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Should black Americans have to live in fear of being lynched for no good reason?

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Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby mrswdk on Mon May 11, 2020 6:09 pm

As COVID-19 sweeps the mainstream media, fear grips the nation and both federal and state governments impose sweeping controls on the lives of all, Americans across the country have rallied together to demand freedom to go about their normal lives without fear.

For too long now, millions of Americans have had to live in fear simply because they are black and they live in a country where their racist persecution will go unchecked. Ahmaud Arbery is sadly the latest in a line of senseless lynchings of black Americans so long that no one even has any idea which number he is, but many are hoping he might be the last:

The US justice department is considering federal hate crimes charges over the death of unarmed black jogger Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia in February.

Gregory McMichael and his son Travis, who are white, are facing murder and assault charges over the shooting.

The case sparked national outrage when video of the death emerged last week.

Mr Arbery's supporters have been using the hashtag #IRunWithMaud, sharing photos and running 2.23 miles (3.6km) for the day he died, 23 February.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52623292
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby jimboston on Mon May 11, 2020 6:44 pm

It’s not a lynching... that has a specific meaning.

It is a murder and (though I hate the term) likely a hate crime.

They could’ve called police and just followed the guy or used guns to ask him to stop. They have no right to stop a person and shot him. Maybe if they saw a crime in action... but not “because he ‘looked’ like someone who maybe committed a burglary.”
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby saxitoxin on Mon May 11, 2020 9:26 pm

The US justice department is considering federal hate crimes charges over the death of unarmed black jogger Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia in February.


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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby mrswdk on Tue May 12, 2020 5:50 am

jimboston wrote:It’s not a lynching...


The mayor of Atlanta has called the death of Ahmaud Arbery, who was shot and killed by two white men in February, a “lynching”.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... anta-mayor
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby what,me worry? on Tue May 12, 2020 6:59 am

The first thing you gotta know is that you'll die someday

Sorry to ruin the ending and I missed the verbage in the Constitution and Bill of Rights indicating that we are prohibited from living in fear
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby jimboston on Tue May 12, 2020 7:02 am

mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:It’s not a lynching...


The mayor of Atlanta has called the death of Ahmaud Arbery, who was shot and killed by two white men in February, a “lynching”.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... anta-mayor


The mayor calling it a lynching... doesn’t make it a lynching.

The lawyer calling it a lynching... doesn’t make it a lynching.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching

I refuse to accept their attempts to redefine the word. The word has a meaning and I am sticking to that meaning.
It used to refer specifically to hanging... now it’s just premeditated. This doesn’t seem premeditated in the true sense.

It’s still horrible, wrong, and a hate crime... just not a lynching.

Also, I realize you post this to paint America in a bad light... and this is definitely NOT good.
Race relations, discrimination, hate crimes, etc... it’s all bad.
That said.... it is technically illegal in the US.

In China it’s the government itself that persecutes and murders ethnic, political, and religious minorities... not two random losers.
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby mrswdk on Tue May 12, 2020 7:40 am

jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:It’s not a lynching...


The mayor of Atlanta has called the death of Ahmaud Arbery, who was shot and killed by two white men in February, a “lynching”.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... anta-mayor


The mayor calling it a lynching... doesn’t make it a lynching.

The lawyer calling it a lynching... doesn’t make it a lynching.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching


Yeah who needs a lawyer's professional opinion when you have Wikipedia and a keyboard, right?
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby jimboston on Tue May 12, 2020 7:53 am

mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:It’s not a lynching...


The mayor of Atlanta has called the death of Ahmaud Arbery, who was shot and killed by two white men in February, a “lynching”.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... anta-mayor


The mayor calling it a lynching... doesn’t make it a lynching.

The lawyer calling it a lynching... doesn’t make it a lynching.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching


Yeah who needs a lawyer's professional opinion when you have Wikipedia and a keyboard, right?


The lawyer was using hyperbole and taking liberty with the language in order to emphasize a point and elicit an emotional response.

Perhaps you believe everything every lawyer says... and you take that as gospel truth and at face value.
I don’t. I like to think for myself.

I can provide other links. to definitions that don’t match the circumstances...

https://www.dictionary.com/e/historical ... /lynching/
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lynch
https://www.britannica.com/topic/lynching
(Two people is hardly a ‘mob’.)

