Should Ron Paul Splinter the GOP?

[DaGip]

I think all the Ron Paul supporters should show up at the GOP with guns and samurai swords and get down to business!

(it's a joke...take a chill pill, you neoCon boot licker!)

[muy_thaiguy]

The closest anyone has ever come to splitting a major party, and nearly getting the Presidency, was Teddy Roosevelt, when he started up the Bull Moose Party after his second term.

[Juan_Bottom]

Ron Paul is without a doubt our best candidate. I don't see a debate there, if you've seen his.

It is a shame.

But I don't think he is splitting the party. More or less, he only has a few rouge delagates. And his supporters come from every party. I don't think he is a splitter.

[InkL0sed]

Ron Paul is without a doubt our best candidate. I don't see a debate there, if you've seen his.

It is a shame.

But I don't think he is splitting the party. More or less, he only has a few rouge delagates. And his supporters come from every party. I don't think he is a splitter.

How can you not see a debate? I admire him -- but Ron Paul would ruin our economy.

[Juan_Bottom]

Ron Paul is without a doubt our best candidate. I don't see a debate there, if you've seen his.

It is a shame.

But I don't think he is splitting the party. More or less, he only has a few rouge delagates. And his supporters come from every party. I don't think he is a splitter.

How can you not see a debate? I admire him -- but Ron Paul would ruin our economy.

Our economy is going to collapse either way. With Ron Paul however, we would get back control of our government. And with his elimination of the bulk of the IRS, that would leave a lot more money at the peon level for us to survive a depression. Rather than the central government also loaning it out to big corporations and banks to help them survive too. I don't really see a choice.

[InkL0sed]

Ron Paul is without a doubt our best candidate. I don't see a debate there, if you've seen his.

It is a shame.

But I don't think he is splitting the party. More or less, he only has a few rouge delagates. And his supporters come from every party. I don't think he is a splitter.

How can you not see a debate? I admire him -- but Ron Paul would ruin our economy.

Our economy is going to collapse either way. With Ron Paul however, we would get back control of our government. And with his elimination of the bulk of the IRS, that would leave a lot more money at the peon level for us to survive a depression. Rather than the central government also loaning it out to big corporations and banks to help them survive too. I don't really see a choice.

I'm sorry, but what makes you think our economy will collapse? We our probably going to go through a recession -- but nowhere near a depression, and maybe not even as bad as it was in the 70's with stagflation etc. We will not go through a depression, because China and Japan and a lot of other countries have a ton of investments in us. They basically support us -- but the catch is that they are equally dependent on us.

It seems to me that every Ron Paul supporter does not seem to grasp the fact that his economic policies are completely insane. Having a gold-backed dollar would not stabilize our economy -- it would do just the opposite. We really don't need more tax cuts, we've gotten plenty as it is. What we need is better spending, which is really so much more important nowadays than tax policy.

[Juan_Bottom]

I think that the continued inflation will cause a depression. But I am also one of those that thinks we are in a recession right now. And our government is continuing with its inflationary policies. We reached the point where we are printing more money than we are able to borrow, a long time ago.
China has the bulk of its investments in our money, not so much our debts. And they have been threatening to sell, because they don't want to go down with the ship. There was a 6-nation sell-off of our money a couple of weeks ago already. Which completly trapped China. I don't know what they'll do, but I also know that our government isn't listening to them. A sell-off alone would cause a depression, but I don't know how likely it is. I think war would happen first, because at least that would prevent a worldwide collapse.
There is also the matter of our looming banking system crash. Since the economy sucks now, they ain't doing so hot. $50 billion borrowed from the government secretly??? And the strong probability of a stock market crash if investors start to speculate that the price of oil will go down. Not to mention that the Fed Rate is completly stuck where it is.

And Carbon Taxing. This would hurt the economy the most. How likely? IDK, but Bush just voiced his support for a bill.

[Frigidus]

Eventually the Federal Reserve will raise interest rates, which will f*ck up the economy but save the dollar. So things will be bad but not terrible.

[DaGip]

I don't know...I feel really depressed. I would say that we are in a depression. And if you have ever read Ron Paul's Foreign Policy of Freedom, you would see that he was predicting all of this. Ron Paul believes in Austrian economics, I plan on studying it in my free time.

Economics is one of those things they don't teach you in the public school system in the united states. I think they should make it mandatory!

All the Central Bank does is inflate currency and make bigger bubbles that will end up bursting again. Why not just fix the problem with a sound money system? I don't know why you guys like counterfeit money?

