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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:38 am

2dimes wrote:Did any of you buy the new ABBA recording?


No, but last night I bought the new Spoons compilation album.

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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby 2dimes on Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:57 am

Tell no lies. You liked Sandy Horne, right?

I did.
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:26 am

2dimes wrote:Tell no lies. You liked Sandy Horne, right?

I did.


Yeah, she's still hot.

We saw them last night at a club here in the Falls.

Amazing that a band that used to sell out 2500 seat theatres can now be seen at a pub with fewer than 60 seats. (Actually the nominal max capacity for the room is over 100 but with covid restrictions, bars in Ontario are currently restricted to 50% capacity. So exactly 57 patrons.)

It wasn't the full band, just Gord and Sandy, but that's the heart and soul of the band. They were amazing. Gord's voice is still spot-on, which is so rare with old rockers. Sandy's voice is not quite there any more, but her bass riffs were still just as passionate as ever.

Interesting bit of trivia. I thought they were still a couple. Apparently their romantic involvement ended in the early 90s but they stayed friends and still play in the band together.

Anyway, bought the compilation album. Vinyl, not CD. Looking forward to listening to it tonight!
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby 2dimes on Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:38 am

That's a great story. I had to search for Sandy's first name.

Did they have other players or just backing tracks?

I wonder if their keyboard player still with Honeymoon Suite? I will have to check that out.
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby JdeV 100 on Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:07 am

jusplay4fun wrote:1) If poetry has no rules for syntax, punctuation, form, or rhyme, how does the common person like me recognize it as poetry?

It isn't that poetry "has no rules". Like music, common rules and divergences from them are critical to the finished piece. Daring to share something that didn't glibly conform to convention, like any experimental or found art, is part of the thrill for the artist. Good graffiti gets whitewashed. So what? Some audiences wouldn't have it any other way. Others prefer limericks and such. And all is well and good, on its day.
2) Why misspell "werse"? (I assume it stands for worst).

This is a poem about ego in everything. This Be The Verse is a universal complaint about parents as the source of frustrations, importantly titled. My poem is about any subject you can think of as a source of frustrations, with a tongue-in-cheek reference. Titles that refer to other poems invite a comparison of themes or styles and might proffer a different view. There is a complex political theme as well but it isn't a thought I want to seed, just a suggestion of trolling and exhibiting end-times mental disorders in response to an item about the weather.
3) Why end the poem with "there r"? It seems a misspelled word, a shortened version (of "there are"), an incomplete thought, or a typo. Perhaps it is meant to stimulate thought; I am not sure it does.

Clearly it does. The title/opening line also contains there. The poem does not end with the word "there". It could all be thought provoking. If you prefer not to think on it I don't really find that you have delved into the meaning of the piece and showed me the inner workings of your mind so that I could improve on the thing; but I like mixing in a bit of SMS-speak with the cummings chaos, it often highlights and contemporises the stream of consciousness in a given line.
4) You apparently refer to ONE storm, then discuss "storms in california"

I didn't discuss one or several storms, I wrote a short poem around those headlines, and the first line is conversational, someone telling the yarn: "This one storm..." and actually if you go to the sources linked you will note that reflects the reporting.
5) The summary, for me, and the central idea in your poem is that storms are helpful for some and harmful for others. The same can be said for many other events in nature and in the world.

But you ignored the line that makes it not that at all - about the absurdity of the reader, and the reader's opinion on this differentially reported story, having significance. Duk's Right Guard comment was closer.
6) I am of the opinion that poetry is aimed at a small audience and most people do not bother to read it, much less trying to understand most of it. My recollection is that most poets die very poor financially as they do not produce best sellers while they are alive.

This comment is committing a category error - an artistic effort is not weighed up against a stock trade, and of course most people don't die rich. Anyway that isn't about a poem.
7) The one guy on CC who could likely give you some decent feedback no longer posts on CC these days.

Your feedback was mostly just rude. I take your word for it there was a guy once.
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:18 am

Art is Art. I am sorry you find my comments rude; that was not my intent. But that is my opinion about much of what I read as poetry.
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby JdeV 100 on Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:23 am

I appreciate the apology, no worries. Pleased we chatted. The poem reflects my own frustrations with conversing about the news over the internet so it had most immediately been inspired by the forum, and it is my watchword for anyone partaking.

Anyways,

Happy New Year.
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:49 am

JdeV 100 wrote:I appreciate the apology, no worries. Pleased we chatted. The poem reflects my own frustrations with conversing about the news over the internet so it had most immediately been inspired by the forum, and it is my watchword for anyone partaking.

