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Should Homosexual couples have the right to adopt?

 
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:11 pm

Answer the question, and post as to why you answered as you did.
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Postby got tonkaed on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:12 pm

posted yes they should have the same rights....i think ive flushed out most of my rationale behind why i believe so by now.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:13 pm

Persoanlly, I believe that a child should have both the mother and father. But that's just me.
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Postby dacey on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:16 pm

How about a "Yes, but heterosexual is preferred" option?
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:20 pm

dacey wrote:How about a "Yes, but heterosexual is preferred" option?


I delibarated, but thought a clear poll like this was better. The second option does imply you think that there are some circumstances in which they should i.e when no other parents are available.
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Postby Simonov on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:22 pm

NO! children have rights too.
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:25 pm

Simonov wrote:NO! children have rights too.


Quoted.


For.


Truth.

Children are not toys of politically correct media and of gays!
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Postby Snorri1234 on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:25 pm

No ofcourse not! I don't want them to spread the GAY to our children.
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Postby DaGip on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:27 pm

Mother=Woman, Father=Man...two Fathers cannot have children by design, and neither can two Mothers...it seems like a natural law to me, but when has humanity ever thought they were subject to natural law?

I would say the natural choice would be a mother, father relationship...but if that is not available, then I guess a homo couple is better than nothing!
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:27 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:No ofcourse not! I don't want them to spread the GAY to our children.


The cynicism...its burning my screen!
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Postby flashleg8 on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:27 pm

Simonov wrote:NO! children have rights too.


WTF?! What right means you can't be adopted by a couple that are prepared to love you?

Anyone should be allowed to adopt - as long as they are proved to be fit for the responsibility. Any age, race, sexuality, marriage status.
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Postby jiminski on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:30 pm

I think it's perfectly acceptable and would adopt a lesbian tomorrow!
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:32 pm

flashleg8 wrote:
Simonov wrote:NO! children have rights too.


WTF?! What right means you can't be adopted by a couple that are prepared to love you?

Anyone should be allowed to adopt - as long as they are proved to be fit for the responsibility. Any age, race, sexuality, marriage status.


A three year old cannot adopt a ten year old.

A pedophile cannot adopt.

A single person cannot adopt.

A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.
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Postby heavycola on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:54 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.


:roll:go on then, explain why a gay couple is unfit for the responsibility
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:57 pm

heavycola wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.


:roll: go on then, explain why a gay couple is unfit for the responsibility


As I've said, I hink it is clear that huge impact will be had on a child's development if he is raised bu gays. This is unnatural, and the effect will e negative. Simply because gays want rights doesnt mean they should be allowed to trample the fundamental rights of others : namely a child to have a father and a mother
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Postby got tonkaed on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:57 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:
heavycola wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.


:roll: go on then, explain why a gay couple is unfit for the responsibility


As I've said, I hink it is clear that huge impact will be had on a child's development if he is raised bu gays. This is unnatural, and the effect will e negative. Simply because gays want rights doesnt mean they should be allowed to trample the fundamental rights of others : namely a child to have a father and a mother


thus far there has been no conclusive evidence to prove that charge is true napoleon.
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Postby Risktaker17 on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:00 pm

Who am I to take away the right of someone else.
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:01 pm

got tonkaed wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:
heavycola wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.


:roll: go on then, explain why a gay couple is unfit for the responsibility


As I've said, I hink it is clear that huge impact will be had on a child's development if he is raised bu gays. This is unnatural, and the effect will e negative. Simply because gays want rights doesnt mean they should be allowed to trample the fundamental rights of others : namely a child to have a father and a mother


thus far there has been no conclusive evidence to prove that charge is true napoleon.


But just think about it.
At every stage from being primates on we were raised by a mother and a father. Psychology tells us both play an essential role in our growing up.
You can't just say, ah, no studies to the contrary (obviously, since you can't exactly get your samples this early in the stage of this debate), so lets just allow gays to adopt.Its ridiculous.
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Postby diddle on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:01 pm

I have no opinion. I am a personality-less prawn.
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Postby Heimdall on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:03 pm

I wish a couple of hot lesbians would adopt me.
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Postby got tonkaed on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:03 pm

no but you can look at similar studies and say well what are they telling us.

In many cases studies on divorced homes (which although not the same thing by any stretch, is a non "traditional" sort of, set of family circumstances)

many of those studies we are finding now are suggesting that those kids are no less properly adjusted for life than kids who come from normal circumstances. Why is this so? Because the parent that remains, or the two parents in concert provide the proper support for the kids, which is the most important thing for a childs development.

To put it in forumla

Parental support + children aging = probably a well adjusted child

Lack of parental support + children aging = a higher likelyhood of less adjusted children.

You can get parent support from two parents of the same sex, certainly if you can get it from one parent.
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:04 pm

Heimdall wrote:I wish a couple of hot lesbians would adopt me.
:lol: :lol:
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Postby heavycola on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:04 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:
heavycola wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.


:roll: go on then, explain why a gay couple is unfit for the responsibility


As I've said, I hink it is clear that huge impact will be had on a child's development if he is raised bu gays. This is unnatural, and the effect will e negative. Simply because gays want rights doesnt mean they should be allowed to trample the fundamental rights of others : namely a child to have a father and a mother


unnatural?
The biologst Bruce Baghemil produced research in 1999 that found evidence of homosexual activity in over 1,500 species, from gut worms to primates. The number of species that shave or drive cars, on the other hand, is one.

What do you mean by unnatural?
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:10 pm

got tonkaed wrote:no but you can look at similar studies and say well what are they telling us.

In many cases studies on divorced homes (which although not the same thing by any stretch, is a non "traditional" sort of, set of family circumstances)

many of those studies we are finding now are suggesting that those kids are no less properly adjusted for life than kids who come from normal circumstances. Why is this so? Because the parent that remains, or the two parents in concert provide the proper support for the kids, which is the most important thing for a childs development.

To put it in forumla

Parental support + children aging = probably a well adjusted child

Lack of parental support + children aging = a higher likelyhood of less adjusted children.

You can get parent support from two parents of the same sex, certainly if you can get it from one parent.


???

Divorce has been proven to significantly damage children

Besides, the point is that two parents of different sex are what is best. No one can contend with that. And it is unnatural for gays to raise a child, heavycola.
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Postby got tonkaed on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:12 pm

no the more recent literature has suggested its not the divorce that maladjusts children its the lack of parental support, which although often occurs in divorced situations, certainly is not found solely there.

And your premise that matters to the debate has no evidence behind it, you cannot keep advancing it as if it was truth, without a smidiging of actual evidence, besides how youve been socialized to think.
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