear that the economy will not have a place for them. Which is potentially true, but thats a horse of a different color.
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Postby Lord Canti on Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:34 am

I guess without using any misleading terms to explain my views I'll be straightforward.

I am..
Pro-Life
Pro-smaller national government
Pro-gay rights
For a tougher legal justice system

I think of myself as a tolerent conservative. My goal one day is to be the first third party president of the United States.
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Postby got tonkaed on Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:41 am

which third party are you planning on platforming with?
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Postby ilevot on Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:57 pm

Caleb the Cruel wrote:I am anti-homosexuality.
I am anti-abortion(unless mother's life is threatened).
I am anti-Seperation of Church & State.
I am pro-Afghanistan War.
I am pro-Iraq War.
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration.
I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.
I am anti-Many Social Programs.
I am pro-National Healthcare System.
I am anti-Nuclear Power.
I am pro-Nuclear Weapons(for stable nations)
I am pro-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.
I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.
I am pro-Bush.
I am anti-Hillary.
I am anti-Obama.
I am anti-Edwards.
I am pro-McCain(generally).
I am pro-Rudy.
I am anti-Most Stem Cell Research.
wow! Amen to most of that! 8)
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Postby XenHu on Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:59 pm

Big fucking surprise..


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Postby konifro on Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:09 pm

ilevot wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:I am anti-homosexuality.
I am anti-abortion(unless mother's life is threatened).
I am anti-Seperation of Church & State.
I am pro-Afghanistan War.
I am pro-Iraq War.
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration.
I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.
I am anti-Many Social Programs.
I am pro-National Healthcare System.
I am anti-Nuclear Power.
I am pro-Nuclear Weapons(for stable nations)
I am pro-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.
I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.
I am pro-Bush.
I am anti-Hillary.
I am anti-Obama.
I am anti-Edwards.
I am pro-McCain(generally).
I am pro-Rudy.
I am anti-Most Stem Cell Research.
wow! Amen to most of that! 8)
So...

You're Gunhoe...
You're Republican
You're Wealthy or atleast slightly, your not broke
You're slightly Socialist
You're slightly Statist
You're White
You lack intrest in medical field
You lack instrest in economic field
You lack any positive vision for the future.
You know nothing of War, especially what it is for america, and what good comes out of it.

I want to ask you a few questinos I want you 2 to answer if you can.

1) What is the Goal for Iraq?
If you say/think to make it a stable and democratic nation, don't even post.

2) What is the one main thing Bush needs to do before he leaves office?
I want to see your answer here.

3) Do you think America can stand another war?
If you say/think yes, don't even post. Because one more war, and Bush will call for a for a 5 letter word, beggining with D, and ending with Raft.

4) Why is the Middle Class steadily declining?
Yet again I want to see your answer.

5) Why is it good for a nation to have Nuclear Weapons, but not Nuclear Power? If anything non-stable or nations who are not considered 1st world or Developed should not have them at all, or should we wage war over thier use of it?
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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:40 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
flashleg8 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:My views:

Against death penalty


I'm surprised Jay (I agree completely). I would have had you pegged for pro on this (just shows you not to pigeon hole anyone I suppose).

Is this because of your Christian beliefs?



In part..... killing is killing. I have gone back and forth on this issue...but I always end up back here. Something about WWJD? Forgive them. Also I believe that only God has the right to take life.


Wait, weren't you pro-death penalty for Saddam?
I was generally against killing him, and all other criminals.
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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:58 pm

konifro wrote:
ilevot wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:I am anti-homosexuality.
I am anti-abortion(unless mother's life is threatened).
I am anti-Seperation of Church & State.
I am pro-Afghanistan War.
I am pro-Iraq War.
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration.
I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.
I am anti-Many Social Programs.
I am pro-National Healthcare System.
I am anti-Nuclear Power.
I am pro-Nuclear Weapons(for stable nations)
I am pro-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.
I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.
I am pro-Bush.
I am anti-Hillary.
I am anti-Obama.
I am anti-Edwards.
I am pro-McCain(generally).
I am pro-Rudy.
I am anti-Most Stem Cell Research.
wow! Amen to most of that! 8)
So...