Whatever...I guess people that are wealthy have no reasons to bitch, eh?

[InkL0sed]

I don't know...I feel really depressed. I would say that we are in a depression. And if you have ever read Ron Paul's Foreign Policy of Freedom, you would see that he was predicting all of this. Ron Paul believes in Austrian economics, I plan on studying it in my free time.

Economics is one of those things they don't teach you in the public school system in the united states. I think they should make it mandatory!

All the Central Bank does is inflate currency and make bigger bubbles that will end up bursting again. Why not just fix the problem with a sound money system? I don't know why you guys like counterfeit money?

Whatever...I guess people that are wealthy have no reasons to bitch, eh?

They teach economics at my public school, and it isn't even necessarily AP.

Of course, my school is exceptional, so I don't know how representative that is of the rest of the country...

[Juan_Bottom]

Eventually the Federal Reserve will raise interest rates, which will f*ck up the economy but save the dollar. So things will be bad but not terrible.

Raising the interest rates would save the dollar. But it would also completly collapse the housing market. That is a lot of jobs, and investments. This would probably cause a depression.

[suggs]

DaGip, shut up and read a history book, or an economics textbook, ideally both.
The USA had the best economy in the 20 th century.
Sure the Japs, had a good few years in the 1980s, the Germans in the 1960's, Asia did alright for a few years in the nineties.
China is doing well now, just like Britain did when we first got industrialised - you grow very fast from a low base.

But here we are in the 21st century, and guess who is still the strongest economy in the world.
Yes,its the USA.
So shut up, you know nothing.

[InkL0sed]

I think that the continued inflation will cause a depression. But I am also one of those that thinks we are in a recession right now. And our government is continuing with its inflationary policies. We reached the point where we are printing more money than we are able to borrow, a long time ago.
China has the bulk of its investments in our money, not so much our debts. And they have been threatening to sell, because they don't want to go down with the ship. There was a 6-nation sell-off of our money a couple of weeks ago already. Which completly trapped China. I don't know what they'll do, but I also know that our government isn't listening to them. A sell-off alone would cause a depression, but I don't know how likely it is. I think war would happen first, because at least that would prevent a worldwide collapse.
There is also the matter of our looming banking system crash. Since the economy sucks now, they ain't doing so hot. $50 billion borrowed from the government secretly??? And the strong probability of a stock market crash if investors start to speculate that the price of oil will go down. Not to mention that the Fed Rate is completly stuck where it is.

And Carbon Taxing. This would hurt the economy the most. How likely? IDK, but Bush just voiced his support for a bill.

You can think all you want, but I assure you none of this will happen.

If it does I'll do something... crazy. You name it, I'll do it.

[suggs]

ps its almost half way through the year yet, and the "recession" still hasn't happened in the USA.
So its a bit early to be talking about a depression.
f*ck, you morons really annoy me.
READ SOME FUCKING HISTORY BOOKS.

[DaGip]

DaGip, shut up and read a history book, or an economics textbook, ideally both.
The USA had the best economy in the 20 th century.
Sure the Japs, had a good few years in the 1980s, the Germans in the 1960's, Asia did alright for a few years in the nineties.
China is doing well now, just like Britain did when we first got industrialised - you grow very fast from a low base.

But here we are in the 21st century, and guess who is still the strongest economy in the world.
Yes,its the USA.
So shut up, you know nothing.

shut up, you know nothing...

brilliant!

[Juan_Bottom]

I think that the continued inflation will cause a depression. But I am also one of those that thinks we are in a recession right now. And our government is continuing with its inflationary policies. We reached the point where we are printing more money than we are able to borrow, a long time ago.
China has the bulk of its investments in our money, not so much our debts. And they have been threatening to sell, because they don't want to go down with the ship. There was a 6-nation sell-off of our money a couple of weeks ago already. Which completly trapped China. I don't know what they'll do, but I also know that our government isn't listening to them. A sell-off alone would cause a depression, but I don't know how likely it is. I think war would happen first, because at least that would prevent a worldwide collapse.
There is also the matter of our looming banking system crash. Since the economy sucks now, they ain't doing so hot. $50 billion borrowed from the government secretly??? And the strong probability of a stock market crash if investors start to speculate that the price of oil will go down. Not to mention that the Fed Rate is completly stuck where it is.

And Carbon Taxing. This would hurt the economy the most. How likely? IDK, but Bush just voiced his support for a bill.

