Batman v Superman, it sucked (spoilers)

by **jonesthecurl** on Fri May 24, 2019 5:17 pm

Good point.
I don't think I've ever read any "Knight and Squire", was just aware they exist.

by **Symmetry** on Fri May 24, 2019 5:27 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Good point.
I don't think I've ever read any "Knight and Squire", was just aware they exist.

I just know them from the Batman Inc. storyline. Basically, Batman tries to make Batman a franchise. So there's Zorro Batman in Mexico. Ninja Batman in Japan. Knight and Squire Batman in the UK. Pick your stereotype.

It was not good. Pretty sure the next writer just killed them off too. It was embarrassing.

by **jonesthecurl** on Fri May 24, 2019 5:31 pm

"American" superheroes who don't come from America include Wonder Woman, Aquaman, most of the Legion of Superheroes, Wolverine, The Martian Manhunter, Hawkman and Hawkgirl (in some incarnations), Silver Surfer, Thor, most of the Green LanternCorps, all the Superman family, Invincible, various incarnations of Captain Marvel, the Inhumans, the original White Tiger, Blak Widow, that X-man who turns into steel, Black Panther, Big barda, the other "New Gods", um, probably some more.

by **jonesthecurl** on Fri May 24, 2019 5:32 pm

Symmetry wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Good point.
I don't think I've ever read any "Knight and Squire", was just aware they exist.

I just know them from the Batman Inc. storyline. Basically, Batman tries to make Batman a franchise. So there's Zorro Batman in Mexico. Ninja Batman in Japan. Knight and Squire Batman in the UK. Pick your stereotype.

It was not good. Pretty sure the next writer just killed them off too. It was embarrassing.

I think they've been around longer than that though. Not exactly the most noticeable of the comic characters.

by **Symmetry** on Fri May 24, 2019 5:37 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Good point.
I don't think I've ever read any "Knight and Squire", was just aware they exist.

I just know them from the Batman Inc. storyline. Basically, Batman tries to make Batman a franchise. So there's Zorro Batman in Mexico. Ninja Batman in Japan. Knight and Squire Batman in the UK. Pick your stereotype.

It was not good. Pretty sure the next writer just killed them off too. It was embarrassing.

I think they've been around longer than that though. Not exactly the most noticeable of the comic characters.

Aye, I looked them up after your post. I think the idiot idea was kinda a well intentioned attempt to bring back some of the sillier parts of Batman history back into the fold. Grant Morrison (another Brit) is usually good at doing that.

by **jimboston** on Fri May 24, 2019 9:17 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:"American" superheroes who don't come from America include Wonder Woman, Aquaman, most of the Legion of Superheroes, Wolverine, The Martian Manhunter, Hawkman and Hawkgirl (in some incarnations), Silver Surfer, Thor, most of the Green LanternCorps, all the Superman family, Invincible, various incarnations of Captain Marvel, the Inhumans, the original White Tiger, Blak Widow, that X-man who turns into steel, Black Panther, Big barda, the other "New Gods", um, probably some more.

What about Alpha Flight?

You’re the guy who likes to talk about Puck!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_(Marvel_Comics)#/media/File%3AAlphaflight5.jpg

by **Symmetry** on Fri May 24, 2019 9:33 pm

jimboston wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:"American" superheroes who don't come from America include Wonder Woman, Aquaman, most of the Legion of Superheroes, Wolverine, The Martian Manhunter, Hawkman and Hawkgirl (in some incarnations), Silver Surfer, Thor, most of the Green LanternCorps, all the Superman family, Invincible, various incarnations of Captain Marvel, the Inhumans, the original White Tiger, Blak Widow, that X-man who turns into steel, Black Panther, Big barda, the other "New Gods", um, probably some more.

What about Alpha Flight?

You’re the guy who likes to talk about Puck!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_(Marvel_Comics)#/media/File%3AAlphaflight5.jpg

Nobody cares about Alpha Flight. "What about Alpha Flight?" is basically their version of "Avengers Assemble!".