You're Gunhoe...
You're Republican
You're Wealthy or atleast slightly, your not broke
You're slightly Socialist
You're slightly Statist
You're White
You lack intrest in medical field
You lack instrest in economic field
You lack any positive vision for the future.
You know nothing of War, especially what it is for america, and what good comes out of it.

I want to ask you a few questinos I want you 2 to answer if you can.

1) What is the Goal for Iraq?
If you say/think to make it a stable and democratic nation, don't even post.

2) What is the one main thing Bush needs to do before he leaves office?
I want to see your answer here.

3) Do you think America can stand another war?
If you say/think yes, don't even post. Because one more war, and Bush will call for a for a 5 letter word, beggining with D, and ending with Raft.

4) Why is the Middle Class steadily declining?
Yet again I want to see your answer.

5) Why is it good for a nation to have Nuclear Weapons, but not Nuclear Power? If anything non-stable or nations who are not considered 1st world or Developed should not have them at all, or should we wage war over thier use of it?



1. Before we leave Iraq, we must be sure that the democratic government can protect itself from insurgents. We can't just leave, that would create more problems for the entire region than we've already created in Iraq.

2. Bush can't do too much more, due to the loss of Congress. However he does need to veto most stem-cell research proposals.

3. No, America cannot handle another war during the Bush administration. All this talk about attacking Iran is complete B.S.

4. Many companies do not pay their workers enough to support their families, and the tax payers are picking up the tab with huge social programs. Why should I have to pay for the poor man's food and medicine, shouldn't the company he works for do that? To prevent the loss of the middle-class, we need to raise the minimum wage so that every family can be supported, which would eliminate most social programs, a national healthcare program would also help with that.

5. Nuclear power way too much toxic waste that takes 100's if not 1000's of years before it is not dangerously radioactive. However nuclear weapons are a source of protection for stable nations like the United States, just in case weapons get into the wrong hands, we can use ours to destroy theirs.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:35 am

Caleb the Cruel wrote:
konifro wrote:
ilevot wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:I am anti-homosexuality.
I am anti-abortion(unless mother's life is threatened).
I am anti-Seperation of Church & State.
I am pro-Afghanistan War.
I am pro-Iraq War.
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration.
I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.
I am anti-Many Social Programs.
I am pro-National Healthcare System.
I am anti-Nuclear Power.
I am pro-Nuclear Weapons(for stable nations)
I am pro-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.
I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.
I am pro-Bush.
I am anti-Hillary.
I am anti-Obama.
I am anti-Edwards.
I am pro-McCain(generally).
I am pro-Rudy.
I am anti-Most Stem Cell Research.
wow! Amen to most of that! 8)
So...

You're Gunhoe...
You're Republican
You're Wealthy or atleast slightly, your not broke
You're slightly Socialist
You're slightly Statist
You're White
You lack intrest in medical field
You lack instrest in economic field
You lack any positive vision for the future.
You know nothing of War, especially what it is for america, and what good comes out of it.

I want to ask you a few questinos I want you 2 to answer if you can.

1) What is the Goal for Iraq?
If you say/think to make it a stable and democratic nation, don't even post.

2) What is the one main thing Bush needs to do before he leaves office?
I want to see your answer here.

3) Do you think America can stand another war?
If you say/think yes, don't even post. Because one more war, and Bush will call for a for a 5 letter word, beggining with D, and ending with Raft.

4) Why is the Middle Class steadily declining?
Yet again I want to see your answer.

5) Why is it good for a nation to have Nuclear Weapons, but not Nuclear Power? If anything non-stable or nations who are not considered 1st world or Developed should not have them at all, or should we wage war over thier use of it?




4. Many companies do not pay their workers enough to support their families, and the tax payers are picking up the tab with huge social programs. Why should I have to pay for the poor man's food and medicine, shouldn't the company he works for do that? To prevent the loss of the middle-class, we need to raise the minimum wage so that every family can be supported, which would eliminate most social programs, a national healthcare program would also help with that.



FYI, There will be a price raise, with a minimum wage raise. You will still be paying for it.

