Tree volume calculation

[riskllama]

also, poplar smells like shit when you burn it. sorry Qwert..,

[patches70]

I can tell you exactly how much wood you'll get. What I'd need is the diameter of the tree at chest height. You said the tree is 100cm at the base. Assuming the tapering is consistent then at chest height the diameter is going to be about 90cm. You'll get just under this much wood-



That's two full cords. I doubt you'll get that much more from the tree though but that's a nice sized diameter. Forget about all that other stupid shit of calculating, woodcutters have already done the calculations for you. Just go out to your tree, measure up from the ground exactly 1.3 meters and take a diameter measurement of the tree at that point and come back in this thread and tell us the measurement. From that we can get a more exact figure for how many cords of wood you can expect to get and how many cubic meters that is. One cord of wood is equal to about 3.5 cubic meters.
From the information you've given in this thread that I see, you'll get at least a full cord of wood (one cord = 3.5 cubic m). If that tree is truly 100cm at the base, you'll likely get a bit more than a full cord. What I do know is that you won't get two full cords of wood. So you'll be getting between 3.5 to >7 cubic meters. Get that measurement of diameter at 1.3m and you can get a more exact measurement of total volume.

[nietzsche]

that's fucking unfair patches. all the trouble me and Dukasaur went into.


i'm seriously thinking on flying to Serbia to measure that poplar myself and show you wrong.

delete your post if you have any respect for us.

[patches70]

Sorry man, if ya wanna do a bunch of calculations that's fine and dandy. It seems to me the OP wants to know how much wood he's gonna have when he chops down that tree. He either wants to sell it or use it and either way he seems to be trying to figure out how much space it's going to take up so he can store it. Seems to me that getting that information is probably more important than stroking math egos.

Professional woodcutters have long ago figured out exactly how much product they are going to get out of a tree with a very high degree of accuracy. Their livelihoods depend on it after all. We can use those same tables for the purposes of the OP.

There ain't no need to go reinventing the wheel here, fellows.

[2dimes]

Sorry man, if ya wanna do a bunch of calculations that's fine and dandy. It seems to me the OP wants to know how much wood he's gonna have when he chops down that tree. He either wants to sell it or use it and either way he seems to be trying to figure out how much space it's going to take up so he can hire the appropriate sized jackwagon to transport it. Seems to me that getting that information is probably more important than stroking math egos.

Professional woodcutters have long ago figured out exactly how much product they are going to get out of a tree with a very high degree of accuracy. Their livelihoods depend on it after all. We can use those same tables for the purposes of the OP.

There ain't no need to go reinventing the wheel here, fellows.

Fixed.

[patches70]

he seems to be trying to figure out how much space it's going to take up so he can hire the appropriate sized jackwagon to transport it.

Fixed.

Har! Indeed, fixed it is.

[2dimes]

Nietzsche is just out of touch with lumber and the real world. Just interested in his fancy maths and stuff.

[Dukasaur]

Qwert is an ungrateful cow. I explained it all to him in detail, he's still not happy. No wonder Jugoslavia disintegrated.

[Bentelbow]

Is Jugo Juice still part of Jugoslavia?

[Qwert]

its bettwene 60-70 cm diameter on 1.3 meter.
I will try to put picture of tree.

[2dimes]

You could have cut it up by now. You're just stalling with this as an excuse.

"SHUT UP MOM! I CAN'T CUT IT DOWN YET. MY INTERNET FRIENDS ARE CALCULATING HOW MUCH WOOD WE'LL HAVE."

[patches70]

its bettwene 60-70 cm diameter on 1.3 meter.
I will try to put picture of tree.

No need for a picture if you don't want to. 60cm is just over 23 inch diameter. So you got a tree about 23" to 27" diameter. A 60 cm tree will get you one cord of wood, 3.5 cubic meters. A 70 cm tree will get you about another .08 cord of wood above the 60cm. You are looking at under 4 cubic meters of wood. About 3.6 - 3.9 cubic meters of wood total.

