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Re: Rogue One a Star Wars story.

Postby Chewie1 on Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:09 am

Symmetry wrote:I want to get this off my chest, without spoiling anything. The end of episode 7:

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Stupid Star Wars.



Keeping with Starwars the new Hope.... that bitch never gave me a medal when I helped destroy the first deathstar..... but i dont hold a grudge.
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Re: Rogue One a Star Wars story.

Postby 2dimes on Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:41 am

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But will Rey turn out to be a relative of the skywalkers.... to keep with the originality.


Well even though General Leia is a crappy mom, I don't see her being quite so bad that she would forget her daughter altogether. As a Jedi Luke is not supposed to be mating. (Then again, metaclorines or what ever)

That leaves few openings. Some sort of cousin perhaps.



Why is Luke not supposed to be mating?

He had a incest crush on Leia before he realised she was his sister???

Agreed tho she wont be leias daughter my money would be on Lukes.

His crush on Leia was also before he started Jedi training on Dagoba when he would have had to commit himself to the order to receive training from the already reluctant Yoda.

I know episode 2 and the forbidden love of Anakin was poorly acted but it still explained how Padme knew, Jedis were not allowed attachments that could lead them to the dark side. Of course they went ahead and got married, leading to Anakin losing himself in a lust for the power to keep his wife from dying.

Also aunt Leia would likely have recognized her.
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Re: Rogue One a Star Wars story.

Postby betiko on Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:03 pm

I kind of assumed that Rey was Luke's daughter from the first shot on her and that the game was to find out who her mother was. At some point I thought of that big silver armour general lady from the empire, but that would be silly.
Rey has to be luke's daughter, patches seems to be the biggest star wars nerd here: convince me she isn't luke's daughter. I admit that would be a way too easy plot, but for me that is a very minor plot of the new trilogy and it will be revealed pretty fast after her jedi training that the master is the father.
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Re: Rogue One a Star Wars story.

Postby riskllama on Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:26 pm

I heard there's gonna be a space rasslin' match in episode VIII - can't wait. do u know what space rasslin' is, Betty?
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Re: Rogue One a Star Wars story.

Postby patches70 on Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:21 pm

betiko wrote:I kind of assumed that Rey was Luke's daughter from the first shot on her and that the game was to find out who her mother was. At some point I thought of that big silver armour general lady from the empire, but that would be silly.
Rey has to be luke's daughter, patches seems to be the biggest star wars nerd here: convince me she isn't luke's daughter. I admit that would be a way too easy plot, but for me that is a very minor plot of the new trilogy and it will be revealed pretty fast after her jedi training that the master is the father.



I'm not the biggest Star Wars nerd. I have no idea who Rey's father or mother are. Could be anyone I suppose. Does force dependence depend on how much force ability the parents have?
I'm pretty sure every life form has some amount of force ability, even if it's very subtle. Rey's parents don't necessarily have to be some sort of powerful force users. They could have just been some average schmucks that simply abandoned their daughter or just died when she was really young.

As for her being Luke's daughter, it's possible of course, but the Jedi aren't supposed to have children, raise families and such. We saw what happens with Annakin when Jedi's disregard that "rule". Families make Jedi more vulnerable. So I dunno.

I think the more interesting plot points that might be explored for instance is Luke's journey to the dark side as it was kinda originally intended before Lucas decided he wanted to get rich off of merchandising rather than explore more complex character issues.
It is possible that by the end of this new trilogy Luke goes full dark side and Rey has to put him down. Now that might be some fun times and lead to some great WTF moments. Star Wars fanboys heads might assplode.
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Postby 2dimes on Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:35 pm

Again, after the mediclorine debacle, anything can happen. Maybe she's Luke's time traveling great grandmother.

Ok, even though Jedi are forbidden to have a family because attatchments can cause pain and lead them to the dark side, let's say betiko is right and she is Luke's daughter...

Why did she not know what his light saber was?
Who trained her in stick fighting but was unaware of the Force, or Jedis?
Who is the mother and what happened to her?
Why didn't she know R2-D2 and C-3PO?
She would have at least heard of Uncle Han and Chewbacca.