Although I am pro that too. Oh, and you said you were pro Iraq war, so what was the point to begin with.
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Postby boberz on Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:11 pm

i personally am a socialist and a strong one but live in a deply consercative part of england stupid
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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:18 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:
konifro wrote:
ilevot wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:I am anti-homosexuality.
I am anti-abortion(unless mother's life is threatened).
I am anti-Seperation of Church & State.
I am pro-Afghanistan War.
I am pro-Iraq War.
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration.
I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.
I am anti-Many Social Programs.
I am pro-National Healthcare System.
I am anti-Nuclear Power.
I am pro-Nuclear Weapons(for stable nations)
I am pro-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.
I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.
I am pro-Bush.
I am anti-Hillary.
I am anti-Obama.
I am anti-Edwards.
I am pro-McCain(generally).
I am pro-Rudy.
I am anti-Most Stem Cell Research.
wow! Amen to most of that! 8)
So...

You're Gunhoe...
You're Republican
You're Wealthy or atleast slightly, your not broke
You're slightly Socialist
You're slightly Statist
You're White
You lack intrest in medical field
You lack instrest in economic field
You lack any positive vision for the future.
You know nothing of War, especially what it is for america, and what good comes out of it.

I want to ask you a few questinos I want you 2 to answer if you can.

1) What is the Goal for Iraq?
If you say/think to make it a stable and democratic nation, don't even post.

2) What is the one main thing Bush needs to do before he leaves office?
I want to see your answer here.

3) Do you think America can stand another war?
If you say/think yes, don't even post. Because one more war, and Bush will call for a for a 5 letter word, beggining with D, and ending with Raft.

4) Why is the Middle Class steadily declining?
Yet again I want to see your answer.

5) Why is it good for a nation to have Nuclear Weapons, but not Nuclear Power? If anything non-stable or nations who are not considered 1st world or Developed should not have them at all, or should we wage war over thier use of it?




4. Many companies do not pay their workers enough to support their families, and the tax payers are picking up the tab with huge social programs. Why should I have to pay for the poor man's food and medicine, shouldn't the company he works for do that? To prevent the loss of the middle-class, we need to raise the minimum wage so that every family can be supported, which would eliminate most social programs, a national healthcare program would also help with that.



FYI, There will be a price raise, with a minimum wage raise. You will still be paying for it.

Although I am pro that too. Oh, and you said you were pro Iraq war, so what was the point to begin with.



Back in 2003, I was the most anti-Bush person in America, except for maybe Al Gore. I kept ranting to everyone that there were no WMD's in Iraq and was very anti-Iraq War until 2005. In 2005, Bush admitted that Saddam didn't have any WMD's and admitted that we went into Iraq on mis-leading and incorrect intelligence. Due to the fact that he admitted the mistake, I become pro-Bush and pro-Iraq War. I realized that if we just leave Iraq before the democratic government can defend itself against Islamic militants, it would create huge consequences in the decades to come. The entire region would fall apart. There would be huge wars fought for control of the nation, Saudi Arabia and Iran would get involved. The Saudis protecting Sunnis and the Iranians protecting Shi-ites.

Plus, Saddam was a WMD himself and needed to be put into exile, but not killed.
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Postby konifro on Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:45 pm

Caleb the Cruel wrote:1. Before we leave Iraq, we must be sure that the democratic government can protect itself from insurgents. We can't just leave, that would create more problems for the entire region than we've already created in Iraq.

2. Bush can't do too much more, due to the loss of Congress. However he does need to veto most stem-cell research proposals.

3. No, America cannot handle another war during the Bush administration. All this talk about attacking Iran is complete B.S.

4. Many companies do not pay their workers enough to support their families, and the tax payers are picking up the tab with huge social programs. Why should I have to pay for the poor man's food and medicine, shouldn't the company he works for do that? To prevent the loss of the middle-class, we need to raise the minimum wage so that every family can be supported, which would eliminate most social programs, a national healthcare program would also help with that.