Anyways,

Happy New Year.


Thanks, JdeV. I try to give Art a chance and a look. I realize that some Art is not for me.

I enjoy poetry, but it usually has to be explained to me and discussion helps me understand better what the intent of the poet is. From there I can develop a greater appreciation of the artist or poet and his/her work and effort.

I was usually not the student who easily grasped a work of fiction or poetry in classes in high school and later in college. I had to go the Library to look up rather esoteric knowledge and perspectives on some short stories that baffled me. I did have a great Professor when I studied poetry in college and he made it really FUN and interesting for me. I can still recite some lines from Shakespeare and Frost and even Robert Burns from that course.

And Happy New Year, too..!
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:06 pm

2dimes wrote:
Did they have other players or just backing tracks?

Gord and Sandy were the only live musicians. A drum machine replaced the drummer and Scott's keyboards were pre-recorded.

Interestingly, Gord also continues to play with Flock of Seagulls. Both the Spoons and Flock of Seagulls are still active bands, although gigs are now far enough apart that he can (usually) manage to play both. However, tonight the Seagulls are in Las Vegas and he said last night that he won't be there. Not going to deal with the border hassles; pre-recorded his guitar parts and transmitted them. A lot of stuff that would have been considered bizarre twenty years ago is now commonplace.

I wonder if their keyboard player still with Honeymoon Suite? I will have to check that out.

You mean Rob Preuss? He only played with Honeymoon Suite for a little while and then moved to doing Broadway.


JdeV 100 wrote:It isn't that poetry "has no rules". Like music, common rules and divergences from them are critical to the finished piece. Daring to share something that didn't glibly conform to convention, like any experimental or found art, is part of the thrill for the artist.

It's obvious that you invest more thought in it than I originally gave you credit for. Thanks for the explanations.
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby mookiemcgee on Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:10 pm

Oh jesus another thread filled with Canadians named Gord/Gordon/Gordy
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:11 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:Oh jesus another thread filled with Canadians named Gord/Gordon/Gordy

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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby JdeV 100 on Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:14 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:
JdeV 100 wrote:I appreciate the apology, no worries. Pleased we chatted. The poem reflects my own frustrations with conversing about the news over the internet so it had most immediately been inspired by the forum, and it is my watchword for anyone partaking.

Anyways,

Happy New Year.


Thanks, JdeV. I try to give Art a chance and a look. I realize that some Art is not for me.

I enjoy poetry, but it usually has to be explained to me and discussion helps me understand better what the intent of the poet is. From there I can develop a greater appreciation of the artist or poet and his/her work and effort.

I was usually not the student who easily grasped a work of fiction or poetry in classes in high school and later in college. I had to go the Library to look up rather esoteric knowledge and perspectives on some short stories that baffled me. I did have a great Professor when I studied poetry in college and he made it really FUN and interesting for me. I can still recite some lines from Shakespeare and Frost and even Robert Burns from that course.

And Happy New Year, too..!

You're great, that is what it's about!

I'll add, one evening about 3 years ago I spotted an old man struggling to get his zimmer frame past a big Roman column at a local arts centre. I offered to help him in, and when he looked up, lo and behold: my cool art teacher from when I was 14 or 15. One of very few teachers I got along with, probably one of my bad influences, he once drew a sweet caricature of me and I recall sitting and discussing philosophy with him all that morning. He needed a lot of help to find his event, a film society meeting, and I was running a little late for the poetry but it felt like a job well-done and memories brought back. As I left the room, he began to introduce himself: "Hello everyone. For those of you who don't know, I am the resurrection of Jesus Christ." I did check with a thumbs-up that he wasn't too much trouble for them. But does he think that? Is he having a laugh? Is he profound? Does everyone essentially have their own way of making pompous claims for their worth? So I guess that's another key inspiration for my groundbreaking short poem. And if he can say that, surely we can post odd poems in unexpected places. :)
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby JdeV 100 on Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:15 pm

Dukasaur wrote:Thanks for the explanations.

We're all cool, respect to you. Thank you. :)
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby 2dimes on Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:55 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
2dimes wrote:
Did they have other players or just backing tracks?

Gord and Sandy were the only live musicians. A drum machine replaced the drummer and Scott's keyboards were pre-recorded.

Interestingly, Gord also continues to play with Flock of Seagulls. Both the Spoons and Flock of Seagulls are still active bands, although gigs are now far enough apart that he can (usually) manage to play both. However, tonight the Seagulls are in Las Vegas and he said last night that he won't be there. Not going to deal with the border hassles; pre-recorded his guitar parts and transmitted them. A lot of stuff that would have been considered bizarre twenty years ago is now commonplace.

