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does Trump deserve to go to prison after Biden takes office?

Poll ended at Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:52 pm

yes
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27%
no
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45%
maybe
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18%
i don't know
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No votes
i don't care
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Total votes : 11

Re: is Trump going to prison???

Postby mookiemcgee on Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:50 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
jimboston wrote:You ignore logic... I offer logic


:lol: :lol: :lol: =D> =D> =D>

Logic and Gym don't belong in the same sentence. Just a parade of ridiculous radical left tropes, memes and lies.

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Left-wing Politifact's and BBC's list of Trump's promises kept ... a lot more in the works but requires a second term to complete. And this doesn't include objectively factual promises achieved that the rabid leftists who feed Gym his talking points simply choose not to ignore or rate such as Right to Try legislation.

ECONOMY

- Create 10% repatriation tax to encourage business to relocate to U.S. - DONE
- Renegotiate NAFTA - DONE
- Pull the U.S. out of the Trans Pacific Partnership - DONE
- Lower marriage penalty on income taxes - DONE

IMMIGRATION

- Deport immigrants with criminal records - DONE
- Decrease refugee admissions - DONE (lowered from 90K annually to 30K annually)
- Suspend immigration from terror-prone countries - DONE
- Enact regulations to prioritize hiring Americans over immigrants - DONE
- Repeal DACA Executive Order - DONE **

ENERGY

- Achieve U.S. energy independence - DONE *

DEFENSE

- Order 100% American withdrawal from Afghanistan - DONE
- Defeat ISIS - DONE ***
- Accelerate shipbuilding towards goal of 350-ship fleet - DONE

GOVERNMENT

- Place lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying for foreign governments - DONE
- Nominate originalists to the Supreme Court - DONE
- Donate 100% of president's salary to charity - DONE

* "The U.S. hasn't achieved the "complete American energy independence" but the country is moving toward it."
** Stalled in courts due to Rat lawsuits
*** ISIS lost 97% of its territory within two years of Trump's election and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed by American SF on Trump's order


Using your own source Politifact (I'm sure you would have preferred to use a 'conservative' fact check site, but since apparently conservatives gave up on facts when Trump was elected no such reputable source exists):

Trump has 'kept' 25 of his 2016 campaign promises and FAILED at keeping 50 others....

Grow economy by 4%/year - was failing at this even before Corona virus, not just a complete pathetic failure.
Trump made the penny promise (to cut spending by 1%/year) - utterly failed, spending out of control even before corona virus while controlling all three branches of gov't.
Build a wall, have Mexico pay for it - Mexico hasn't paid for shit, a wall already existed and he expanded it slightly.
Triple the number of ICE officers - failed
Impose death penalty for cop killers - didn't even try on this one, failed.
Freeze federal employee numbers/commit to doing more in gov't with fewer employees - the federal workforce has not gotten smaller in Trump's presidency, and in some areas has gotten larger.
Eliminate the federal debt in 8 years - Way larger than ever before, more than doubled since previous administration
Allow individuals to deduct health care insurance premiums from taxes - failed
Enact term limits - failed
RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS - he said he's do it, still refuses.
and the list goes on and on and on....
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Re: is Trump going to prison???

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:55 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:Image


Of course, this fails to acknowledge that these were not four year promises, they were eight year promises. Reform doesn't happen overnight. You should have already been aware that when you copy/pasted ...

mookiemcgee wrote:Eliminate the federal debt in 8 years


... even Trump doesn't control space-time.

I'm impressed he's already fulfilled as many as he has! Trump is well on his way to delivering the rest of his promises by 2024, but only if Biden's anti-democratic attempted coup fails.

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Re: is Trump going to prison???

Postby jimboston on Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:01 pm

Saxi keep your head i the sand and keep drinking the KoolAid.
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Re: is Trump going to prison???

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:20 pm

jimboston wrote:Saxi keep your head i the sand and keep drinking the KoolAid.


When Gym doesn't have facts he starts alleging conspiracy theories.
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Re: is Trump going to prison???