Best of luck with the tree good sir.

[Qwert]

You could have cut it up by now. You're just stalling with this as an excuse.

"SHUT UP MOM! I CAN'T CUT IT DOWN YET. MY INTERNET FRIENDS ARE CALCULATING HOW MUCH WOOD WE'LL HAVE."

hey its not easy to cut tree when you have buildings close! I dont want to be in youtube video " tree fails and idiots with chainsaw-special edition never seen before"

its need to be preparation for this operation.

[Qwert]

here picture, i going back and back to try to picture entire tree,but stuck to another tree behind, and shot what i can.
Its height its very close to 20 meter(my free calculation). Day after tomorrow probably will be cutting D-Day.

[patches70]

Nice tree. That's a poplar alright. You'll have to cure it for a season before you can burn it. And yeah, you can use poplar in your stove or fireplace. It just burns quick is all. It'll burn quick and hot. Looks like a white poplar.

What are you gonna do with it after you process it? Are you planning on using it as firewood or sell it? I hope you aren't going to just throw it all away! At the very least make a nice bonfire with it and have a little outdoor party over just throwing it away. You could mulch it I guess but it'll take a long time to decompose. I mean a realllll long time. Unless you take some steps to artificially increase the decomposition. Poplar chips are good to use on foot paths. Help keep the soil from gouging and washing away, stays in place for years and looks nice for demarcation of paths.

Just curious is all.

[Qwert]

probably firewood, still dont know what damage he have,but down in base water leaking and this its not good.
i will mix with elm and locust, and also have apple tree so its will be good for winter.
I dont know how much price of poplar its in your country, but here are quite joke, and not worth to sell( state forest sell poplar for 25 to 50 euro per m3).
Waiting 15 years to sell one tree for maximum 150 euro (if its quality) its not so big bussines.

[patches70]

probably firewood, still dont know what damage he have,but down in base water leaking and this its not good.
i will mix with elm and locust, and also have apple tree so its will be good for winter.
I dont know how much price of poplar its in your country, but here are quite joke, and not worth to sell( state forest sell poplar for 25 to 50 euro per m3).
Waiting 15 years to sell one tree for maximum 150 euro (if its quality) its not so big bussines.

yeah, you wouldn't get a lot of money for poplar as firewood, it burns real quick.

I don't understand this though-

still dont know what damage he have,but down in base water leaking and this its not good.

That looks to me you are saying water is getting in a basement(?) or something, and has to do with the poplar?
Poplars have very large and robust root systems. You don't wanna plant them close to structures or underground pipes and such. The roots will crush ceramic drainage pipes. They'll even bust through a foundation if given enough time.

[Qwert]

no i meant to say water leaking from poplar and in hes base from one side soil are soaked . Probably he have some disease.

[Symmetry]

I asked my local woodsman, Charles (as he is an expert on such volumes) about this recently. I simply enquired as to the maximum possible resulting wood that could be produced, if someone of his profession was able, and inclined to chuck wood, as his profession indicates.

He seemed baffled by my question- offended even. I'm not sure I phrased the question in the right way.

Hope your fifteenth degree is going well.

I think I'm still pretty acute. What's your angle?

[nietzsche]

recto

[Dukasaur]

recto

Damn near kildo.

[hotfire]

How do you not know what species of pine you have?? They are simple trees to ID, there is no excuse for being this lazy!

[Qwert]

How do you not know what species of pine you have?? They are simple trees to ID, there is no excuse for being this lazy!

dont know because its old and this its not hes normal area of living, because its pannonian plain, so he its planted like ornament tree.
I can take picture if you interesting to guess species.

[hotfire]

No need for a picture. If you are interested just pull a bundle of needles from the tree or find a dried bundle on the ground near it and count the number of needles per bundle. Also take a measurement of the length. That should narrow it down to a few options where bark description, cone description, height, and diameter estimates should ID it precisely. No need for the tougher ID requirements that deciduous trees might need with a much larger list to eliminate from.