Save the Grey Wolf in America

by **Anarkistsdream** on Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:50 pm

https://secure.defenders.org/site/Advoc ... qb6.app23a

By removing wolves in Idaho, Wyoming and Montana from the list of federally protected endangered species last week, the Bush/Cheney Administration has officially green-lighted state plans to kill as many as 70% of the wolves in Greater Yellowstone and the Northern Rockies.

The announcement opened the door to the elimination of more than a 1,000 wolves by aerial gunning, trapping, poisoning and other lethal methods. It could also close the door on wolf restoration in Oregon, Washington, Colorado and other parts of the gray wolf's historic range.

And with southwest wolf recovery continuing to falter, it's time for a national plan to ensure a lasting future for our wolves.

Folks like you and me can make a huge difference for America's wolves. Here's how: Go online to http://action.defenders.org/ourwolves and urge U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Director Dale Hall to adopt a national wolf recovery plan.

Will you help me convince federal officials to protect our wolves? Send your message online at:

http://action.defenders.org/ourwolves

Thanks for helping!

by **Juan_Bottom** on Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:43 pm

Done! I'm pretty upset about shooting wolves from helicopters. Just heard about this yesterday, Thank You!

by **heavycola** on Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:44 pm

why do they want to kill them so badly?

by **Visaoni** on Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:49 pm

heavycola wrote:why do they want to kill them so badly?

They're Republicans. If they can't shoot a person, a wild animal is the next best thing. More points are given for animals closer to extinction.

by **mandalorian2298** on Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:49 pm

Done. I respect any one wolf much more then I do those humans that need a helicopter and a sniper to take a wolf on.

by **DAZMCFC** on Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:51 pm

Strikewolf is not a bad lad.

seriously, it's not going to be like Fox hunting in Britain is it(which i'm not really that bothered with as they a prospering in City Centres now).

by **Juan_Bottom** on Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:28 pm

Visaoni wrote:
heavycola wrote:why do they want to kill them so badly?

They're Republicans. If they can't shoot a person, a wild animal is the next best thing. More points are given for animals closer to extinction.

mandalorian2298 wrote:Done. I respect any one wolf much more then I do those humans that need a helicopter and a sniper to take a wolf on.

Ditto.

by **muy_thaiguy** on Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:37 pm

Visaoni wrote:
heavycola wrote:why do they want to kill them so badly?

They're Republicans. If they can't shoot a person, a wild animal is the next best thing. More points are given for animals closer to extinction.

GFY.

Anyways, I live in Southern Wyoming and never really had wolves in this area, but it is still in my state and I do want to protect them.

by **Nobunaga** on Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:05 pm

... Yeah, I like wolves, but this thread is ignoring the plight of the ranchers who are seeing their cattle hunted and devoured by these predators.

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by **Juan_Bottom** on Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:14 pm

Nobunaga wrote:... Yeah, I like wolves, but this thread is ignoring the plight of the ranchers who are seeing their cattle hunted and devoured by these predators.

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What about all those poor orphans who are raised by wild wolves?

by **muy_thaiguy** on Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:41 pm

Nobunaga wrote:... Yeah, I like wolves, but this thread is ignoring the plight of the ranchers who are seeing their cattle hunted and devoured by these predators.

....

Actually, wolves seldom hunt livestock, and only when there is no other choice. The main problem would be coyotes that attack livestock. I can garuntee you on this one.

by **Juan_Bottom** on Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:51 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:... Yeah, I like wolves, but this thread is ignoring the plight of the ranchers who are seeing their cattle hunted and devoured by these predators.

....

Actually, wolves seldom hunt livestock, and only when there is no other choice. The main problem would be coyotes that attack livestock. I can garuntee you on this one.

Coyotes?

Fur really ya'll have that problem??? That's hilarious!

I can't believe no one cares. We should be on page 11 by now, shouldn't we?

by **InkL0sed** on Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:14 am

Um. Juan. You're making an ass of yourself.

More than usual, I mean.

by **Nobunaga** on Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:37 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:... Yeah, I like wolves, but this thread is ignoring the plight of the ranchers who are seeing their cattle hunted and devoured by these predators.

....

Actually, wolves seldom hunt livestock, and only when there is no other choice. The main problem would be coyotes that attack livestock. I can garuntee you on this one.

... Learn something new every day. Thank you.

... STOP killing the Grey Wolf!!!!

...

by **muy_thaiguy** on Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:35 am

Nobunaga wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:... Yeah, I like wolves, but this thread is ignoring the plight of the ranchers who are seeing their cattle hunted and devoured by these predators.

....

Actually, wolves seldom hunt livestock, and only when there is no other choice. The main problem would be coyotes that attack livestock. I can garuntee you on this one.

... Learn something new every day. Thank you.

... STOP killing the Grey Wolf!!!!

...

No prob.

by **Curmudgeonx** on Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:58 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:... Yeah, I like wolves, but this thread is ignoring the plight of the ranchers who are seeing their cattle hunted and devoured by these predators.

....

Actually, wolves seldom hunt livestock, and only when there is no other choice. The main problem would be coyotes that attack livestock. I can garuntee you on this one.

Coyotes? Fur really ya'll have that problem??? That's hilarious!

I can't believe no one cares. We should be on page 11 by now, shouldn't we?

Coyotes have made a dramatic population comeback and now can be seen in suburban areas here in Southwest Ohio. My family back home is much more rural and the cats can't go out at night because of the coyotes.

by **Anarkistsdream** on Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:18 am

This isn't about coyotes, though... It's about an endangered species.

Juan, you can't seriously not care. And if you truly don't, you're the kind of person I'd never want to meet in real life, because I'd knock you on your ass.

by **Juan_Bottom** on Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:04 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:This isn't about coyotes, though... It's about an endangered species.

Juan, you can't seriously not care. And if you truly don't, you're the kind of person I'd never want to meet in real life, because I'd knock you on your ass.

Wha???? You missunderstood me!!!!! I was the first poster to follow your link and send out the letter! I was talking about everyone else in the Chatter Box. By now, everyone should have signed the letter. They're the assholes!

by **Anarkistsdream** on Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:51 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:This isn't about coyotes, though... It's about an endangered species.

Juan, you can't seriously not care. And if you truly don't, you're the kind of person I'd never want to meet in real life, because I'd knock you on your ass.

Wha???? You missunderstood me!!!!! I was the first poster to follow your link and send out the letter! I was talking about everyone else in the Chatter Box. By now, everyone should have signed the letter. They're the assholes!

Oh, I did... And so, too, did Inklosed, apparently... Sorry, sarcasm doesn't translate well on the interwebz...

My apologies.

by **Curmudgeonx** on Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:11 am

The squeaky wheel got the grease:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25741975

by **Fircoal** on Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:02 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:
Visaoni wrote:
heavycola wrote:why do they want to kill them so badly?

They're Republicans. If they can't shoot a person, a wild animal is the next best thing. More points are given for animals closer to extinction.

mandalorian2298 wrote:Done. I respect any one wolf much more then I do those humans that need a helicopter and a sniper to take a wolf on.

Ditto.

I QFT this, I signed it. Then I read curmud's post. Good to see that they'll provide the protection back up again.

by **Bavarian Raven** on Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:06 pm

i'll bk up what was said. i spend a lot of time hiking and the such, and i have rarely come across livestock killed by wolves. and when i mean rarely i mean only once...and the cow was probably already sick or injured.