Incompetence Trumps Terror

[cmbdiesel]

you are making ridiculous assumptions and trying to perceive bigotry where there is none. i volunteer in a refugee home where like 90% of the kids are from afghanistan and 2 of my 5 flatmates are super-religious muslims that claim to love mohammed more than their family. it was interest in their faith that led me to read the quran. a book i was given at the mosque i went to with my flatmate which was full of extremely friendly people who were delighted by my interest in their faith.

youve missed the point by a long shot twice now. i'll clarify for the last time, if you continue to not get it i consider our intellectual levels too different for a conversation to have any meaning.

im not judging musilms at all, im well aware most of them are good people (or at least no worse than the rest of humanity) and people should be judged based on their behaviour not beliefs. what im saying is if the quran were true, i dont see how anyone could claim terrorists are stupid. in my opinion they would be the only people behaving rationally. can you give me a reason for choosing to not do the most ethical thing possible that results in you and people of your choice receiving the biggest reward possible?

Just because someone gave you the book doesn't mean you read or understood it...
Personally, I call bullshit on the entire post.

[2dimes]

You could grab a copy and read it for yourself cmbdiesel. It's fairly available. Although I hear it is different from the bible, you can only get it's full true meaning in Arabic. Oh, wait the Roman Catholics used to tell everyone you needed to read the bible in Latin. ~shrug~

[Nymeria Stark]

i'm not judging a religion by anything any people do. you are the one doing that.

i'm judging a book by what is written in that book.

can you give me a good reason for not suicide-bombing assuming the quran is the perfect word of god? it is the ethical thing to do and will land you and your loved ones a top position in heaven. given that is what jihadists believe, how are they not perfectly reasonable to behave the way they do?

You should probably read the book before you assume what's written in it...
There's a lot of awful stuff in the bible as well.
Cherry-picking certain passages and utilizing it as justification for killing is the methodology of terrorists who are not men of religion (despite what they or others may believe). They are men seeking power, and have utilized Islam as a convenient vehicle to further their own desires.

Both are, at their core, religions of peace. People who believe otherwise are allowing the terrorists to co-opt religion for their own benefit.

i've read it, what gave you the impression i hadn't?
i've read the bible too; the old testament is almost as grotesque as the quran, what's your point?

you honestly think jihadists aren't religious? "despite what they or others may believe" - meaning they themselves think they've read the quran and believe in allah but don't really? you genuinely believe jihadists commit suicide for power and to "vehicle their own desires"? the euphoria people witness the jihadists experiencing shortly before their deaths is not because they know they are about to wake up in paradise?

You could grab a copy and read it for yourself cmbdiesel. It's fairly available. Although I hear it is different from the bible, you can only get it's full true meaning in Arabic. Oh, wait the Roman Catholics used to tell everyone you needed to read the bible in Latin. ~shrug~

if it's a peaceful book in arabic, whoever translated it into german couldn't have done a worse job and either doesn't speak arabic or pulled off one of the biggest troll stunts of all time.