China poisons the whole world

[mookiemcgee]

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/scientists-discover-china-has-been-secretly-emitting-banned-ozone-depleting-gas?fbclid=IwAR3GnrALTM_xuhMExfOe3dnKUrDQzCt4gmqUbqQ1Sf6L4YbAaObEPcBWl2E

[Symmetry]

nationalpost? Who they?

[2dimes]

The world has it coming.

[armati]

A poison in our island - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting ...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-27/ ... ../9161442
Nov 26, 2017 - “It'll be a very devastating event if it really leaks. We're not just talking the Marshall Islands, we're talking the whole Pacific.” 1 / 3. The dome on Runit ... A nuclear explosion on Runit Island, Marshall Islands. Supplied. Marshall ...

[mrswdk]

This increase accounts for a substantial fraction (at least 40 to 60 per cent) of the global rise in CFC-11 emissions.

1) Where it says ''Between 40 and 60 per cent', read ''The data is very poor'' (that's a huge margin of error).

2) Where it says 'at least', read 'even though the data we collected could at most be used to make a claim of 60%, we'd like to let people think it might be more than that'.

3) Where the authors use the word 'China' repeatedly throughout the abstract, despite the fact the problem they are investigating is (as they acknowledge) a global problem, read 'we hate China'.

Conclusion: Standard PR hit piece masquerading as academia. The scientific method should place Rigby et al on its foe list immediately.

[2dimes]

Meanwhile somewhere southwest of Runit...

[hotfire]

It was something like 95% percent of the factories were doing this and their rational was because the other factories were doing this.

[2dimes]

[Jdsizzleslice]

This increase accounts for a substantial fraction (at least 40 to 60 per cent) of the global rise in CFC-11 emissions.

1) Where it says ''Between 40 and 60 per cent', read ''The data is very poor substantial'' (that's a huge very small margin of error).

2) Where it says 'at least', read 'even though the data we collected could at most be used to make a claim of 60%, we'd like to let people think it might be more than that' 'at least'.

3) Where the authors use the word 'China' repeatedly throughout the abstract, despite the fact the problem they are investigating is (as they acknowledge) a global problem, read 'we hate China' 'China is poisoning the world'.

Fixed

[mrswdk]

Fixed

No surprises that Jdsizzleslice, an OT regular whose posting history marks him out as a Trump apologist, is putting his fingers in his ears and shouting 'China bad'.

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

[Jdsizzleslice]

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No surprises that Jdsizzleslice, an OT regular whose posting history marks him out as a Trump apologist, is putting his fingers in his ears and shouting 'China bad'.

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

Trump apologist? Where? lol.

Where did I shout China was bad? lol.

There are straw-man argumentative type inflections you are making. A post talking about the differences in how US Presidents are viewed in the media does not equate to your statement.

I would suggest you bring a better argument, and actual quotes (instead of general links to general posts) before you start with the name-calling.

If you want to have a back-and-forth, civil discussion about politics, then I am all for that. I do apologize, as my last post was not really meant to be taken 100% seriously. If you want me to be 100% serious when I respond to your posts, I certainly can do so.

[mrswdk]

my last post was not really meant to be taken 100% seriously

Apology and clarification both graciously accepted. So we are all in agreement

This increase accounts for a substantial fraction (at least 40 to 60 per cent) of the global rise in CFC-11 emissions.

1) Where it says ''Between 40 and 60 per cent', read ''The data is very poor'' (that's a huge margin of error).

2) Where it says 'at least', read 'even though the data we collected could at most be used to make a claim of 60%, we'd like to let people think it might be more than that'.

3) Where the authors use the word 'China' repeatedly throughout the abstract, despite the fact the problem they are investigating is (as they acknowledge) a global problem, read 'we hate China'.

Conclusion: Standard PR hit piece masquerading as academia. The scientific method should place Rigby et al on its foe list immediately.

[Jdsizzleslice]

So we are all in agreement

No. You didn't fully read my post if that is your conclusion. You just pick and choose what you want to hear.

