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The next phase of the lockdowns

Postby Doc_Brown on Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:32 pm

During the Covid lockdowns, there were multiple predictions that it was only a matter of time before those in power decided to make use of the lockdown blueprint and apply it to whatever other situation was deemed a sufficient emergency (I recall climate change and gun violence proliferation both being mentioned in news interviews as situations potentially approach a "state of emergency" sufficient for "extreme action"). It looks like those predictions are finally starting to come to pass:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/12/04/ ... ting-2024/

Oxfordshire County Council yesterday approved plans to lock residents into one of six zones to ‘save the planet’ from global warming. The latest stage in the ’15 minute city’ agenda is to place electronic gates on key roads in and out of the city, confining residents to their own neighbourhoods.

Under the new scheme if residents want to leave their zone they will need permission from the Council who gets to decide who is worthy of freedom and who isn’t. Under the new scheme residents will be allowed to leave their zone a maximum of 100 days per year, but in order to even gain this every resident will have to register their car details with the council who will then track their movements via smart cameras round the city.
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Re: The next phase of the lockdowns

Postby bigtoughralf on Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:23 pm

I mean, when your source says things like 'In my opinion Britain has been edging closer to naked communism for at least half a century' does that not make you pause to consider its reliability?

This appears to apply only to private passenger vehicles between 7am and 7pm and is basically just an attempt to make people cut down on commuting to work by car. It's pretty normal for European cities to take measures to reduce air pollution and try to prevent their residents getting lung cancer/the planet from over-heating.

We also have laws against things like pickpocketing and sexual assault and punish people who do things like that quite strictly.
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Re: The next phase of the lockdowns

Postby karel on Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:48 pm

i wont wear a mask,never have never will,and i wont comply with any fake lame ass lock downs,all fake crap just get over the fake covid crap,its not real
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Re: The next phase of the lockdowns

Postby HitRed on Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:50 pm

The air must be very bad in Europe.
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Re: The next phase of the lockdowns

Postby Doc_Brown on Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:25 am

bigtoughralf wrote:I mean, when your source says things like 'In my opinion Britain has been edging closer to naked communism for at least half a century' does that not make you pause to consider its reliability?

Absolutely. I found the same information from 3 other sources that are much more mainstream. I make it a point to double-check information and make sure it's verifiable before spreading it.
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Re: The next phase of the lockdowns

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:57 am

bigtoughralf wrote:We also have laws against things like pickpocketing and sexual assault and punish people who do things like that quite strictly.


PINELLAS COUNTY, Fla. — An Odessa man has been arrested after he assaulted a police horse without provocation.

According to the arrest report, two mounted St. Petersburg officers were on duty around two in the morning on Saturday. Their horses were wearing their appropriate police insignia.

The officers claim that Alisha Lalani, 27, walked up to one of the horses and delivered an open handed slap to the rear of the animal.

Lalani claimed that he was unaware that he wasn’t allowed to strike a police horse.

He was promptly arrested and faces a charge of battery on a police horse.

https://nbc-2.com/news/crime/2022/12/05 ... e-on-butt/

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Re: The next phase of the lockdowns

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:24 am

HitRed wrote:The air must be very bad in Europe.


It's bad everywhere. Have you ever been up in a plane? A great brown blanket hangs over every major city on earth.

Relative to its population density, Europe is actually doing well, with (mostly) fuel-efficient small cars and a lot of use of public transit. In absolute terms, Asia is the worst, but relative to population density I suspect North America is the worst.

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bigtoughralf wrote:I mean, when your source says things like 'In my opinion Britain has been edging closer to naked communism for at least half a century' does that not make you pause to consider its reliability?

Absolutely. I found the same information from 3 other sources that are much more mainstream. I make it a point to double-check information and make sure it's verifiable before spreading it.


I note that you didn't reply to the rest of ralf's post:
bigtoughralf wrote:This appears to apply only to private passenger vehicles between 7am and 7pm and is basically just an attempt to make people cut down on commuting to work by car. It's pretty normal for European cities to take measures to reduce air pollution and try to prevent their residents getting lung cancer/the planet from over-heating.