5. Nuclear power way too much toxic waste that takes 100's if not 1000's of years before it is not dangerously radioactive. However nuclear weapons are a source of protection for stable nations like the United States, just in case weapons get into the wrong hands, we can use ours to destroy theirs.
1) Wrong, do you think Iraq will actually be able to ever defend itself in the Middle, of the Middle East? With Iran waiting for us to leave, as well as Syria, and Jordan. Once we leave the insurgency, among a possible coalition of Arab nations could easily take Iraq. Iraq can not stand on its own, and will fail once we leave. The problem now is alot of internal struggles between the diffrent sects of people in Iraq. The Sunnis don't want the Shi'ites to rule, and Visa Versa. Men are killing each other underhandedly.

2) In my opinion Bush, needs to work on our economy. He has been negligent to it, and therefor our Poor have become poorer, Middle class has dissapeared. And Rich have well stayed rich.

3) True, we will probably not go to war with Iran, but the thing is, we thought that going to war in Iraq without probable cause was B.S., but Bush ended up proving us wrong.

4) Minimum wage is increasing nationally, thanks to the new people in Congress. I think its $7.25. Somewhere around there. But you sem to sound very socialist. But why should you pay for the poor mans food, is because when we were only worrying about the rich man, we were not a nation of complete prosperity. A major gap is slightly what caused the Deppresion of 1929. Because there was such a large gap between the Rich and Poor, the Rich controlled most of what the stocks, and imports were, when thier stocks fell or they decided to pull, and there was no Middle Class who pay the normal tax rates, and usually help with designing reforms, American inflation shot through the roof. What little money the poor had was lost, and even the rich took a major cut, because alot of thier money was now inflated. America rose back up because of the Poor, and World War 2 creating jobs.

5) Nuclear anything is way too much toxic waste, that lasts for years. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are not homes for Japanese. And I think any nation within a designed purpose should have the use of thier own resources, and use thier own materials, if they have nuclear power/weapons, its on them.
Caleb the Bruel wrote:Back in 2003, I was the most anti-Bush person in America, except for maybe Al Gore. I kept ranting to everyone that there were no WMD's in Iraq and was very anti-Iraq War until 2005. In 2005, Bush admitted that Saddam didn't have any WMD's and admitted that we went into Iraq on mis-leading and incorrect intelligence. Due to the fact that he admitted the mistake, I become pro-Bush and pro-Iraq War. I realized that if we just leave Iraq before the democratic government can defend itself against Islamic militants, it would create huge consequences in the decades to come. The entire region would fall apart. There would be huge wars fought for control of the nation, Saudi Arabia and Iran would get involved. The Saudis protecting Sunnis and the Iranians protecting Shi-ites.

Plus, Saddam was a WMD himself and needed to be put into exile, but not killed.
So, you became Pro-Bush because he lied? Then fessed up? I don't call that honorable, or anything great, all he did was cover his ass, and handle it. If he fessed up to a lie, then it's just taking responsibility which any person should show. Had he said the real reason, or had a real reason besides hiding the fact that Iraq is a rich mans war, then maybe it would be diffrent. Afganistan is the only real place we should have went, and right now its being done by tasks forces, which is better. The Iraq Government will probably fall, even most Republicans-Centrist agree. I do believe Saddam should have been killed, because he killed many men, although I do not think we should have been involved or anything, but I just belive his death was just.
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Postby Jesse, Bad Boy on Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:58 pm

got tonkaed wrote:jesse, i would have to believe people are opposed to illegal immigration in most part because they do not see it as an issue which is boiled down to individuals signing a contract. I have merely a hunch that it has quite a bit more to do with a fear that the economy will not have a place for them. Which is potentially true, but thats a horse of a different color.


But that's exactly what the issue is, denial of the right of contract. When I work for a business I sign a contract; I will give the business my labor for the businesses credit. Any attempt to deny that is a breach on Individual Right.

The government and anti-Immigration fanboys dress it up as "stealing" jobs, and "hurting the economy", when there is zero factual basis to either of those claims.

The first claim is ridiculous on the premise that no one is guaranteed a job. If a business chooses to contract an employee, that is the businesses prerogative. Any attempt to circumvent this is a step closer to a more powerful state, and ultimately Leviathan.