[tzor]

Committee on the present danger: CHINA

A new independent organization formed by Washington policy advisers has emerged to focus on defending America from the growing threat of China.

“The Committee on the Present Danger: China” emerged late last month as a nonpartisan group set out to “educate and inform American citizens and policymakers about the existential threats presented from the People’s Republic of China under the misrule of the Chinese Communist Party,” according to the group.

The committee was inspired by the 1950s-era “Committee on the Present Danger,” a foreign policy interest group focused on educating the public on terrorism. The group was essentially abandoned during the Dwight Eisenhower administration, but did return for a time with a focus on the Soviet Union in the late 1970s.

“As with the Soviet Union in the past, Communist China represents an existential and ideological threat to the United States and to the idea of freedom—one that requires a new American consensus regarding the policies and priorities required to defeat this threat,” the Committee’s mission says.

[DoomYoshi]

nationalpost? Who they?

A Canadian newspaper that was started recently because every major newspaper in Canada had a strongly communist-bent. Right-wing columnists had nowhere to go anymore. So it is the Canadian version of FOX News, but Canadian politics in general are less bipartisan than in the States - the Canadian right-left spectrum runs from full-on Communists all the way to hardcore socialists.

[KoolBak]

Fukkin chinadorx. Fukkin mr/Mrs/androgenousswdke.

But Chinese food is good.

[mrswdk]

Committee on the present danger: CHINA

A new independent organization formed by Washington policy advisers has emerged to focus on defending America from the growing threat of China.

“The Committee on the Present Danger: China” emerged late last month as a nonpartisan group set out to “educate and inform American citizens and policymakers about the existential threats presented from the People’s Republic of China under the misrule of the Chinese Communist Party,” according to the group.

The committee was inspired by the 1950s-era “Committee on the Present Danger,” a foreign policy interest group focused on educating the public on terrorism. The group was essentially abandoned during the Dwight Eisenhower administration, but did return for a time with a focus on the Soviet Union in the late 1970s.

“As with the Soviet Union in the past, Communist China represents an existential and ideological threat to the United States and to the idea of freedom—one that requires a new American consensus regarding the policies and priorities required to defeat this threat,” the Committee’s mission says.

LOL

America has well and truly descended back into 1950s-level hysteria.

Let the pogroms begin!

[armati]

"A new independent organization formed by Washington policy advisers has emerged to focus on defending America from the growing threat of China."

Another independent organization formed by Washington policy advisers has emerged to focus on defending America from the growing threat of China.

Fixed.

"A Canadian newspaper that was started recently because every major newspaper in Canada had a strongly communist-bent"

Who cares? all the media is owned by the same people anyway and what dif does a Canadian media outlet make, Canada is another vassal of the states, they are not allowed their own thinking.

[jimboston]

Mrswdk

How come you’re unwilling to admit anything negative about China?

[jusplay4fun]

Let's start with dog food, a likely tip of the "iceberg" and see where this goes:


Chinese add poison in Dog Food
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Here are 3, from the first page of a Google Search:

China's Food Safety Problems Go Deeper Than Pet Treats
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BY BRYAN WALSH
MAY 21, 2014
http://time.com/107922/china-pet-food-c ... all-video/

PETCO became the first national pet food store to halt the sale of Chinese-made treats this week, due to concerns over contamination—but it won’t be the last.
Already the rival retailer PetSmart has announced that it will follow suit in taking Chinese pet treats off its store shelves. Over 1,000 dog deaths have been linked to problems with the imported jerky treats, but this problem goes back years. The Food and Drug Administration has been investigating thousands of reports of pet illnesses linked to jerky treats going back to 2007, most of which involve Chinese products, though there’s been a spike since last October.

