immigration

[billy07]

After just reading an article, about 5 British muslim lawyers. And their absolute lack of respect and milking of the system of the country they live in. I thought i`d write this, to hear others thoughts.

When Immigrants or asylum seekers come to any country they should be treat in exactly the same way as the inhabitants of that land, but over and over again you hear of them being put to the front of housing waiting lists, medical waiting lists and social security.

I myself am not on any of these lists but if something should occur and i needed any of these institutions. I certainly would`nt be happy about being left waiting while somebody who has contributed nothing, was ushered to the front.

This has to stop in my opinion. Especially as most asylum seekers ar`nt even arriving in britain from the land they are fleeing. That speaks for itself in my opinion!

Am i racist? Well of course the pc brigade will deem me so, but then i don`t care what they assume, as in my opinion they are bringing Britain towards chaos.

[Heimdall]

Do you have any links regarding the article?

[graeme89]

You should differentiate between asylum seekers and immigrants. It is actually quite difficult and expensive to immigrate to the UK, if you do it legally that is. It costs thousands in application fee's and here's a fact : for the 1st two years on arrival the applicant has " No recourse to public funds ". Meaning no benefits of any kind. After 2 years you have to pass the test (quite difficult actually), pay another £750 fee and then you get leave to remain.
This of course doesn't stop people ripping the system, ie illegals. The problem in the UK is not that the laws are inadequate, they're just not being enforced strongly enough

[heavycola]

After just reading an article, about 5 British muslim lawyers. And their absolute lack of respect and milking of the system of the country they live in. I thought i`d write this, to hear others thoughts.

When Immigrants or asylum seekers come to any country they should be treat in exactly the same way as the inhabitants of that land, but over and over again you hear of them being put to the front of housing waiting lists, medical waiting lists and social security.

I myself am not on any of these lists but if something should occur and i needed any of these institutions. I certainly would`nt be happy about being left waiting while somebody who has contributed nothing, was ushered to the front.

This has to stop in my opinion. Especially as most asylum seekers ar`nt even arriving in britain from the land they are fleeing. That speaks for itself in my opinion!

Am i racist? Well of course the pc brigade will deem me so, but then i don`t care what they assume, as in my opinion they are bringing Britain towards chaos.

1) an asylum seeker is not the same thing as an immigrant. Do you understand what asylum seeker means? Do you realise that the large majority are sent back to their countries of origin?

2) your rant about housing lists etc is a myth. Please post any evidence you have to support your conjecture. I know you don't have any.

3) Why would local authorities parachute immigrants to the front of these lists? Why? please explain.

[graeme89]

Here is a few of questions from the Life in the UK Test, which must be passed by all immigrants :

1.What is a quango?

2. What % of children live in one parent families?

3.On which matters can the Northern Ireland assembly make decisions?

OK the point I'm making is that it's not a breeze, it takes a few months of study for most applicants

[Heimdall]

Here is a few of questions from the Life in the UK Test, which must be passed by all immigrants :

1.What is a quango?

2. What % of children live in one parent families?

3.On which matters can the Northern Ireland assembly make decisions?

OK the point I'm making is that it's not a breeze, it takes a few months of study for most applicants

I bet most British-born citizens don't even know the answers

[graeme89]

You're right. I think that maybe 40% of the British population would fail the test. That's being generous.

[comic boy]

Illegal immigrants/Assylum seekers do not get put on the top of any waiting lists and for the most part recieve little or no benefits. Its interesting that he targets Muslim lawyers as having no respect ( for what ? ) presumably Christian,Jewish,Budhist,Pagan and Atheist lawyers are all
saints

[billy07]

Illegal immigrants/Assylum seekers do not get put on the top of any waiting lists and for the most part recieve little or no benefits. Its interesting that he targets Muslim lawyers as having no respect ( for what ? ) presumably Christian,Jewish,Budhist,Pagan and Atheist lawyers are all
saints

did`nt youread it properly?

And of course i know lawyers are bent, but when it comes to one supplying a forged passport. I think that is a little too bent.

[billy07]

Do you have any links regarding the article?

notw.co.uk

[billy07]

You should differentiate between asylum seekers and immigrants. It is actually quite difficult and expensive to immigrate to the UK, if you do it legally that is. It costs thousands in application fee's and here's a fact : for the 1st two years on arrival the applicant has " No recourse to public funds ". Meaning no benefits of any kind. After 2 years you have to pass the test (quite difficult actually), pay another £750 fee and then you get leave to remain.
This of course doesn't stop people ripping the system, ie illegals. The problem in the UK is not that the laws are inadequate, they're just not being enforced strongly enough

Yes you are right there is a vast difference between legal immigrants who bring much needed skills to the country and asylum seekers.

