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Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

Postby mrswdk on Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:29 am

Donelladan wrote:Well, you want to say we are lazy, and you want to keep working 11hours a day 6 days a week, while French people work 35 hours a week, 5 days a week.
BE MY GUEST.


And people in Europe wonder why their economies are stagnating while the world's economic center of power shifts to Asia.

You think we are lazy, truth is we enjoy our lives much more than you Chinese do. I have no problem with you calling me lazy, I pity Chinese way of life. I truly do.
Remember me how much holiday do you have a year ? What a joke.


In China people have a week of national holiday for Spring Festival and another week of national holiday for National Day, plus a couple of other (shorter) national holidays. There are also legally entitled to at least 5 extra days of annual leave, rising to 15 the longer they have been at their company.

People working the sort of hours you're talking about (11-hour days, 6 days a week) are people who work in shops, run roadside food/drink locations and so on. They'll spend half that time chilling out by themselves or hanging with their customers. Those aren't jobs that are going to give people that 'I need a holiday' feeling.
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Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:31 am

Typical day in French worker:
1)plot terrorist attack
2) blame all problems on people speaking Corsican instead of franch
3) sue employer

sounds pretty busy to me
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Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

Postby Donelladan on Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:11 am

mrswdk wrote:
Donelladan wrote:Well, you want to say we are lazy, and you want to keep working 11hours a day 6 days a week, while French people work 35 hours a week, 5 days a week.
BE MY GUEST.


And people in Europe wonder why their economies are stagnating while the world's economic center of power shifts to Asia.




I consider that the purpose of my life isn't to make the economy of my country rising.
I think I should be trying to pursue happiness, not wealth or money. I consider having time to spend with my friends and family is the most important thing. The less I spend time at work the more I can spend time with them.
Technology ( robots for example) should allow humanity to spend less time doing hard work and more time doing other kind of activity.



Again, I think chinese got it all wrong :
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... china-work


The consequences of such relentless work can be dire. Reports in China’s state-run media last year claimed that a staggering 600,000 citizens were dying from over-work each year.

A 2012 editorial in the China Daily newspaper complained: “Employers cajole, persuade, goad or force their workers to work overtime because they want to perform better in China’s highly competitive market to ensure that they don’t go out of business.”


But maybe there is hope for you, since the same article also says :
“Since the 1980s and 1990s, Chinese workers have been working shorter and shorter hours,” Li said, pointing to improved labour laws, improved productivity and the introduction of two-day weekends.

“We visit many factories every year,” Li added. “In most, working conditions are improving [and] salaries increasing while working hours are decreasing.”


I wish you can reach our level of "laziness" one day ;)
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Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:28 am

Donelladan wrote:
I consider that the purpose of my life isn't to make the economy of my country rising.
I think I should be trying to pursue happiness, not wealth or money. I consider having time to spend with my friends and family is the most important thing. The less I spend time at work the more I can spend time with them.


So why keep striking every week!?

I can support this opinion, but it doesnt coincide with regular strike action, that benefits no one.
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Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

Postby mrswdk on Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:40 am

DoomYoshi wrote:Typical day in French worker:
1)plot terrorist attack
2) blame all problems on people speaking Corsican instead of franch
3) sue employer

sounds pretty busy to me


Not to forget the creation of new French words to replace English loan words.
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Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

Postby mrswdk on Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:44 am

Donelladan wrote:Technology ( robots for example) should allow humanity to spend less time doing hard work and more time doing other kind of activity.


You mean, just like happened after the industrial revolution?
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Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

Postby Donelladan on Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:31 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Donelladan wrote:
I consider that the purpose of my life isn't to make the economy of my country rising.
I think I should be trying to pursue happiness, not wealth or money. I consider having time to spend with my friends and family is the most important thing. The less I spend time at work the more I can spend time with them.


So why keep striking every week!?

I can support this opinion, but it doesnt coincide with regular strike action, that benefits no one.


Yes this opinion does coincide with strike action.
First of all, we aren't striking every week, and there is no such thing as "regular" strike action.

I dunno how it happened in other country, but paid holiday is a right that we won in France after making a strike for example.
And most of the strikes are strike to protect rights related to work, to prevent our working condition to become worse.


mrswdk wrote:
Donelladan wrote:Technology ( robots for example) should allow humanity to spend less time doing hard work and more time doing other kind of activity.


You mean, just like happened after the industrial revolution?


I don't care much about robotic. I mean, someone life's purpose isn't money or economy, it's happiness. If working a lot make you happy, then that is what you should do.
French people ( apparently - can't speak for everyone ) seems to think that spending less time at work, and more time doing other thing is better for them. So that's what we do.
If you want to say we are lazy, up to you, doesn't matter to me. That's all.

But your OP is wrong, and your link says we aren't.
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Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

Postby Army of GOD on Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:29 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Wow, you cherry picked a bias confirming article


Would you like saxi to rub your clit?


AoG, we are having to build a lorry park near the chanel tunnel because the french port worker loves striking.

Thats right we are spending £250M because the french are lazy and strike regularly for no reason.

Lazy people don't strike though


I know this because I'm lazy
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Re: French man sues company over 'boring' job

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:39 am

Army of GOD wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Wow, you cherry picked a bias confirming article


Would you like saxi to rub your clit?


AoG, we are having to build a lorry park near the chanel tunnel because the french port worker loves striking.

Thats right we are spending £250M because the french are lazy and strike regularly for no reason.

Lazy people don't strike though


I know this because I'm lazy

http://livingstingy.blogspot.ca/2010/07/tale-of-man-who-was-too-lazy-to-fail.html
Robert Heinlein wrote a short story based loosely on his Naval Academy experiences about a man so lazy that he became successful. It is an interesting parable.

(...)

It was the Tale of the Man Who Was Too Lazy to Fail. It is a funny story, loosely based on some of his experiences at the Naval Academy. A young officer, assigned to a particular task, realizes that the laborious way people were doing it before was shortsighted ("We've always done it this way" - how many times have you heard that?). So he finds shortcuts to make his job easier, because he is so incredibly lazy. Since he gets his work done faster (and better) he gets promoted - again and again.

The story follows him to his private life were a similar thing occurs and before long he ends up a millionaire.

It is an interesting and useful story, in my opinion, as it illustrates several aspects of human nature that we should all be aware of. First, is the tendency of people to do the same things over and over again without questioning why they are doing them - and whether they can be done differently or better. Many inventors who come to me for advice have not come up with earth-shattering inventions. Rather, they have just noticed what others have blinded themselves to - that there are better ways of doing things. And oftentimes, people argue - in hindsight - that such inventions are therefore "obvious". But of course, they are obvious to us now.....

Second, seeing things from different angles is vitally important if you really want to succeed in life. Many folks like to "follow the herd", convinced that there is safety in numbers. There can be safety at the center of the herd, but as I have pointed out before, the grass there is trampled down and pooped upon. And often the herd can be spooked into a dangerous and ill-conceived stampede - sometimes off a cliff!

Third, while blinding ambition is not necessarily a bad thing, many people who are successful become so not through trickery, deception, and sharp practice, but rather through lack of ambition and the use of innovation in the place of hard work. The people who desperately climb the corporate ladder - willing to stab a co-worker in the back at a moment's notice - rarely really "succeed" in life, either on a financial or personal level (or not both). Such success is transitory at best and illusory at worst.
“‎Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats.”
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