And finally I'll write it again, I believe aunt Leia would have known her niece or at least, sensed her presence, even though she would not know the same things Luke would, due to his being a Jedi. I suppose they could flash back to when that happened.

I suspect she is some sort of a relative. Though Luke may have just smiled because he had been expecting her, because the blabber mouth metaclorines told him about her.
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Re: Rogue One a Star Wars story.

Postby patches70 on Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:42 pm

It's possible she was a youngling in Luke's Jedi school. She got smuggled out while the rest of the younglings were wiped out by Kylo and she is the lone survivor. Max Von Sydow's character was a known ally of Luke Skywalker back in the old days. He even had some role in the Battle of Endor. In the Force Awakens you see Rey's memory of her being left on the planet. Her parents could literally be anyone and they don't matter because it was discovered when she was very very young to be force sensitive and sent by her irrelevant parents to the Jedi school. Max's character was tasked with keeping an eye on her on the desert planet she was dropped off on.
Luke knows her because he remembers her from the younglings school. She's forgotten about the youngling school because she was too young and too new to even really understand what she was getting into. What little she did learn is still in her mind.

Luke goes into exile and hides, but there is a map that Max has so that Rey can find Luke when she's old enough and ready. He may be reuniting with a former student. We'll find out in the next movie when he and Rey talk.
In the Force Awakens Rey has a dream about an island in the middle of a sea and lo and behold she finds Luke on an island in the middle of a sea.

I think she's had some Jedi training when she was really young and she's simply forgotten about it.
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Postby betiko on Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:01 pm

2dimes wrote:Again, after the mediclorine debacle, anything can happen. Maybe she's Luke's time traveling great grandmother.

Ok, even though Jedi are forbidden to have a family because attatchments can cause pain and lead them to the dark side, let's say betiko is right and she is Luke's daughter...

Why did she not know what his light saber was?
Who trained her in stick fighting but was unaware of the Force, or Jedis?
Who is the mother and what happened to her?
Why didn't she know R2-D2 and C-3PO?
She would have at least heard of Uncle Han and Chewbacca.

And finally I'll write it again, I believe aunt Leia would have known her niece or at least, sensed her presence, even though she would not know the same things Luke would, due to his being a Jedi. I suppose they could flash back to when that happened.

I suspect she is some sort of a relative. Though Luke may have just smiled because he had been expecting her, because the blabber mouth metaclorines told him about her.


dude seriously. Luke is a freaking super jedi. He is allowed to fancy a shag once in a while. He's also allowed to leave his old lady when she tells him she's pregnant and it's time to change space diapers.
He is just Rey's genitor but that doesn't mean they know each other nor that rey's mother told her much about him.
She could also be a padawan; but this new trilogy is obviously there to show a continuity with the original characters, at least a bloodline. The entire story is about the skywalker bloodline... so with luke and leia now totally minor characters; and kylo ren being on the dark side; there has to be a skywalker on the side of the Force, which could only be Rey. Everything in her screams "skywalker!!"

I haven't done any search after the force awakens, but with my mates we really saw the last scene as a first encounter between father and daughter... master and padawan. I might be wrong, but do you really think skywalkers aren't the continuity of the entire saga? Each trilogy being about the next generation?
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Re: Rogue One a Star Wars story.

Postby Symmetry on Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:39 am

Chewie1 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I want to get this off my chest, without spoiling anything. The end of episode 7:

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Stupid Star Wars.



Keeping with Starwars the new Hope.... that bitch never gave me a medal when I helped destroy the first deathstar..... but i dont hold a grudge.


She definitely has a problem with Chewie. That's canonical at this point. As far as I'm concerned, what happens on the Falcon stays on the Falcon. The family could do with therapy though, and that ain't Chewbacca's fault.

Leia needs to work out her issues (PTSD?) and realise that the man she married was already in a committed relationship. Asking him to bring back their son, after giving him over to be "trained" by his weirdly incestuous uncle was only going to push him away and end in disaster.
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