It’s funny that you choose to focus on me not calling it a ‘lynching’... an somehow this implies I’m ‘condoning’ the act?
It’s also funny you like to continuously point out flaws in the USA... but never once have you admitted any flaws in China.
It’s also interesting you ignore WMW’s dumb comments but attack me for having a problem with the misuse of the English language.
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby mrswdk on Tue May 12, 2020 8:13 am

jimboston wrote:It’s funny that you choose to focus on me not calling it a ‘lynching’... an somehow this implies I’m ‘condoning’ the act?


It's funny that you often choose to accuse me of putting words in your mouth based on highly pedantic semantic points... and yet you make ridiculous reaches like this.
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby jimboston on Tue May 12, 2020 8:54 am

mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:It’s funny that you choose to focus on me not calling it a ‘lynching’... an somehow this implies I’m ‘condoning’ the act?


It's funny that you often choose to accuse me of putting words in your mouth based on highly pedantic semantic points... and yet you make ridiculous reaches like this.


If my points are pedantic... ignore them.

Words have meanings and their meanings are important.
If we don’t ‘agree’ on the meanings of words then we (as a people) are unable to communicate effectively.

It bothers me when people intentionally misuse and abuse the language... generally this is done for biased propaganda purposes, and often to mislead people by attempting to hit emotional nerves. I don’t like it. (Unless it’s me doing it.)

Seriously though... this is a horrible crime... but it’s NOT a lynching.

Abuse of language bothers me at all levels. A local example...

There’s a plan to put solar panels in a cranberry bog down the street from me. There are people opposed to this plan because they will see the panels from their house and they don’t like it and think it’ll lower the value of their homes. In general I support the plan, because renewable solar energy is good and because the law enabling the panels requires the owners of the bog to maintain the rest of the bog as a working bog. That said, because they’re my neighbors and i understand their view, I was inclined to support their position. Until I saw the name of their group. Their calling themselves the “Residents for Responsible Solar Energy”. The whole purpose of the group is to stop the installation of the solar field! They are not “for” anything! If they kill the plan to install the field, the group goes away. They are not proposing other options, better or more ‘responsible’ options, they are not funding research to make solar installations more ‘responsible’... they aren’t even just working to make this project more ‘responsible’. They simply want to kill the project. The leader asked me if they could put a lawn sign on my property which abuts a cut-through road... I asked about the name and she tried to defend the name... I told her “No”. If they named the group “Residents for Saving the Bog” or “Residents to Stop the Ugly Solar Farm” I would support them with a lawn sign and my vote.... but because they came up with some dumb misleading name I’m opposed.

The name “sounds” better... but it’s misusing the language and I don’t like it.
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby mrswdk on Tue May 12, 2020 9:52 am

Which way did you vote in the poll, out of interest? It seems to be 50:50 at the moment.
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby 2dimes on Tue May 12, 2020 9:53 am

It's funny that a word meant something specific for hundreds of years and then suddenly...

Nuh uh, it can mean whatever we want it to, 'cause we're smarter than you old bastards.
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby KoolBak on Tue May 12, 2020 10:46 am

While it's horrific, it's, once again, ridiculous to judge 300 million people on one stupid act.

There's huge Amish communities. Why not pick an article and judge us all on that?

Or Russian? Or Vietnamese? Or Chilean? Have all those cool communities near me...all very different, all awesome and super unique, all Americans.

Discuss and judge the POS that committed the crime, not me and my family.
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby mrswdk on Tue May 12, 2020 11:07 am

It's interesting how you have opened a thread written solely in support of black Americans who live in fear that violence will be committed against them and go punished, and you have taken that message to be some sort of personal attack on you.

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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby jimboston on Tue May 12, 2020 3:35 pm

mrswdk wrote:Which way did you vote in the poll, out of interest? It seems to be 50:50 at the moment.


I checked No.

Aren’t my comments clear.
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby mrswdk on Tue May 12, 2020 3:57 pm

Well it's always hard to tell with you. Thanks for clarifying!
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby 2dimes on Tue May 12, 2020 4:15 pm

Jim is probably very difficult to understand if you don't know how words work. "We went down town to rape some beers and lynch a tray of appies."
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby Dukasaur on Tue May 12, 2020 5:01 pm

2dimes wrote:Jim is probably very difficult to understand if you don't know how words work. "We went down town to rape some beers and lynch a tray of appies."

Did you notice that it fits the metre of 'Jack and Jill'
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Re: Americas demand right to life free of fear

Postby 2dimes on Tue May 12, 2020 5:40 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
2dimes wrote:Jim is probably very difficult to understand if you don't know how words work. "We went down town to rape some beers and lynch a tray of appies."

Did you notice that it fits the metre of 'Jack and Jill'


No but... "Jones and Red headed for bed after wiping their mouths with some nappies."
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