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Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby tzor on Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:09 pm

"Choose Something Like a Star" from "Frostiana" by Randall Thompson


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Something to think about when looking at the occasional thread in the forum.
Choose something like a star; to stay your mind on and be staid.
Is that even a word?
Apparently it is.
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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby Symmetry on Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:33 pm

tzor wrote:"Choose Something Like a Star" from "Frostiana" by Randall Thompson


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Something to think about when looking at the occasional thread in the forum.
Choose something like a star; to stay your mind on and be staid.
Is that even a word?
Apparently it is.


I'm not sure staying your mind is really a philosophy. Maybe an anti-philosophy?
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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby tzor on Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:55 am

Symmetry wrote:I'm not sure staying your mind is really a philosophy. Maybe an anti-philosophy?


Robert Frost: Poems Summary and Analysis of "Choose Something Like a Star" (1943)

In the last line of the poem, Frost uses the wordplay of the terms “to stay” and “to be staid” to reiterate the narrator’s explanation in the poem. By selecting a distant object to idolize, no matter what it is, an individual has the capacity to become “stayed” (comforted; rooted), even as such devotion threatens to make humanity “staid” (old-fashioned; static)


This is reflected in the music where the last note seems to linger statically.

An Analysis of Frost’s “Choose Something Like a Star” and Keats’ “Bright Star”

Upon a close reading, comparing and contrasting Robert Frost’s “Choose Something Like a Star” and John Keats’ “Bright Star,” has displayed the obvious similarities and differences of the two, but also the subtle implications of deeper similarities based on the lives of the two poets. Both, for their different reasons, based their poems on the steadfastness of a star. There is intimacy present in “Bright Star” versus the public concern in “Choose Something Like a Star.” There is envy of the star in Keats’ poem, where Frost appreciates what “little aid” it does offer us. “Bright Star” is based on the romantic properties of the star, where “Choose Something Like a Star” is primarily, at least initially, concerned with the scientific aspects of it.


At the conclusion of the poem, Frost realizes that although his original goal has not been met, there is something to be learned from this star. He makes a reference to Keats’ “Bright Star,” saying “And steadfast as Keats’ Eremite,” again, alluding to the solitude and permanence of the star. There is something significant in the steadfastness of a star, he hopes that the world can learn something from its nature and its power to serve as an anchor of permanence and placidity in today’s turbulent world.
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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby Symmetry on Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:16 pm

tzor wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I'm not sure staying your mind is really a philosophy. Maybe an anti-philosophy?


Robert Frost: Poems Summary and Analysis of "Choose Something Like a Star" (1943)

In the last line of the poem, Frost uses the wordplay of the terms “to stay” and “to be staid” to reiterate the narrator’s explanation in the poem. By selecting a distant object to idolize, no matter what it is, an individual has the capacity to become “stayed” (comforted; rooted), even as such devotion threatens to make humanity “staid” (old-fashioned; static)


This is reflected in the music where the last note seems to linger statically.

An Analysis of Frost’s “Choose Something Like a Star” and Keats’ “Bright Star”

Upon a close reading, comparing and contrasting Robert Frost’s “Choose Something Like a Star” and John Keats’ “Bright Star,” has displayed the obvious similarities and differences of the two, but also the subtle implications of deeper similarities based on the lives of the two poets. Both, for their different reasons, based their poems on the steadfastness of a star. There is intimacy present in “Bright Star” versus the public concern in “Choose Something Like a Star.” There is envy of the star in Keats’ poem, where Frost appreciates what “little aid” it does offer us. “Bright Star” is based on the romantic properties of the star, where “Choose Something Like a Star” is primarily, at least initially, concerned with the scientific aspects of it.


At the conclusion of the poem, Frost realizes that although his original goal has not been met, there is something to be learned from this star. He makes a reference to Keats’ “Bright Star,” saying “And steadfast as Keats’ Eremite,” again, alluding to the solitude and permanence of the star. There is something significant in the steadfastness of a star, he hopes that the world can learn something from its nature and its power to serve as an anchor of permanence and placidity in today’s turbulent world.


Good call, I love Frost and Keats, though I know more about Keats and his "negative capability". I kind of see Keats as more interested in the tension between two irreconcilable opposites though. I don't know how much you know about the philosophy of the "sublime", but it might be something you'd be interested in.
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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby warmonger1981 on Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:51 am

What about the "Transit of Venus March" by Sousa? Written to honor Joseph Henry. Maybe someone will get the correlation. Let's see if any gets it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBdf4eiA7EY
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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby Symmetry on Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:06 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:What about the "Transit of Venus March" by Sousa? Written to honor Joseph Henry. Maybe someone will get the correlation. Let's see if any gets it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBdf4eiA7EY


All I know about Sousa is marching band stuff.
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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby warmonger1981 on Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:47 pm

Hint its more about the esoteric meaning of Venus and what made Henry famous. Also the coincidence of astrological alignments and funerals.
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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby Symmetry on Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:10 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:Hint its more about the esoteric meaning of Venus and what made Henry famous. Also the coincidence of astrological alignments and funerals.