The second claim is equally ridiculous in that attempting to control the economy leads to disaster, not the opposite. Anyone who has done some serious study on the Market knows that when you try and control the economy, you get results that are often tainted by protectivist interests, or lead to total economic failures like the Depression.
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Postby Stopper on Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:32 pm

Jesse, Bad Boy wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:jesse, i would have to believe people are opposed to illegal immigration in most part because they do not see it as an issue which is boiled down to individuals signing a contract. I have merely a hunch that it has quite a bit more to do with a fear that the economy will not have a place for them. Which is potentially true, but thats a horse of a different color.


But that's exactly what the issue is, denial of the right of contract. When I work for a business I sign a contract; I will give the business my labor for the businesses credit. Any attempt to deny that is a breach on Individual Right.

The government and anti-Immigration fanboys dress it up as "stealing" jobs, and "hurting the economy", when there is zero factual basis to either of those claims.

The first claim is ridiculous on the premise that no one is guaranteed a job. If a business chooses to contract an employee, that is the businesses prerogative. Any attempt to circumvent this is a step closer to a more powerful state, and ultimately Leviathan.


I agree with Jesse on some of the economics points here, but nevertheless, got tonkaed is probably right in that a lot of popular opposition to immigration is not based on economics. Whether we like it or not, opposition to immigration in the USA, France, Britain and elsewhere is often driven by racism. Why the racism arises is another matter - often because people lead insecure lives (because of the market!) and need a scapegoat.

Jesse, Bad Boy wrote:The second claim is equally ridiculous in that attempting to control the economy leads to disaster, not the opposite. Anyone who has done some serious study on the Market knows that when you try and control the economy, you get results that are often tainted by protectivist interests, or lead to total economic failures like the Depression.


This is too sweeping. I'm no economics expert, but I'm well aware that nothing like the capitalistic ideal of a completely free economy has never existed, not even in America, and probably can't. Markets, if they are not controlled, go from boom to bust all the time.
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Postby unriggable on Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:32 pm

Caleb the Cruel wrote:1. Before we leave Iraq, we must be sure that the democratic government can protect itself from insurgents. We can't just leave, that would create more problems for the entire region than we've already created in Iraq.


I agree, but it's a dumb shit war, the moment we leave the government will collapse.

2. Bush can't do too much more, due to the loss of Congress. However he does need to veto most stem-cell research proposals.


You're right. Cancer and diabetes aren't that big of a deal :roll:

3. No, America cannot handle another war during the Bush administration. All this talk about attacking Iran is complete B.S.


I certainly hope so, and I'm glad you agree.

4. Many companies do not pay their workers enough to support their families, and the tax payers are picking up the tab with huge social programs. Why should I have to pay for the poor man's food and medicine, shouldn't the company he works for do that? To prevent the loss of the middle-class, we need to raise the minimum wage so that every family can be supported, which would eliminate most social programs, a national healthcare program would also help with that.


That's the problem with capitalism, companies can do whatever it is they want. Like Enron! Leave it to the government to give workers health care and pensions.

5. Nuclear power way too much toxic waste that takes 100's if not 1000's of years before it is not dangerously radioactive. However nuclear weapons are a source of protection for stable nations like the United States, just in case weapons get into the wrong hands, we can use ours to destroy theirs.


But if they didn't exist we wouldn't have to deal with any of this bullshit in the first place.
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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:51 am

Caleb the Cruel wrote: Bush can't do too much more, due to the loss of Congress. However he does need to veto most stem-cell research proposals.


unriggable wrote:You're right. Cancer and diabetes aren't that big of a deal :roll:



Not all stem cell research is bad, just the kinds that take the cells aborted children.

It's funny how many liberals like to abort everything. Children, wars, and their past political views(especially while running for office).



Caleb the Cruel wrote: Nuclear power produces way too much toxic waste that takes 100's if not 1000's of years before it is not dangerously radioactive. However nuclear weapons are a source of protection for stable nations like the United States, just in case weapons get into the wrong hands, we can use ours to destroy theirs.


unriggable wrote:But if they didn't exist we wouldn't have to deal with any of this bullshit in the first place.


