South Korea People say FU to USA Beef

[tzor]

South Korea's beef protests: Lee's woes deepen - Christian Science Monitor

You know Mad Cow is no longer in US beef, this whole protest is bull.

I say we should pull out all our troops from South Korea. Let all those malnurished and short North Koreans on the border of the DMZ invade their little country, rape all their cattle and eat all their women.

Meanwhile I'm going to enjoy a nice steak, or even a sirloin, from the good old U.S.A.

[Frigidus]

South Korea's beef protests: Lee's woes deepen - Christian Science Monitor

You know Mad Cow is no longer in US beef, this whole protest is bull.

I say we should pull out all our troops from South Korea. Let all those malnurished and short North Koreans on the border of the DMZ invade their little country, rape all their cattle and eat all their women.

Meanwhile I'm going to enjoy a nice steak, or even a sirloin, from the good old U.S.A.

Mad Cow is probably rare, but I somehow doubt that we ship out our primest cuts to other countries.

[heavycola]

South Korea's beef protests: Lee's woes deepen - Christian Science Monitor

You know Mad Cow is no longer in US beef, this whole protest is bull.

I say we should pull out all our troops from South Korea. Let all those malnurished and short North Koreans on the border of the DMZ invade their little country, rape all their cattle and eat all their women.

Meanwhile I'm going to enjoy a nice steak, or even a sirloin, from the good old U.S.A.

Mmmm, every good patriot loves a steak from a taste-free, hormone-drenched supercow.

[Nickbaldwin]

Stop it this thread is making me hungry.

[muy_thaiguy]

South Korea's beef protests: Lee's woes deepen - Christian Science Monitor

You know Mad Cow is no longer in US beef, this whole protest is bull.

I say we should pull out all our troops from South Korea. Let all those malnurished and short North Koreans on the border of the DMZ invade their little country, rape all their cattle and eat all their women.

Meanwhile I'm going to enjoy a nice steak, or even a sirloin, from the good old U.S.A.

Mmmm, every good patriot loves a steak from a taste-free, hormone-drenched supercow.

Exaggerating a bit, don't you think?

[got tonkaed]

tzor are you suggesting that anytime a country chooses to take a stance against a commodity they feel is harmful and try to keep it out of their markets, that we should just cut ties with them?

[Nickbaldwin]

Just think of it this way mate, if they don't want your beef then there's more of it for America!

[Juan_Bottom]

Mad Cow disease is only part of it. They don't want any form of geniticaly modified foods. Many have been linked to cancer... I can't blame 'um.

[heavycola]

South Korea's beef protests: Lee's woes deepen - Christian Science Monitor

You know Mad Cow is no longer in US beef, this whole protest is bull.

I say we should pull out all our troops from South Korea. Let all those malnurished and short North Koreans on the border of the DMZ invade their little country, rape all their cattle and eat all their women.

Meanwhile I'm going to enjoy a nice steak, or even a sirloin, from the good old U.S.A.

Mmmm, every good patriot loves a steak from a taste-free, hormone-drenched supercow.

Exaggerating a bit, don't you think?

Exaggerating? Moi?
Does america-hating extend to her cattle? In that case i apologise to the great American bovine population, who fought and died for the freedoms and obesity crisis that makes the united states the country it is today.
*Oh say can you see, by the dawn's early light, a bunch of hoooooormone-pumped cows, in the abbatoir gleaming...*

[tzor]

tzor are you suggesting that anytime a country chooses to take a stance against a commodity they feel is harmful and try to keep it out of their markets, that we should just cut ties with them?

There is an old saying "you can fool all of the people some of the time." But back to the matter at hand. When a country "takes a stand" attempting to overthrow their government, and voiding all legal and binding international treaty obligations and decisions of the world trade organization ... yes I think cutting ties are in order.

Driving to work I was hearing the report from NPR. The average South Koreans were making a number of statements that were simply flat out untrue, such as the notion that Americans don't eat any beef from cattle older than 30 months.

Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations - Recent cases of "mad cow disease" are isolated incidents

7 February 2005, Rome --The few cases of Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) or 'mad cow disease' in cattle in Canada and the US should not cause panic among consumers and producers, the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) said in a statement today. Nor should the single case of BSE recently confirmed in a goat in France.