The Doom Patrol get more attention than Alpha Flight.

by **jonesthecurl** on Sat May 25, 2019 1:53 am

jimboston wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:"American" superheroes who don't come from America include Wonder Woman, Aquaman, most of the Legion of Superheroes, Wolverine, The Martian Manhunter, Hawkman and Hawkgirl (in some incarnations), Silver Surfer, Thor, most of the Green LanternCorps, all the Superman family, Invincible, various incarnations of Captain Marvel, the Inhumans, the original White Tiger, Blak Widow, that X-man who turns into steel, Black Panther, Big barda, the other "New Gods", um, probably some more.

What about Alpha Flight?

You’re the guy who likes to talk about Puck!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_(Marvel_Comics)#/media/File%3AAlphaflight5.jpg

Good point.
There was also a Flash story arc with a bunch of heroes from South America.
ANd I have a vague memory of seeing the cover of an issue of the appalling "Teen Titans GO!" comic with two speedsters called Mas & Minus (?)

by **jimboston** on Sat May 25, 2019 7:07 am

It’s kinda obvious that American comics are going to be mostly American characters.

This is true for Hollywood movies too.

Even Star Trek, which has touted ‘diversity’ for decades still put an American in the Captain’s chair.

Yes... and i’m talking about TOS and Captain James Tiberius Kirk.
They went off brand for Next Generation... but the other 3 Capetians from Broadcast TV are Americans too... even the MILF, Captain Janeway.

by **Dukasaur** on Sat May 25, 2019 9:18 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:"American" superheroes who don't come from America include Wonder Woman, Aquaman, most of the Legion of Superheroes, Wolverine, The Martian Manhunter, Hawkman and Hawkgirl (in some incarnations), Silver Surfer, Thor, most of the Green LanternCorps, all the Superman family, Invincible, various incarnations of Captain Marvel, the Inhumans, the original White Tiger, Blak Widow, that X-man who turns into steel, Black Panther, Big barda, the other "New Gods", um, probably some more.

Superman may have come from another planet, but there's no doubt he did it to seek American citizenship.

I watched the show enough to still have the intro memorized. The last line is "fights a never-ending battle for Truth, Justice, and the American Way."

Although, come to think of it, I don't think anyone ever filled out an I-140 for him, and definitely he lived under an assumed name which is probably punishable by status revocation, so I guess he can't be allowed to apply for citizenship unless there's an amnesty.

by **2dimes** on Sun May 26, 2019 9:24 am

Duke, Canada is not really another planet...

by **jimboston** on Sun May 26, 2019 6:42 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
I watched the show enough to still have the intro memorized. The last line is "fights a never-ending battle for Truth, Justice, and the American Way."

You’re right Duk.

You know who else fights for Truth, Justice, and the American Way?

Boston sports teams!

by **jonesthecurl** on Sun May 26, 2019 7:14 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
There was also a Flash story arc with a bunch of heroes from South America.

I'm just sorting my comics (and books) with a view to dumping at least 50% to make the next house move easier, and I came accross this one. It's from a Flash annual in 2000, where he meets the "Greatest Heroes of Argentina!"
They are Salamanca, (some srt of sorceress), Cachiru (a bit of a Hawkman vibe), and several who do nothing in the story - one in a Jaguar costume, one with a horse's head, one with a wolf's head, one looks a bit like an owl and could be the local Batman, and two whose costumes give very little away.

by **betiko** on Mon May 27, 2019 2:40 am

Symmetry wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Good point.
I don't think I've ever read any "Knight and Squire", was just aware they exist.

I just know them from the Batman Inc. storyline. Basically, Batman tries to make Batman a franchise. So there's Zorro Batman in Mexico. Ninja Batman in Japan. Knight and Squire Batman in the UK. Pick your stereotype.

It was not good. Pretty sure the next writer just killed them off too. It was embarrassing.

The funniest part of the batman inc.; is when they think they own exclusive rights on bats. Last year, Valencia CF updated their club logo for their 100 years of existence and DC sued them for using a bat on top of their logo.... humm... there’s been a bat there for a century... Batman is 80 years old... just all so american... facepalm