This doesn't seem to me to be any kind of lockdown. It's just to reduce the amount of driving. People are completely free to go where they will by walking, biking, or using public transit.

Swimming, boating, and hot-air ballooning also seem to be permissible.
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Re: The next phase of the lockdowns

Postby jimboston on Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:01 am

karel wrote:i wont wear a mask,never have never will,and i wont comply with any fake lame ass lock downs,all fake crap just get over the fake covid crap,its not real


More super intelligent and introspective commentary from karel.
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Re: The next phase of the lockdowns

Postby Doc_Brown on Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:24 am

Dukasaur wrote:I note that you didn't reply to the rest of ralf's post:
bigtoughralf wrote:This appears to apply only to private passenger vehicles between 7am and 7pm and is basically just an attempt to make people cut down on commuting to work by car. It's pretty normal for European cities to take measures to reduce air pollution and try to prevent their residents getting lung cancer/the planet from over-heating.

This doesn't seem to me to be any kind of lockdown. It's just to reduce the amount of driving. People are completely free to go where they will by walking, biking, or using public transit.

Swimming, boating, and hot-air ballooning also seem to be permissible.

Well, arguing with ralf is a bit of a tar baby. Also, I didn't bother responding yet because he didn't bother to cite anything backing up his claim that it's only 7am-7pm, and I've been trying to find any article about this to actually support that. I agree that it seems to be a limit on private transportation, but all the sources I've read seem to say that your household, collectively, may drive your cars outside of a relatively small neighborhood a maximum of 100 days (or possibly trips? It's unclear) per year.
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Re: The next phase of the lockdowns

Postby bigtoughralf on Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:16 pm

Doc_Brown wrote:I didn't bother responding yet because he didn't bother to cite anything backing up his claim that it's only 7am-7pm, and I've been trying to find any article about this to actually support that.


You can't have spent very long trying, the link I found is quoted in the blog post you shared in your OP.

Your OP has basically argued against himself with his choice of references. There is an old Indian proverb that I think has some relevance to this thread: 'don't unquestioningly accept the content of blog posts written by bipolar old men'.
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Re: The next phase of the lockdowns

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:16 pm

Doc_Brown wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:I note that you didn't reply to the rest of ralf's post:
bigtoughralf wrote:This appears to apply only to private passenger vehicles between 7am and 7pm and is basically just an attempt to make people cut down on commuting to work by car. It's pretty normal for European cities to take measures to reduce air pollution and try to prevent their residents getting lung cancer/the planet from over-heating.

This doesn't seem to me to be any kind of lockdown. It's just to reduce the amount of driving. People are completely free to go where they will by walking, biking, or using public transit.

Swimming, boating, and hot-air ballooning also seem to be permissible.

Well, arguing with ralf is a bit of a tar baby. Also, I didn't bother responding yet because he didn't bother to cite anything backing up his claim that it's only 7am-7pm, and I've been trying to find any article about this to actually support that. I agree that it seems to be a limit on private transportation, but all the sources I've read seem to say that your household, collectively, may drive your cars outside of a relatively small neighborhood a maximum of 100 days (or possibly trips? It's unclear) per year.


https://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/residents/roads-and-transport/connecting-oxfordshire/traffic-filters
Oxfordshire County Council wrote:What are traffic filters
When they are operating, private cars will not be allowed through the traffic filters without a permit. All other vehicles including buses, coaches, taxis, vans, mopeds, motorbikes and HGVs will be allowed at all times. Residents in Oxford and some areas just outside the city will be able to apply for a permit allowing them to drive through the traffic filters for up to 100 days per year.


The traffic filters will operate seven days a week from 7am to 7pm, apart from the traffic filters on Marston Ferry Road and Hollow Way, which will not operate on Sundays. This is because traffic levels in these parts of the city are significantly lower on Sundays than at other times of the week.


Why we're proposing traffic filters
Across our county, we want to reduce unnecessary journeys by private vehicles and make walking, cycling, public and shared transport the natural first choice.

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Re: The next phase of the lockdowns

Postby bigtoughralf on Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:18 pm

Hey look, Duk was also able to find the same article quite quickly.

Did Doc not read his own post very carefully before sharing it? Surely not.
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