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:02 pm

Some of Trumps "Accomplishments"

DBandit70 wrote: Almost 4 million jobs ...
(etc., etc.)
... lifted off food stamps since the election.

May as well group together the first 15 claims on the list, since basically they're all one claim spun into 15 lines. They can all be summed up as "bragging about the economic boom." Which isn't anything to brag about, and wouldn't be his if it were. The boom began in 2012. It had already been roaring for more than four years when Trump was elected, so if any president should get bragging rights for it, it should be Obama. But I would posit that nobody should be bragging about it, because it's mainly an artifice of deficit spending gone mad. The world has learned nothing from 1989 and 2008. One day the party will end, and there will be a lot of pain, but the people who caused it will escape responsibility. I used to think that Obama was spending money like a drunken sailor. If so, then Trump has been spending the entire crew of a destroyer that's out on its first shore leave in a year. In the first three years of Trump's reign, he oversaw an increase in Federal spending of more than a trillion dollars. Obama oversaw an increase of 900 billion over his eight years. Three years to do more fiscal damage than Obama had done in eight. That's some wild and crazy spending.

Not going to go through the whole list, but here's some other nuggets from the list of "Accomplishments":

Signed Right-To-Try legislation.

Yup, so more people can become victims of quackery. How's that hydroxychloroquine working out for you?

United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957

Just like bragging about the economic boom, this is just the continuation of a trend that was well on the way before Trump was elected.
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Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.

$700 billion per year to be wasted on killing people and blowing shit up. What colossal stupidity!

For $700 billion/year, you literally could feed all the world's hungry. Or educate all the world's illiterate. Or build high-speed rail lines between every American city and town. For $700 billion in just one year you could have twenty manned missions to Mars. For $700 billion/year over five years, you could have a fully-functional city on the moon. Literally thousands of things that you could do with the money that would actually improve people's lives instead of hurting them, but you think it's worth bragging about that you're going to piss the money away on buying bombs to blow up some unsuspecting third-world villages.

Or you could, you know, just give the money back to the taxpayers. Or reduce the deficit. There's a reason the authors of the U.S. constitution tried to prevent recurring spending on standing armies. They knew that a standing army is a cancer that enslaves any society that is tethered to it.

Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

There was nothing horrible or one-sided about the JCPOA. It was a perfectly fair deal where Iran was admitted to normal relations with other nations in return for ceasing work on a nuclear bomb. Since Trump killed the JCPOA, Iran naturally went back to working on a bomb and is now closer to it than ever before. You might remember that Trump didn't just say he was going to kill the deal, he said he was going to negotiate a better one. Which he never did. Didn't even try. That's the way with so much of what Trump has done. He claims he's going to tear up a "terrible" deal and make a better one, he goes ahead with the tearing up part but for some reason never gets around to the making a better one part. Sort of like a guy who says he's going to bulldoze your house and build you a much nicer one; goes ahead with the bulldozing but seems to conveniently forget all about the rebuilding part.

Which brings us to:
Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.

Whether you like it or not, we're not going to fix the climate without united participation from all the major countries of the world. It's all well and good to be isolationist on land, but that doesn't work with the air or the water. The air and the water circulates, and all the major countries have to work together on reducing the pollution of it. The air you're breathing today was in Shanghai two weeks ago, and it was in Canberra two weeks before that.

Paris certainly isn't the end-all to fix the climate. It's a band-aid on a hatchet wound, but it's at least a start. Like it or not, the U.S. is still the world's biggest carbon polluter, and without its participation the problems are not going to be fixed. And China is the second-biggest, and without Chinese participation the problems aren't going to be fixed either, and China won't be co-operative if the U.S. isn't. There isn't anything that any one country can do about fixing the climate. It requires everybody (everybody major; we can do it without Nauru) to be on board.

Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.

This one's just cute. :D They made a few minor changes to NAFTA and renamed it and now Trump wants to claim he's reinvented the wheel. It's NAFTA with a few changes and a new name. Other than the name, can you tell me one thing that's different between the new NAFTA and the old one? I didn't think so. I'll bet not one person in a thousand could correctly identify something that's been changed about it.

Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.

Yup, pissed off all your major allies and accomplished absolutely nothing. Can you explain how your nation is more secure by paying and extra penny for an aluminum can? Take your time, I'm not in a hurry.

Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.

Yup, keeping people in prison without a trial continues. Great achievement for the "bastion of democracy."

Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.

Yup, the rich can now opt out of health insurance, so that it's more expensive for those who can afford it least. Great "accomplishment".

Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.

Which is just code for sending refugees back to the dictatorships they were fleeing from so they can be tortured and killed. Contras who have been fighting for the CIA for 40 years and were always told they were welcome to retire in the U.S. when they were too old to fight, are being sent back to Nicaragua to be tortured to death. Magnificent "accomplishment" that one!
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Re: is Trump going to prison???

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:18 am

Someone's going to prison!!!

The Special Counsel's investigation into the attempted Democratic coup against President Trump - AKA RussiaHoax - is now picking up steam!

The first domino to fall is disgraced pro-Democrat FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith who conspired with other Democrats to unleash the RussiaHoax conspiracy theory on the United States, beguiling and bamboozling millions of innocent and dumb Democrats, in an effort to bring down Trump.

The government submitted its sentencing memorandum on Thursday in the case of disgraced former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith, who has admitted that he altered an email that was used in a FISA warrant application to surveil former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser Carter Page. U.S. Attorney John Durham, identified in the filing as Special Counsel, called for Clinesmith to be sentenced “at least between the middle and upper end of the applicable Guidelines range.”

Special Counsel Durham also said that Clinesmith should go to prison even though his wife is pregnant and due to give birth in March.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/sp ... pregnancy/


Better yet, last week AG Barr announced he secretly made Durham a Special Counsel right before the election, so he can't be removed even if Biden claws his way into the presidency. He will, therefore, be able to probe deep into Biden's personal and professional life for every day of his presidency, leaving Biden crippled and attacked from within the executive branch itself.

In a letter to Congress, Mr. Barr disclosed that he had secretly appointed Mr. Durham as a special counsel on Oct. 19, before the election. The action gives Mr. Durham the same independence and protections against being fired that had been enjoyed by Robert S. Mueller III, the former special counsel who eventually oversaw the Russia investigation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/us/p ... ation.html
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Re: is Trump going to prison???

Postby jimboston on Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:36 am

saxitoxin wrote:Someone's going to prison!!!

The Special Counsel's investigation into the attempted Democratic coup against President Trump - AKA RussiaHoax - is now picking up steam!

The first domino to fall is disgraced pro-Democrat FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith who conspired with other Democrats to unleash the RussiaHoax conspiracy theory on the United States, beguiling and bamboozling millions of innocent and dumb Democrats, in an effort to bring down Trump.

The government submitted its sentencing memorandum on Thursday in the case of disgraced former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith, who has admitted that he altered an email that was used in a FISA warrant application to surveil former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser Carter Page. U.S. Attorney John Durham, identified in the filing as Special Counsel, called for Clinesmith to be sentenced “at least between the middle and upper end of the applicable Guidelines range.”

Special Counsel Durham also said that Clinesmith should go to prison even though his wife is pregnant and due to give birth in March.



If this guy altered a document that he used in a warrant application then he should be punished per legal guidelines.

... and the status of his wife’s pregnancy is immaterial.
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Re: is Trump going to prison???

Postby rdsrds2120 on Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:32 pm

"Is Trump going to prison?"

Probably, even if only for his activity pre-Presidency that was dug up over the course of his Presidency.
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Re: is Trump going to prison???

Postby BoganGod on Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:44 pm

riskllama wrote:for being the sorest loser in the entire recorded history of mankind? what do you think?

Bitch please, yah got sum hide. I wupped yore arse so good youse fort ewe was back home havin ya mumma beating u for putting your finger in the cats arse again.
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