Dude, if you want me to read the Da Vinci Code, just say so.

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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby tzor on Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:04 pm

More pointless musical philosophy ...



I love coffee, I love tea
I love the java jive and it loves me
Coffee and tea and the java and me
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, a cup (boy!)

I love java, sweet and hot
Whoops mrs. olson, I'm a coffee pot
Shoot the pot and I'll pour me a shot
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, a cup

Oh slip me a slug from the wonderful mug
And I'll cut a rug just snug in a jug
A sliced up onion and a raw one
Draw one -
Waiter, waiter, percolator

I love coffee, I love tea
I love the java jive and it loves me
Coffee and tea and the java and me
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, a cup

Boston bean (soy beans)
Green bean (cabbage and greens)
I'm not keen about a bean
Unless it is a chili chili bean (boy!)

I love java sweet and hot
Whoops mrs. olsen I'm a coffee pot (yeah)
Shoot me the pot and I'll pour me a shot
A cup, a cup, a cup (yeah)

Slip me a slug of the wonderful mug
'an I'll cut a rug just as snug in a jug
Drop a nickel in the pot joe
Takin' it slow
Waiter, waiter, percolator

I love coffee, I love tea
I love the java jive and it loves me
Coffee and tea and the java and me
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, boy!
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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:13 am

tzor wrote:More pointless musical philosophy ...



I love coffee, I love tea
I love the java jive and it loves me
Coffee and tea and the java and me
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, a cup (boy!)

I love java, sweet and hot
Whoops mrs. olson, I'm a coffee pot
Shoot the pot and I'll pour me a shot
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, a cup

Oh slip me a slug from the wonderful mug
And I'll cut a rug just snug in a jug
A sliced up onion and a raw one
Draw one -
Waiter, waiter, percolator

I love coffee, I love tea
I love the java jive and it loves me
Coffee and tea and the java and me
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, a cup

Boston bean (soy beans)
Green bean (cabbage and greens)
I'm not keen about a bean
Unless it is a chili chili bean (boy!)

I love java sweet and hot
Whoops mrs. olsen I'm a coffee pot (yeah)
Shoot me the pot and I'll pour me a shot
A cup, a cup, a cup (yeah)

Slip me a slug of the wonderful mug
'an I'll cut a rug just as snug in a jug
Drop a nickel in the pot joe
Takin' it slow
Waiter, waiter, percolator

I love coffee, I love tea
I love the java jive and it loves me
Coffee and tea and the java and me
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, boy!

- 1 -
Les cafés-crèmes dans les bars de Paris
On les connaît, on les aime
Chaque Parisien un beau jour en a pris
Et reprend toujours les mêmes
Mais quand viennent les vacances
Il suffit de s'en aller
Dans la montagne où l'agence
Nous dit qu'on fabrique du bon lait
On arrive, que c'est beau !
Voilà les vaches, les veaux et les oiseaux
Les hôtels, les jardins, les prairies, les sapins
Et chaque matin...

Refrain
On prend l'café au lait au lit
Avec des gâteaux et des croissants chauds
On prend l'café au lait au lit
Ah! c'que ça peut être bon, nom de nom !
Par la fenêtre on entend
Les cloches des vaches dans les champs
Oli olé, vive la café au lait !
Dans la montagne on entend
Les montagnards tout contents
Yodler li oli olé ! Yahou !

- 2 -
Les petites femmes qui s'promènent dans Paris
On les connaît, on les aime
Il suffit d'en voir une seule qui sourit
Pour aimer toujours les mêmes
Mais le hasard des vacances
Un jour peut nous faire cadeau
D'une belle fille dont l'innocence
Vient partager notre dodo
Nous voilà bien au chaud
Qu'il est bon, qu'il est beau notre nid d'oiseau !
On embête les voisins le soir quand tout s'éteint
Et chaque matin...

Après le 2e refrain:
Et quand on rentre à Paris
On est encore un peu gris
D'avoir trop pris de café - où ça ? - au lit !
Yahou ! Yahou !
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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby garrymilner on Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:38 am

I prefer another composition by R. Thompson. It`s really inspiring and encourage to think out of the box.
Check "Alleluia": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAhPD9zAImI
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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby Serbia on Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:20 am

What is the point of this thread?
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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby betiko on Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:08 am

Serbia wrote:What is the point of this thread?


this was pointless
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Re: Tzor's Pointless Musical Philosophy Topic

Postby Symmetry on Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:26 am

Art for art's sake
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