As I've said before, if I do vote, it will be 3rd party. I cannot, in good conscience, even consider voting for either of them, as it would go against a good many of my own morals, ethics, and beliefs.
Believe it or not, I registered as a Republican when I turned 18. Why? Because of people like Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower.
Those three would be wondering what the hell happened to their party (even Teddy, despite leaving it). Especially to allow someone like Trump to become the nominee for President.
Needless to say, I've grown incredibly disillusioned of the GOP.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Trump is a genuinely bad person too. You know how many small businesses he put out of business because he wouldn't pay and threatened to tie up in court for years? How about claiming bankruptcy four times, making sure he himself got paid in excess of $400,000 monthly (oh no, the horror of a billionaire being reduced to a millionaire) while who knows how many of his employees got tossed out.
Or how about being thin-skinned about near everything that is remotely not in his favor? Or attacking other people and their families and their reputations if they don't bow down to his every whim?
You're trivializing Trump, or simply deflecting to Clinton.
He's an asshole and I said as much. But does he want to go around starting wars with foreign countries? So far he shows no sign of it.
Maybe the people who draw parallels between Trump and Hitler are right. Maybe he will turn out to be the worst possible choice. I don't pretend to have a crystal ball. But based on what has been said and done in the past, Hillary seems firmly committed to American imperialism, whereas about Trump it's just a "maybe."
If sure if elected, he'll steal billions. That will be cheap compared to the potential cost of wars Hillary will start.
Think the real argument is, why vote for a lesser a evil? How did it honestly come down to a stinky piece of shit, over a polished piece of shit? Where in the f*ck did the rational minds of America run off to? It boggles the mind that these two got so far and it comes down to "Well, I think so and so is a lesser evil because herpaderp."
It's pretty fucked that the two major political parties have such incredibly poor choices, I'm not certain if these die hard party members just vote for the sake of it, but people really need to look into these candidates and wonder "How can they improve our situation" over "How badly can he f*ck this country up over the guy?"
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saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
muy_thaiguy wrote:As I've said before, if I do vote, it will be 3rd party. I cannot, in good conscience, even consider voting for either of them, as it would go against a good many of my own morals, ethics, and beliefs.
Believe it or not, I registered as a Republican when I turned 18. Why? Because of people like Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower.
Those three would be wondering what the hell happened to their party (even Teddy, despite leaving it). Especially to allow someone like Trump to become the nominee for President.
Needless to say, I've grown incredibly disillusioned of the GOP.
Someone like Trump? He's a self-made man, the living American Dream... He will probably help the image of America in the world more than Obama stealing the Nobel like a black man robbing 7-11.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Trump is a genuinely bad person too. You know how many small businesses he put out of business because he wouldn't pay and threatened to tie up in court for years? How about claiming bankruptcy four times, making sure he himself got paid in excess of $400,000 monthly (oh no, the horror of a billionaire being reduced to a millionaire) while who knows how many of his employees got tossed out.
Or how about being thin-skinned about near everything that is remotely not in his favor? Or attacking other people and their families and their reputations if they don't bow down to his every whim?
You're trivializing Trump, or simply deflecting to Clinton.
He's an asshole and I said as much. But does he want to go around starting wars with foreign countries? So far he shows no sign of it.
Maybe the people who draw parallels between Trump and Hitler are right. Maybe he will turn out to be the worst possible choice. I don't pretend to have a crystal ball. But based on what has been said and done in the past, Hillary seems firmly committed to American imperialism, whereas about Trump it's just a "maybe."
If sure if elected, he'll steal billions. That will be cheap compared to the potential cost of wars Hillary will start.
Think the real argument is, why vote for a lesser a evil?
Well, if I was an American I'd be voting Libertarian this year, that's for sure. Of course, still wouldn't win. Unfortunately.
It's sad, but at this point one of the pieces of shit will win for sure. The next four years will be pretty bad.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:How did it honestly come down to a stinky piece of shit, over a polished piece of shit? Where in the f*ck did the rational minds of America run off to? It boggles the mind that these two got so far and it comes down to "Well, I think so and so is a lesser evil because herpaderp."
It's pretty fucked that the two major political parties have such incredibly poor choices, I'm not certain if these die hard party members just vote for the sake of it, but people really need to look into these candidates and wonder "How can they improve our situation" over "How badly can he f*ck this country up over the guy?"
How did it get to be so bad? It's pretty simple, really.
Here's one-third of the problem. FPTP gradually reduces choice:
Here's another third of the problem: negative messages work. More elections are won by people voting against something than by people voting for something. The major American parties have for decades spent more time and money putting negative labels on the opposition than positive labels on themselves. This year's crop isn't anything new, it's just refined to a higher level than ever before.
Here's the final third. Building on the first two, Advanced Brainwashing 440 (no, it has nothing to do with putting LSD in the water or Korean prison camps. It's super-simple shit that Donald Trump and your local Filter Queen salesman have in common.):
“Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats.” ― Voltaire
