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Re: Destruction of Saudi Oil Leaves USA in Charge

Postby GoranZ on Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:17 pm

US makes the world’s ‘finest’ anti-air systems, but sometimes they just don’t work, Pompeo explains

How Saudi Arabia failed to protect itself from drone and missile attacks

Saudi Arabia’s current air defenses are ‘irrelevant’

Saudi Arabia boasts an arsenal of sophisticated and expensive air defense equipment. They have the American-made Patriot missile defense system, German-made Skyguard air defense cannons and France’s Shahine mobile anti-aircraft system, and they’ll soon have Lockheed Martin’s highly advanced THAAD (terminal high altitude area defense) interceptors.

But these are basically inconsequential, says Jack Watling, a land warfare expert at the Royal United Services Institute who advises Gulf militaries.

“The Patriots are kind of irrelevant,” Watling told CNBC in a phone interview. “The track record of Patriot engaging missiles of any kind is pretty awful, they very rarely hit the target.” The other issue, he says, is that it’s designed for shooting down high-altitude ballistic missiles, not the cruise missiles and drones used in Saturday’s attack.

“These were low-flying cruise missiles. They were coming in far below the engagement zone for Patriot. So you wouldn’t have tried to hit them with Patriot.” In its primary role of shooting down aircraft, Watling noted, the system does perform “very well.”

Aerial photographs found on open-source platforms show three Skyguard batteries placed around the targeted Abqaiq oil facility, which are slow-firing large caliber anti-aircraft guns, as well as French-made Shahine batteries from the 1980s.

Despite being meant to protect these facilities, they Skyguards were not of much use either, Watling says: “The batteries around the site are firstly not the appropriate systems to engage cruise missiles, and there is no evidence that the Saudis have trained using their equipment.”

‘The Saudis… are largely inattentive’

To add to the Saudis’ weapon woes, their military personnel may not be up to the task either, according to Watling and several other experts who spoke to CNBC anonymously.

“The Saudis have a lot of sophisticated air defense equipment. Given their general conduct of operations in Yemen, it is highly unlikely that their soldiers know how to use it,” Watling said. He added that the kingdom’s forces have “low readiness, low competence, and are largely inattentive.”

“So if you’re a battery commander protecting against an oilfield which you never believed was going to come under attack, how carefully are you watching your radar? I’d be surprised if they’d even turned their radar on.”

Even those that do have the technical knowledge, Watling added, “are unlikely to be attentive enough to pick up small unmanned aerial vehicles or low flying missiles on their radar... quickly enough to coordinate countermeasures.”

The Saudi Defense Ministry did not respond to a CNBC request for comment.


These stupid idiots started a war and now they learned how it looks like!

Money can't buy brain :lol:
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Re: Destruction of Saudi Oil Leaves USA in Charge

Postby armati on Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:45 pm

Politics
Putin Offers to Sell Saudis S-400 Missiles to Bolster Defenses
By Henry Meyer
September 16, 2019, 12:53 PM MDT

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... with-s-400

So funny, Putin offered the s 400 to the U.S. too.

Kinda, u make crap comment.

When u consider the f 35, Zumwalt-class destroyers and carriers that dont work either ya gotta wonder.


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Re: Destruction of Saudi Oil Leaves USA in Charge

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:58 pm

GoranZ wrote:“The Saudis have a lot of sophisticated air defense equipment. Given their general conduct of operations in Yemen, it is highly unlikely that their soldiers know how to use it,”

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Re: Destruction of Saudi Oil Leaves USA in Charge

Postby GoranZ on Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:39 pm

What a bunch of idiots... :lol:

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Re: Destruction of Saudi Oil Leaves USA in Charge

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:01 pm

GoranZ wrote:What a bunch of idiots... :lol:



LOL! =D>

IDK why it is but all Arab military bands sound like absolute crap. I think it's because there's no music education beginning in elementary school like in Europe and North America, and informal instruction is in non-western instruments, so a lot of their bandsmen are just regular recruits to whom they give a clarinet or trombone.
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Re: Destruction of Saudi Oil Leaves USA in Charge

Postby riskllama on Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:08 pm

those guys should be shot - that was brutal... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Destruction of Saudi Oil Leaves USA in Charge

Postby GoranZ on Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:36 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
GoranZ wrote:What a bunch of idiots... :lol:



LOL! =D>

IDK why it is but all Arab military bands sound like absolute crap. I think it's because there's no music education beginning in elementary school like in Europe and North America, and informal instruction is in non-western instruments, so a lot of their bandsmen are just regular recruits to whom they give a clarinet or trombone.

Saudi Anthem uses same or similar instruments. So are they choosing the worst from the worst when western/european president arrives?

riskllama wrote:those guys should be shot - that was brutal... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Putin was probably thinking the same
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Re: Destruction of Saudi Oil Leaves USA in Charge

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:12 pm

It's all Arab military bands ...



Also the Filipinos ... when the United States ran the Philippines, the Band of the Philippine Scouts and the Band of the Philippine Constabulary were supposedly among the greatest military bands in the world ... Sousa said the Constabulary Band was the equal to the U.S. Marine Band. Now they're shit, apparently.



Compare those to the magnificent Stabsmusikkorps der Bundeswehr -

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