I wonder if their keyboard player still with Honeymoon Suite? I will have to check that out.

You mean Rob Preuss? He only played with Honeymoon Suite for a little while and then moved to doing Broadway.



Yes. Thanks. I should probably still go scope out some stuff about him on the interwebs,

I'm reasonably sure we are part of a small minority that would really apreciated live guitars at a Flock of Seagulls show.

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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby RaulR on Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:21 am

Nice post
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby Serbia on Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:49 pm

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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby jimboston on Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:15 am

JdeV 100 wrote:But you might have all been more familiar than that with Philip Larkin's This Be The Verse and recognised something of the style of ee cummings in my layout, and since you couldn't make sense of it as prose, I am taking the lame feedback as a culture fail for the forum. There is also some evidence from my earlier posts that I can quote and I'm not that illiterate. It's a very good poem in my book, I just thought it might have been nice to try it on you here, since I'm locked down. Ah, well.


I think poetry sucks… sorry.

If that makes me “uncultured” so be it.

I’ve been to Opera and enjoyed it… standard Plays? yep… Musicals, who doesn’t love a good Musical?

I’ve been to live Jazz performances and found them thrilling.

I’ve gone to classical orchestral performances… The Boston Symphony Orchestra is world renown and I’ve been many times.

I’m also into live music in general and enjoy rock, rap, country/blues (not so much pop country), some older bluegrass, of course alternative/college rock, etc. Other “pop” stuff… movies & TV of course. Live sports… I don’t get crazy about specific teams but do enjoy seeing sporting events live.

I appreciate art and have been to many museums in both Europe and the US.

However, I just don’t like poetry.

So therefore I must be “uncultured”.
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:26 am

jimboston wrote:
JdeV 100 wrote:But you might have all been more familiar than that with Philip Larkin's This Be The Verse and recognised something of the style of ee cummings in my layout, and since you couldn't make sense of it as prose, I am taking the lame feedback as a culture fail for the forum. There is also some evidence from my earlier posts that I can quote and I'm not that illiterate. It's a very good poem in my book, I just thought it might have been nice to try it on you here, since I'm locked down. Ah, well.


I think poetry sucks… sorry.

If that makes me “uncultured” so be it.

I’ve been to Opera and enjoyed it… standard Plays? yep… Musicals, who doesn’t love a good Musical?

I’ve been to live Jazz performances and found them thrilling.

I’ve gone to classical orchestral performances… The Boston Symphony Orchestra is world renown and I’ve been many times.

I’m also into live music in general and enjoy rock, rap, country/blues (not so much pop country), some older bluegrass, of course alternative/college rock, etc. Other “pop” stuff… movies & TV of course. Live sports… I don’t get crazy about specific teams but do enjoy seeing sporting events live.

I appreciate art and have been to many museums in both Europe and the US.

However, I just don’t like poetry.

So therefore I must be “uncultured”.


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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby JdeV 100 on Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:58 pm

jimboston wrote:sucks…

If that makes me “uncultured” so be it.

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Postby 2dimes on Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:33 am

I like poems about Squirrels that rhyme.

https://www.poetrynook.com/poem/squirrel-1 wrote:The Squirrel - anonymous

Whisky, frisky,
Hippity hop,
Up he goes
To the tree top!

Whirly, twirly,
Round and round,
Down he scampers
To the ground.

Furly, curly,
What a tail!
Tall as a feather,
Broad as a sail!

Where's his supper?
In the shell,
Snappity, crackity,
He eats well.
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby 2dimes on Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:01 am

Have you seen Honeymoon Suite this year?
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:20 am

Going to see Glass Tiger on December 10th at Massey Hall.

Going to see Foreigner on July 25th at Darien Lake.
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby 2dimes on Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:15 am

I have pretty much ceased to go to live shows. Between ticket prices starting at $60+ and avoiding crowds...

Last time I watched Honeymoon Suite it was Derry and Johnie Dee with three guys that I couldn't watch ruin their sound.

I would love to go to a show but I'm concerned it wouldn't be the one I went to when they came with Haywire and a third band I forget right now.

Addition : Looked at the website. I suspect I went to see them supporting Lemon Tongue with the line up for that. Nae my cup of lemon tea I guess.
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Re: At least we can all agree on…

Postby KoolBak on Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:43 pm

DoD....cool.

I've found a great local venue. Saw the Black Jacket Symphony do Zeppelin 4 and now have tickets for Feb to see them do Rumors. Love these guys and tix are $35!! The bar at this joint pours doubles as standard fare too.....awesome.

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