[billy07]

After just reading an article, about 5 British muslim lawyers. And their absolute lack of respect and milking of the system of the country they live in. I thought i`d write this, to hear others thoughts.

When Immigrants or asylum seekers come to any country they should be treat in exactly the same way as the inhabitants of that land, but over and over again you hear of them being put to the front of housing waiting lists, medical waiting lists and social security.

I myself am not on any of these lists but if something should occur and i needed any of these institutions. I certainly would`nt be happy about being left waiting while somebody who has contributed nothing, was ushered to the front.

This has to stop in my opinion. Especially as most asylum seekers ar`nt even arriving in britain from the land they are fleeing. That speaks for itself in my opinion!

Am i racist? Well of course the pc brigade will deem me so, but then i don`t care what they assume, as in my opinion they are bringing Britain towards chaos.

1) an asylum seeker is not the same thing as an immigrant. Do you understand what asylum seeker means? Do you realise that the large majority are sent back to their countries of origin?

2) your rant about housing lists etc is a myth. Please post any evidence you have to support your conjecture. I know you don't have any.

3) Why would local authorities parachute immigrants to the front of these lists? Why? please explain.

To avoid the racism card being played, having lived in a dispersal area i have seen it.

Do you have evidence to the contrary?

[heavycola]

After just reading an article, about 5 British muslim lawyers. And their absolute lack of respect and milking of the system of the country they live in. I thought i`d write this, to hear others thoughts.

When Immigrants or asylum seekers come to any country they should be treat in exactly the same way as the inhabitants of that land, but over and over again you hear of them being put to the front of housing waiting lists, medical waiting lists and social security.

I myself am not on any of these lists but if something should occur and i needed any of these institutions. I certainly would`nt be happy about being left waiting while somebody who has contributed nothing, was ushered to the front.

This has to stop in my opinion. Especially as most asylum seekers ar`nt even arriving in britain from the land they are fleeing. That speaks for itself in my opinion!

Am i racist? Well of course the pc brigade will deem me so, but then i don`t care what they assume, as in my opinion they are bringing Britain towards chaos.

1) an asylum seeker is not the same thing as an immigrant. Do you understand what asylum seeker means? Do you realise that the large majority are sent back to their countries of origin?

2) your rant about housing lists etc is a myth. Please post any evidence you have to support your conjecture. I know you don't have any.

3) Why would local authorities parachute immigrants to the front of these lists? Why? please explain.

To avoid the racism card being played, having lived in a dispersal area i have seen it.

Do you have evidence to the contrary?

You have seen it? You have had access to the council's housing list?

evidence:
this is a recent story that was in the social housing industry's trade magazine about an independent report into these perceptions. Funnily enough the professor who conducted teh research found that they wre only myths.
In barking & dagenham, which is where the BNP have stirred up so much hatred and distrust about this issue, only one out of 185 social housing lets last year went to a non-national.

Have you got any evidence, apart from seeing non-whites on your local estate?

[AlgyTaylor]

Aye, this country (the UK) is going to the dogs, blah blah blah

If you dislike it that much, f*ck off to another country.

[billy07]

After just reading an article, about 5 British muslim lawyers. And their absolute lack of respect and milking of the system of the country they live in. I thought i`d write this, to hear others thoughts.

When Immigrants or asylum seekers come to any country they should be treat in exactly the same way as the inhabitants of that land, but over and over again you hear of them being put to the front of housing waiting lists, medical waiting lists and social security.

I myself am not on any of these lists but if something should occur and i needed any of these institutions. I certainly would`nt be happy about being left waiting while somebody who has contributed nothing, was ushered to the front.

This has to stop in my opinion. Especially as most asylum seekers ar`nt even arriving in britain from the land they are fleeing. That speaks for itself in my opinion!

Am i racist? Well of course the pc brigade will deem me so, but then i don`t care what they assume, as in my opinion they are bringing Britain towards chaos.

1) an asylum seeker is not the same thing as an immigrant. Do you understand what asylum seeker means? Do you realise that the large majority are sent back to their countries of origin?

2) your rant about housing lists etc is a myth. Please post any evidence you have to support your conjecture. I know you don't have any.

3) Why would local authorities parachute immigrants to the front of these lists? Why? please explain.

To avoid the racism card being played, having lived in a dispersal area i have seen it.

Do you have evidence to the contrary?

You have seen it? You have had access to the council's housing list?

evidence:
this is a recent story that was in the social housing industry's trade magazine about an independent report into these perceptions. Funnily enough the professor who conducted teh research found that they wre only myths.
In barking & dagenham, which is where the BNP have stirred up so much hatred and distrust about this issue, only one out of 185 social housing lets last year went to a non-national.