2007 pet food recalls
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The 2007 pet food recalls comprise the contamination and wide recall of many brands of cat and dog foods beginning in March 2007, and the ensuing developments involving the human food supply. The recalls in North America, Europe, and South Africa came in response to reports of renal failure in pets. Initially, the recalls were associated with the consumption of mostly wet pet foods made with wheat glutenfrom a single Chinese company. After more than three weeks of complaints from consumers, the recall began voluntarily with the Canadian company Menu Foods on 16 March 2007, when a company test showed sickness and death in some of the test animals. Soon after, there were numerous media reports of animal deaths as a result of kidney failure. In the following weeks, several other companies who received the contaminated wheat gluten also voluntarily recalled dozens of pet food brands. One month after the initial recall, contaminated rice protein from a different source in China was also identified as being associated with kidney failure in pets in the United States, while contaminated corn gluten was associated with kidney failure with pets in South Africa. As a result of investigating the 2007 pet food recalls, a broader Chinese protein export contamination investigation unfolded, raising concerns about the safety of the human food supply.
By the end of March, veterinary organizations reported more than 100 pet deaths among nearly 500 cases of kidney failure,[1] with one online database self-reporting as many as 3,600 deaths as of 11 April.[2][3]The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has received reports of several thousand cats and dogs who have died after eating contaminated food, but have only confirmed 14 cases, in part because there is no centralized government database of animal sickness or death in the United States, as there are with humans (such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention).[4][5] As a result, many sources speculate the actual number of affected pets may never be known, and experts are concerned that the actual death toll could potentially reach into the thousands.[6][7]

Overall, several major companies have recalled more than 5300 pet food products, with most of the recalls coming from Menu Foods.[4] The contamination was caused by melamine in the affected foods. The Chinese company behind the contaminated wheat gluten has initially denied any involvement in the contamination, but is cooperating with Chinese and American investigators.

Stop giving your pet food from China, unless you don’t mind them dying
10/23/13 11:44am by John Aravosis 49 Comments
http://pets.americablog.com/2013/10/sto ... t-die.html
Did you know that a few years back nearly 3 million Americans ate chickens that were fed poisonous Chinese pet food?
But the fun hardly stops there. Consumers have been plagued with Chinese poisonous toothpaste, dangerous tires that leave out a special safety feature, tainted baby milk, tainted pork, toxic rice, kidney-damaging cookies, cake and candies, bird-flu infected chicken, dying pigs, and toxic fish.

[jusplay4fun]

A Decade of Dangerous Food Imports from China

As I already posted, the pet food from China issue is the tip of the iceberg of Dangerous Chinese imports harming and even killing people in the China, USA, and Panama.

Executive Summary China has become an agricultural powerhouse and leading food exporter. Though supermarket labels may not always indicate it, a growing portion of the American diet is now made in China. In 2009, 70 percent of the apple juice, 43 percent of the processed mushrooms, 22 percent of the frozen spinach and 78 percent of the tilapia Americans ate came from China. Unfortunately, it’s not just China’s food that’s reaching American shores — it’s also China’s food safety problems. The shortcomings in China’s food safety system were highlighted when ingredients tainted with the chemical melamine entered the global food supply — including products from well-known brands like Mars, Heinz and Cadbury. Melamine-tainted milk products sickened hundreds of thousands of infants in China, and melamine contamination is believed to be responsible for thousands of pet deaths in the United States. Melamine adulteration garnered the most headlines, but systemic food safety failures in China have allowed unsafe foods onto global grocery store shelves. The Wild West business environment in China encourages food manufacturers to cut costs and corners. Even Chinese officials have publicly acknowledged their inability to regulate the country’s sprawling food production sector. U.S. food safety inspectors have been overwhelmed by the surging food imports from China since the country joined the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 2001. These international business deals allow trade to trump food safety and encourage U.S. agribusinesses and food manufacturers to source food ingredients in China where environmental, food safety and labor laws are weaker and regulatory oversight is lax.