"The three cases in Canada and the one case in the US from an imported animal are isolated incidents," said Andrew Speedy, an FAO animal production expert. These cases were detected because of the testing procedures that are now in place. More than 176 000 tests out of a total cattle population of almost 95 million have been carried out in the USA and more than 21 000 out of 14.5 million cattle in Canada during 2004. A ban on feeding ruminant protein to ruminants has been in place in both countries since 1997.

Mmmm, every good patriot loves a steak from a taste-free, hormone-drenched supercow.

Well actually I prefer locally raised buffalo myself, but Omaha Steak is pretty tasty.


There are problems with the beef industry in the United States but Mad Cow is not one of them.

[got tonkaed]

Well i think the thing is, that particular protest was sort of a lot of things coming to a head, and it just so happened that beef was a header to the argument. I do find it rather odd though that as a citizen of a democratic nation, when a large group of people essentially decide to protest actions of their own government that they feel are harmful, that you in essence decide you should cut ties, which is a rather unsupportive stance toward a democratic action.

[tzor]

I think it is more of a statement that when you have made a very long term commitment to a nation that is in effect at war with another nation, by supplying troops on their border for them, and they in turn decide to protest as a collective body the very nature of free trade and international court decisions then one is either left for tit for tat trade retaliations or one just accepts that fact and says "if you don't want our beef, you probably don't want our troops either."

[btownmeggy]

They don't want any form of geniticaly modified foods. Many have been linked to cancer... I can't blame 'um.

What GMOs have been linked to cancer??

[got tonkaed]

I think it is more of a statement that when you have made a very long term commitment to a nation that is in effect at war with another nation, by supplying troops on their border for them, and they in turn decide to protest as a collective body the very nature of free trade and international court decisions then one is either left for tit for tat trade retaliations or one just accepts that fact and says "if you don't want our beef, you probably don't want our troops either."

I guess my only real objection to this is that if we essentially decide we are going to take knee jerk reactions against regional allies everytime they decide to disagree with us on economic issues (considering how we fare in terms of WTO sanctions and the like) we are going to find we are in very short supply of support. I think for the US to do much of anything in retaliation would just be a silly overreaction.

[Pedronicus]

we English know all about mad cow and the financial grief that comes with other countries bans on imports after it's discovered.

Mad cow is caused by greedy farmers feeding shit to the cows, instead of the natural diet of grass.
If you leave a cow to eat grass naturally it won't develop this disease.
I think it's only right that greedy cunts (just like the banks selling on high risk sub prime mortgages) get their fingers burnt. I just wish that The Bank of England didn't bail these wankers out to avoid a financial melt down.
They aren't giving the regular joe who has just about got his foot on the property ladder a hand.

People who bought several properties on a buy to rent basis should get their fingers burnt.
Bankers who bought Sub Prime loans should get their fingers burnt.
Farmers who feed livestock with steroids and chemical bollox should get their fingers burnt.

But no - the above three will get help. The average Joe will get shafted. This world is run by cunts.

[tzor]

I guess my only real objection to this is that if we essentially decide we are going to take knee jerk reactions against regional allies everytime they decide to disagree with us on economic issues (considering how we fare in terms of WTO sanctions and the like) we are going to find we are in very short supply of support. I think for the US to do much of anything in retaliation would just be a silly overreaction.

Well the common response is typically a tit for tat trade tarrif, and this is certanly permitted under the World Trade Organization. A number of nations have gone through the WTO and the US has lost all appeals and their only recourse is to put tarrifs on US goods. And to that I say, go for it. (I mean if those damn congressmen can't get rid of clearly unfair subsidies in the farm bills then let them sweat when various other groups start complaining that they can't sell their products to these nations.)

I don't think a tit for tat embargo of South Korean goods is as impressive. Plus bringing troops back home is a guarenteed crowd pleaser, even if they aren't in harms way in the first place.

[Juan_Bottom]

They don't want any form of geniticaly modified foods. Many have been linked to cancer... I can't blame 'um.

What GMOs have been linked to cancer??

Near as I can tell, most all of them. The most directly harmful to people is probably milk, and meat. Though GM plants are also very dangerous. Did you know that there is no more wild maize in all the world? What was left has cross-bred with RoundUp ready corn. But A quick search on your browser will bring up a bunch of stuff I am sure. Now, I'm not saying that they all cause cancer, only that gm foods have been linked to it.