Have you got any evidence, apart from seeing non-whites on your local estate?

Yes last year maybe, but obviously before that. the local authorities had a diffrerent way of letting their properties, maybe that area had been totally swamped in previous years?

Why else would the bnp be able to stir up so much tension?

I don`t live on an estate either.

[billy07]

Aye, this country (the UK) is going to the dogs, blah blah blah

If you dislike it that much, f*ck off to another country.

thank you ever so much for the inteligent input. hope it didn`t interfere with your subbuteo! hehe

[heavycola]

After just reading an article, about 5 British muslim lawyers. And their absolute lack of respect and milking of the system of the country they live in. I thought i`d write this, to hear others thoughts.

When Immigrants or asylum seekers come to any country they should be treat in exactly the same way as the inhabitants of that land, but over and over again you hear of them being put to the front of housing waiting lists, medical waiting lists and social security.

I myself am not on any of these lists but if something should occur and i needed any of these institutions. I certainly would`nt be happy about being left waiting while somebody who has contributed nothing, was ushered to the front.

This has to stop in my opinion. Especially as most asylum seekers ar`nt even arriving in britain from the land they are fleeing. That speaks for itself in my opinion!

Am i racist? Well of course the pc brigade will deem me so, but then i don`t care what they assume, as in my opinion they are bringing Britain towards chaos.

1) an asylum seeker is not the same thing as an immigrant. Do you understand what asylum seeker means? Do you realise that the large majority are sent back to their countries of origin?

2) your rant about housing lists etc is a myth. Please post any evidence you have to support your conjecture. I know you don't have any.

3) Why would local authorities parachute immigrants to the front of these lists? Why? please explain.

To avoid the racism card being played, having lived in a dispersal area i have seen it.

Do you have evidence to the contrary?

You have seen it? You have had access to the council's housing list?

evidence:
this is a recent story that was in the social housing industry's trade magazine about an independent report into these perceptions. Funnily enough the professor who conducted teh research found that they wre only myths.
In barking & dagenham, which is where the BNP have stirred up so much hatred and distrust about this issue, only one out of 185 social housing lets last year went to a non-national.

Have you got any evidence, apart from seeing non-whites on your local estate?

Yes last year maybe, but obviously before that. the local authorities had a diffrerent way of letting their properties, maybe that area had been totally swamped in previous years?

Why else would the bnp be able to stir up so much tension?

I don`t live on an estate either.

i said your local estate, not your estate.

Can you explain how you know that local authorities used to let their properties differently?

[billy07]

i said your local estate, not your estate.

Can you explain how you know that local authorities used to let their properties differently?[/quote]i didn`t say i knew. It`s just rather obvious that that was a dispersal area that had taken it`s quotation and maybe more.

Why would the bnp get such an interest if as you say only 1 non-national family had been moved there.

I spend alot of time in Portsmouth which was used as a dispersal area. Six years ago there was very few ethnics there but now theres quite a few africans and middle-eastern people there, but the government has been very careful not to over-do it there.

[Napoleon Ier]

3) Why would local authorities parachute immigrants to the front of these lists? Why? please explain.

1) To pressurize english wages.
2) To invest in a more potent voting bloc.

[comic boy]

3) Why would local authorities parachute immigrants to the front of these lists? Why? please explain.

1) To pressurize english wages.
2) To invest in a more potent voting bloc.

Well Napolean as your an immigrant please detail the benefits you/your family are recieving.

[Napoleon Ier]

3) Why would local authorities parachute immigrants to the front of these lists? Why? please explain.

1) To pressurize english wages.
2) To invest in a more potent voting bloc.

Well Napolean as your an immigrant please detail the benefits you/your family are recieving.

We haven't asked for any, and we're form an EU country. Also I intend to vamoose soon, I wouldn't quite say I'm an immigrant.
The only bizarre thing is that my parents got voting cards in '05, and after trying to return them just got told we could vote anyways .
We voted Tory

[comic boy]

3) Why would local authorities parachute immigrants to the front of these lists? Why? please explain.

1) To pressurize english wages.
2) To invest in a more potent voting bloc.

Well Napolean as your an immigrant please detail the benefits you/your family are recieving.

We haven't asked for any, and we're form an EU country. Also I intend to vamoose soon, I wouldn't quite say I'm an immigrant.
The only bizarre thing is that my parents got voting cards in '05, and after trying to return them just got told we could vote anyways .
We voted Tory

Sensible decision, both main parties are Tory now so may as well vote for the original.