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Is American media Liberal, Conservative or Neutral

Poll ended at Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:30 pm

 
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Postby luns101 on Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:46 pm

Nephilim wrote:serbia, luns, fosho, and anyone else: please, i beg you, before it's too late, get an education. i have been fortunate in this area, and i can tell you, american media is all conservative. everything is done for posturing, ratings, and making revenue. they do not care about you or any political position. it is completely naive to assume that the political agenda of a media conglomerate is determined by the "personal beliefs" of their respective CEOs. in fact, it's naive to think media conglomerates have strictly political agendas; they exist to make money (of course, this is bound up w/ politics, but the bottom line is the key). think about it this way: the GOP is the party of big business, always has been. major media corporations are big businesses....hmmm.....

but here's the key issue: since the US has such a weak labor/progressive history and a huge imperialistic tradition in the last 50+ years, pretty much every mainstream media outlet we have is conservative, relative to the rest of the world. i'm sure there are tons of other factors, and i hope someone here can educate us. there's just not much of a true "liberal" element in the US, therefore the media is not liberal as such. just relative degrees of conservative.

as far as the usefulness of the terms, i agree w/ qeee, but we gotta work w/ what we've got. and to all you fox news lovers, the truth is you've been duped into thinking dems, msnbc, cnn=liberal, GOP and foxnews=conservative. your viewing and listening patterns simply match your voting patterns. i attribute this to the superior savvy nature of the GOP and rupert murdoch's people. the thing is, it's easier for you to think of things in broad (and hateful) categories, and it's much easier for politicians and companies to sell you shit when you think this way. so they put it out there, and you suck it rite up.

until you learn to think for yourself and understand things from at least a marginally global/rational perspective (this is where education comes in), you're just a pawn for the best propagandist/marketer out there.....

please stop ruining the world and the reputation of the US by supporting bush, rush, hannity, savage, etc........


Sorry, but that sounds incredibly condescending. I've never mentioned that I like Sean Hannity or Michael Savage in this thread. Can you not see that your own assessment of people like myself is based on your own personal bias?
What you said was really very pompous.
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Postby Koesen on Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:57 pm

By my (Dutch) standards, American tv and politics come in three flavors: right wing, really right wing and nut case.

It doesn't really matter, though, since it's hard to get a political message across in the 35 seconds American tv allows between one commercial block and the next.
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Postby umanouski on Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:23 pm

qeee1 wrote:liberal and conservative are outdated terms, considering the general trajectory of both parties seems largely the same.

He's right, but the two sides have different ways to get the job done.
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Postby vtmarik on Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:54 pm

umanouski wrote:
qeee1 wrote:liberal and conservative are outdated terms, considering the general trajectory of both parties seems largely the same.

He's right, but the two sides have different ways to get the job done.


Both parties appeal to the basest motivations in human nature in order to get shit done.

Different ways? Not really.
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Postby Coleman on Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:04 pm

Well, they have different ultimate goals and taxation tendencies. But it doesn't really matter so long as Fox News is always around to kiss the current president's ass at every opportunity no matter how much of a screw up he is. Or if Hilary wins 'she' is. I think if Hilary wins I'll be adding aye to a lot of my sentences.
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