Conclusion China’s WTO entry brought a flood of unsafe food to the United States, inundating the American diet with risky seafood, processed fruits and vegetables, and fresh produce. Although U.S. agribusiness promised the trade deal would be good for America and expand U.S. farm exports, it has only benefited corporate exporters of a few products like soybeans and poultry.

https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/sites ... 202011.pdf
About Food & Water Watch Food & Water Watch is a non-profit organization working with grassroots organizations around the world to create an economically and environmentally viable future. Through research, public and policymaker education, media and lobbying, we advocate policies that guarantee safe, wholesome food produced in a humane and sustainable manner and public, rather than private, control of water resources including oceans, rivers and groundwater. For more information, visit http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org.

Consumer Products China’s exports of unsafe products are by no means limited to food products. Forty percent of imported consumer goods come from China. This astonishing number is accompanied by a similarly large quantity of government alerts, warnings and recalls in response to these dangerous imports, at times because of serious injury or death.143 Between 2002 and 2010, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission recalled more than 1,500 Chinese products, representing 40 percent of all recalls. Some of the recalled products caused death and injury to children.144 Blood-Thinner Heparin: China produces more than half of the world’s heparin, an additive derived from hog intestines and used by major pharmaceutical companies in blood-thinning drugs.145 Poisonous heparin from China has been linked to at least 81 deaths in the United States alone.146 Antifreeze in Toothpaste: In 2006 and 2007, 365 Panamanians died after using cold medicine and toothpaste from China containing the chemical adulterant diethylene glycol used in antifreeze.147 The FDA has repeatedly found poisonous Chinese toothpaste entering the United States and has issued bans on several importers.148 Toxic Toys: In 2007, Chinese inspectors found that 20 percent of domestic toys were unsafe and had injured 10,000 children.149 During 2007, the United States recalled 45 million lead-tainted toys, mostly made in China, including 9 million from Mattel alone.150 After the United States banned the use of lead in toys, Chinese manufacturers switched to dangerous cadmium-based paints, prompting more recalls.151 Lead-Tainted Grocery Bags: Reusable shopping bags from China, increasingly popular with environmentally conscious consumers for their groceries, have been found to contain lead.152 Toxic Drywall: Millions of sheets of Chinese drywall were installed during the recent U.S. housing boom and in the reconstruction after hurricane Katrina. This drywall contained high levels of hydrogen sulfide that caused illnesses in thousands of unsuspecting homeowners and causing enormous corrosion-related property damage to tens of thousands of homes.153 Owners gutted thousands of homes after discovering the toxic emissions and filed lawsuits against the construction companies and drywall manufacturers.154

[mrswdk]

Mrswdk

How come you’re unwilling to admit anything negative about China?

I'm not and I have done previously.

[jimboston]

Mrswdk

How come you’re unwilling to admit anything negative about China?

I'm not and I have done previously.

I don’t see it.

Perhaps if you accepted facts, and admitted they’re not perfect either...perhaps more people would buy your anti-US stuff.
You’d appear balanced and reasonable. As it is now you appear to be a completely biased China fan.

Prove me wrong.

[armati]

I recall hearing about "tainted" foods from China.

These things happen, over the years Ive heard of dozens of restaurants being closed or N.American food product recalls etc.
We have a resturant called White spot, for years the joke was whats the first sign of botulism?....white spots.

Notice one company from China is Mattel, thats an american company manufacturing in china.
Actually thats Fisher Price, lots of american owned kids toys manufactured in China.

These things are not good thats for sure, but North america sure keeps taking the products, Dollarama and walmart are extremely popular.

Heck the shrimp from just about anywhere has poisons in it now.
Pacific Herring bleed from their eyes and fins.

People arnt going to stop buying product from china, its too cheap and businesses wont stop importing from china, there is too much profit.

Since we know beyond a doubt we have to be carefull with chinese products it might be wise to improve inspections.

Getting the american companies to improve their manufacturing methods in China would help too.

And as long as we raise our meats the way we do, we are going to keep getting ,bird flu,mad cow,swine flu and fish diseases.
Lets not forget the Glyphosate on our vegetables and fruits too.

Im just thinking this tainted products might be a global issue, china might be more prevalent because they produce so darn much were going to see it more often from China than Chili etc.