"rBGH poses an even greater risk to human health than ever considered," warned Samuel Epstein M.D., Professor of Environmental Medicine .... "The FDA and Monsanto have a lot to answer for. Given the cancer risks, and other health concerns, why is rBGH milk still on the market?"

[Juan_Bottom]

On one hand, good for the South Korean people, for taking a stand. But on the other, screw them. There is a worldwide food shortage, and America is making a mint off it's food anyway. Pretty soon they will be beging for our GM food. Let them eat cake!

[btownmeggy]

They don't want any form of geniticaly modified foods. Many have been linked to cancer... I can't blame 'um.

What GMOs have been linked to cancer??

Near as I can tell, most all of them. The most directly harmful to people is probably milk, and meat. Though GM plants are also very dangerous. Did you know that there is no more wild maize in all the world? What was left has cross-bred with RoundUp ready corn. But A quick search on your browser will bring up a bunch of stuff I am sure. Now, I'm not saying that they all cause cancer, only that gm foods have been linked to it.


"rBGH poses an even greater risk to human health than ever considered," warned Samuel Epstein M.D., Professor of Environmental Medicine .... "The FDA and Monsanto have a lot to answer for. Given the cancer risks, and other health concerns, why is rBGH milk still on the market?"

Please provide links to "most all of them".

I don't understand how the disappearance of "wild maize" (a plant which has been cultivated and genetically manipulated for thousands of years) causes cancer.

rBGH is a good example for your argument, and I accept its links to cancer. It's not a GMO, but I suppose cows treated with it become GMed to some extent. But I don't think it's fair, or scientifically reasonable, to generalize rBGH to all genetically modified food sources. rBGH-enriched products produce cancer because of they contain high hormone levels. Any exposure to high levels of hormones causes those same kinds of cancer. Genetically modified yams, on the other hand, don't, though they too have been tainted by Monsanto's hand.

[PLAYER57832]

Mad Cow disease is only part of it. They don't want any form of geniticaly modified foods. Many have been linked to cancer... I can't blame 'um.

They are convinced that We don't eat our own beef .. and are exporting basically sick and poisoned stuff overseas.

My question is how does this lunacy start ... hmm the internet????

[tzor]

They are convinced that We don't eat our own beef .. and are exporting basically sick and poisoned stuff overseas.

It's just not true. We give basically sick beef to our children.

Now that, on the other hand was a real panic. Yes we give our worst meat to the food service prodivers that makes products used in all the school cafeterias. When there was a problem with questionable cows being carried to slaughter schools had to scramble while they put suspect meat in their freezers in isolation.

The world should realize that whatever rotten food there is in the US almost always winds up on the tables of the US first and foremost.

[Juan_Bottom]

No sorry no links. It has been about a year since I've read about GM foods. The only site I remember visiting is PSRAST.org. So I'm afraid that I would just be sifting through internet debri, same as you. or were you trying to 'get' me?

http://www.psrast.org

The disappearance of wild maize doesn't have anything to do with cancer. But it does show the potential dangers of allowing GM plants to cultivate outside of quarentine. This GM plant took over it's cousins.

[2dimes]

I'm sure you're ignorant of this so I'll be brief.

There was a single BSE infected cow found here in Alberta that turned out to have been brought up from the United States of America. The border was closed to all Canadian cattle for years and it decimated many of the family run cattle operations here one of the main industries here.

[radiojake]

go vegetarian - avoid making your stomach a rotting graveyard - will also avoid bowel cancer too!

[btownmeggy]

go vegetarian - avoid making your stomach a rotting graveyard - will also avoid bowel cancer too!

A little over a year ago I became predominately vegetarian. I still eat seafood/fish and every couple of months I consume small quantities of non-pesco meat just to not hurt people's feelings (my quintessential story of my occasional non-fish consumption: my mom tries SO HARD to make veggie food for my partner and me... things like egg drop soup with chicken broth... I would be far more repulsed refusing it than eating it).

But my point: The longer I go without meat, the grosser meat seems, tastes, and feels. I seriously cringe at the thought of a hamburger. I don't even really like fish anymore, it just makes me feel bad. After years and years of aggressively interrogating my vegetarian friends and saying I would never take the plunge, it ended up being surprisingly easy to go veg.