At this point, it would be impossible to disarm the world of nuclear weapons. The U.S. and Russia both have an estimated 11-12,000 warheads combined. The U.K. has 200, France 350, and China has 130. North Korea is estimated to have 1-10 active warheads. Israel is rumored to own up to 200. India and Pakistan both have around 50 each. With this many nuclear warheads out there(and some from the U.S.S.R. that are un-accounted for), the world will not get rid of all of them for over a century. Plus, India and Pakistan, with their border disputes, would never agree to disarm. And Israel being threatened by Arab nations, will not give them up willingly either.
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Postby luns101 on Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:02 am

I would describe myself as a Capitalist economically.

I almost always vote for the Republican Party candidate (USA).

Almost all my friends are Libertarians and have been making some good points in our discussions when we get together. It's funny because they are more boisterous about their beliefs than I am so they are accused of being Republicans.
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Postby ilevot on Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:33 pm

konifro wrote:
ilevot wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:I am anti-homosexuality.
I am anti-abortion(unless mother's life is threatened).
I am anti-Seperation of Church & State.
I am pro-Afghanistan War.
I am pro-Iraq War.
I am pro-Immigration.
I am anti-Illegal Immigration.
I am pro-Higher Minimum Wage.
I am anti-Many Social Programs.
I am pro-National Healthcare System.
I am anti-Nuclear Power.
I am pro-Nuclear Weapons(for stable nations)
I am pro-Giving Public Funding to Non-Public Schools.
I am anti-Giving Money to Private Broadcasting Companies.
I am pro-Bush.
I am anti-Hillary.
I am anti-Obama.
I am anti-Edwards.
I am pro-McCain(generally).
I am pro-Rudy.
I am anti-Most Stem Cell Research.
wow! Amen to most of that! 8)
So...

You're Gunhoe...
You're Republican
You're Wealthy or atleast slightly, your not broke
You're slightly Socialist
You're slightly Statist
You're White
You lack intrest in medical field
You lack instrest in economic field
You lack any positive vision for the future.
You know nothing of War, especially what it is for america, and what good comes out of it.

I want to ask you a few questinos I want you 2 to answer if you can.

1) What is the Goal for Iraq?
If you say/think to make it a stable and democratic nation, don't even post.

2) What is the one main thing Bush needs to do before he leaves office?
I want to see your answer here.

3) Do you think America can stand another war?
If you say/think yes, don't even post. Because one more war, and Bush will call for a for a 5 letter word, beggining with D, and ending with Raft.

4) Why is the Middle Class steadily declining?
Yet again I want to see your answer.

5) Why is it good for a nation to have Nuclear Weapons, but not Nuclear Power? If anything non-stable or nations who are not considered 1st world or Developed should not have them at all, or should we wage war over thier use of it?

hmmmm....for starters.......

1. I'm not "Gunhoe"
2. I would be Republican if I were American
3. nope, my family is not wealthy at all. not even what you could call "well off". we have enough money to just barely make it into the "middle class" section of society
4. I am not, I repeat, not at all Socialist. I hate it. and I do live in the first Socialist province in Canada. and it stinks.
5. what's Statist mean?
6. I am white.
7. I wouldn't say that I lack interest in the medical field, just simply that I'm not planning to go into that as my career.
8. not too much, no. though I probably won't go into that either. I don't know yet.
9. I do have a positive vision for the future. more of one than the Liberals up here do. :roll:
10. I do know plenty about war. and I"m not for it unless it is necessary, but I shan't get into that here and now.

and for the others:
1. I haven't completely made up my mind about Iraq, but what I do think, is that it'd be very stupid for the US to pull out now.

2.as I've said, I'm not American, so I'm not exctly clear on all the things going on down there. I keep up more with Canadian stuff.

3. no, I don't think they can really stand another war at this point in time with all the "bleeding-hearts" crying about how terrible it was for them to go to Iraq. also, since Iraq isn't done yet, that's another reason why they can't right now.

4. I do not know. I may know many things, but I don't know everything. :wink: :lol:

5. hmm? i'm not real clear on what you meant there, and I have to run and do something else right now anyways.
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