You can think all you want, but I assure you none of this will happen.

If it does I'll do something... crazy. You name it, I'll do it.

I'm sorry. I was just trying to say that China Isn't a factor. And there will be a crash in the stock market due to oil. The only thing up for debate is how big it will be. I was an Escrow Officer, and I don't know any bankers anymore that aren't saving the money that they used to specutivly invest.

[suggs]

You really don't. I'm tired of all this "loveable Da Gip nonsense. You play a mean guitar, great singing voice, but when it comes to politics and economics, you really don't know anything.
So stop posting about it.

[DaGip]

ps its almost half way through the year yet, and the "recession" still hasn't happened in the USA.
So its a bit early to be talking about a depression.
f*ck, you morons really annoy me.
READ SOME FUCKING HISTORY BOOKS.

Why are you blowing your little nads all over the place!

You don't live in the USA do you?

A lot of people can't fucking afford to buy anything to eat, because of food and gas prices.

Sure it ain't super bad, but it is bad. It is bad enough that if I wasn't making as much as I do, I would be in dire straights.

So stick your taunting bullshit up your stinking hemorrhoids!

[suggs]

Shut up Juan. There "will be a crash in the stockmarket". Yes, people have been saying that since 1721 - and ya know the amazing thing?Once every 20 years or so , they are right! Brilliant forecasting.
The market has been on a mad ride for a while now - and yet, it keeps rallying.
Maybe it will crash tomorrow.
But my portfolio is still FAT, let me tell you

[Juan_Bottom]

You really don't. I'm tired of all this "loveable Da Gip nonsense. You play a mean guitar, great singing voice, but when it comes to politics and economics, you really don't know anything.
So stop posting about it.

I was going to reply to your last post and say this same thing about you SUGGS.....

And again, I was an Escrow Officer for 2 years for the HUD. And I am qualified to say that.

[suggs]

ps its almost half way through the year yet, and the "recession" still hasn't happened in the USA.
So its a bit early to be talking about a depression.
f*ck, you morons really annoy me.
READ SOME FUCKING HISTORY BOOKS.

Why are you blowing your little nads all over the place!

You don't live in the USA do you?

A lot of people can't fucking afford to buy anything to eat, because of food and gas prices.

Sure it ain't super bad, but it is bad. It is bad enough that if I wasn't making as much as I do, I would be in dire straights.

So stick your taunting bullshit up your stinking hemorrhoids!

It might be bad, BUT ITS NOT A RECESSION! How many times...
I don't live in the USA, but I do understand economics, have a first class brain, whereas as you smoke a lot of weed and live in a fantasy land.
Yeah , some people don't have jobs - its the same here. Its not a recession.
Read an economics text book, and get back to me.
Or stick to playing your guitar, you know somethin about that.

[suggs]

You really don't. I'm tired of all this "loveable Da Gip nonsense. You play a mean guitar, great singing voice, but when it comes to politics and economics, you really don't know anything.
So stop posting about it.

I was going to reply to your last post and say this same thing about you SUGGS.....

And again, I was an Escrow Officer for 2 years for the HUD. And I am qualified to say that.

And yet you don't seem to know anything about the current economic situation. How odd.
Still, you're prob just a bit thick, so i'll let you off.

[suggs]

I admit, i googled it. So you have been a fucking estate agent. Why would you admit that on an internet forum.
Poor you.
I'm sorry, failing to sell houses in your local area says almost nothing about the US economy.Its akin to someone saying "Yeah, I know this bloke that got fired, so its a recession".
Christ.

[InkL0sed]

I wanted to get venemous, but I knew suggs would come and do it for me.

Thanks suggs.

[Juan_Bottom]

You really don't. I'm tired of all this "loveable Da Gip nonsense. You play a mean guitar, great singing voice, but when it comes to politics and economics, you really don't know anything.
So stop posting about it.

I was going to reply to your last post and say this same thing about you SUGGS.....

And again, I was an Escrow Officer for 2 years for the HUD. And I am qualified to say that.

And yet you don't seem to know anything about the current economic situation. How odd.
Still, you're prob just a bit thick, so i'll let you off.

Maybe you could enlighten us. Start by explaining how English banks define American Recession?


Not an estate agent. I created and filed all of the paperwork, electronically handeled all of the money, paid all taxes, and all debts against a borrower from the bank that hired me, and made sure that borrowers even qualified, just to name the most important stuff.