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McCain is Unelectable

Postby DaGip on Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:05 pm

I would just like to make the point that McCain (a.k.a. McLoser) is totally unelectable. Therefore, the Republican party should choose Ron Paul as its nominee.

Ron Paul has the best chance at defeating Obama...otherwise kiss the election good bye!

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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby InkL0sed on Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:20 pm

Because Ron Paul is electable?

Before you claim that there's a whole "Revolution" going on for him -- the people that support him are nowhere near large enough in numbers to win in an election.
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby DaGip on Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:40 pm

InkL0sed wrote:Because Ron Paul is electable?

Before you claim that there's a whole "Revolution" going on for him -- the people that support him are nowhere near large enough in numbers to win in an election.


Ron Paul is more electable than McCain would ever be. McCain is a guaranteed loss. Ron Paul got shut out by the corporate media complex. People I talked too didn't even know WHO Ron Paul was until I kept talking about him and giving them information. 22% of the people in my county voted for Ron Paul, despite his being censored in the media. McCain will never win without Ron Paul supporters, that's a fact!

Without Ron Paul in the White House, we all deserve to be homeless and eat dirt!

It's coming...it's coming soon, because America is taking a big fat shit on God's head...

Bye, bye American Pie!
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby jay_a2j on Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:43 pm

DaGip wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Because Ron Paul is electable?

Before you claim that there's a whole "Revolution" going on for him -- the people that support him are nowhere near large enough in numbers to win in an election.


Ron Paul is more electable than McCain would ever be. McCain is a guaranteed loss. Ron Paul got shut out by the corporate media complex. People I talked too didn't even know WHO Ron Paul was until I kept talking about him and giving them information. 22% of the people in my county voted for Ron Paul, despite his being censored in the media. McCain will never win without Ron Paul supporters, that's a fact!

Without Ron Paul in the White House, we all deserve to be homeless and eat dirt!

It's coming...it's coming soon, because America is taking a big fat shit on God's head...

Bye, bye American Pie!



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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby InkL0sed on Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:47 pm

DaGip wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Because Ron Paul is electable?

Before you claim that there's a whole "Revolution" going on for him -- the people that support him are nowhere near large enough in numbers to win in an election.


Ron Paul is more electable than McCain would ever be. McCain is a guaranteed loss. Ron Paul got shut out by the corporate media complex. People I talked too didn't even know WHO Ron Paul was until I kept talking about him and giving them information. 22% of the people in my county voted for Ron Paul, despite his being censored in the media. McCain will never win without Ron Paul supporters, that's a fact!

Without Ron Paul in the White House, we all deserve to be homeless and eat dirt!

It's coming...it's coming soon, because America is taking a big fat shit on God's head...

Bye, bye American Pie!


Not at all true. Granted McCain is the underdog, but the polls are pretty close. Saying he has "no chance" is just a lie, plain and simple. I sometimes get very very worried that McCain will be elected... gives me the shivers.

And 22% of the people in your country? Bull shit. First of all, only about half the country votes in Republican primaries, in which I never saw him get more than 10% of the vote. If it were a caucus, Democrats would have called him not "viable", and his votes would have gone to another candidate.

So what's 10% of 50%? A whopping 5% of the country, big max, voted for Ron Paul. Last time I checked, that makes him a little less viable than McCain.

The funny thing is, even though I admire Ron Paul's honesty as a politician, I would be even more worried about a Paul Presidency than a McCain one. I can't imagine policies that would be more damaging than his. If Ron Paul were President, then you would know the meaning of depression. Which won't happen even under McCain.
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby jay_a2j on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:01 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
DaGip wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Because Ron Paul is electable?

Before you claim that there's a whole "Revolution" going on for him -- the people that support him are nowhere near large enough in numbers to win in an election.


Ron Paul is more electable than McCain would ever be. McCain is a guaranteed loss. Ron Paul got shut out by the corporate media complex. People I talked too didn't even know WHO Ron Paul was until I kept talking about him and giving them information. 22% of the people in my county voted for Ron Paul, despite his being censored in the media. McCain will never win without Ron Paul supporters, that's a fact!

Without Ron Paul in the White House, we all deserve to be homeless and eat dirt!

It's coming...it's coming soon, because America is taking a big fat shit on God's head...

Bye, bye American Pie!


Not at all true. Granted McCain is the underdog, but the polls are pretty close. Saying he has "no chance" is just a lie, plain and simple. I sometimes get very very worried that McCain will be elected... gives me the shivers.

And 22% of the people in your country? Bull shit. First of all, only about half the country votes in Republican primaries, in which I never saw him get more than 10% of the vote. If it were a caucus, Democrats would have called him not "viable", and his votes would have gone to another candidate.

So what's 10% of 50%? A whopping 5% of the country, big max, voted for Ron Paul. Last time I checked, that makes him a little less viable than McCain.

The funny thing is, even though I admire Ron Paul's honesty as a politician, I would be even more worried about a Paul Presidency than a McCain one. I can't imagine policies that would be more damaging than his. If Ron Paul were President, then you would know the meaning of depression. Which won't happen even under McCain.



I believe Ron Paul got more than 10% in Nevada and Pennsylvania. And maybe others.
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:05 pm

jay_a2j wrote:I believe Ron Paul got more than 10% in Nevada and Pennsylvania. And maybe others.


I believe (don't quote me here) that Ron Paul averaged 21% in the Republican primaries.
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby Hologram on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:23 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
DaGip wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Because Ron Paul is electable?

Before you claim that there's a whole "Revolution" going on for him -- the people that support him are nowhere near large enough in numbers to win in an election.


Ron Paul is more electable than McCain would ever be. McCain is a guaranteed loss. Ron Paul got shut out by the corporate media complex. People I talked too didn't even know WHO Ron Paul was until I kept talking about him and giving them information. 22% of the people in my county voted for Ron Paul, despite his being censored in the media. McCain will never win without Ron Paul supporters, that's a fact!

Without Ron Paul in the White House, we all deserve to be homeless and eat dirt!

It's coming...it's coming soon, because America is taking a big fat shit on God's head...

Bye, bye American Pie!


Not at all true. Granted McCain is the underdog, but the polls are pretty close. Saying he has "no chance" is just a lie, plain and simple. I sometimes get very very worried that McCain will be elected... gives me the shivers.

And 22% of the people in your country? Bull shit. First of all, only about half the country votes in Republican primaries, in which I never saw him get more than 10% of the vote. If it were a caucus, Democrats would have called him not "viable", and his votes would have gone to another candidate.

So what's 10% of 50%? A whopping 5% of the country, big max, voted for Ron Paul. Last time I checked, that makes him a little less viable than McCain.

The funny thing is, even though I admire Ron Paul's honesty as a politician, I would be even more worried about a Paul Presidency than a McCain one. I can't imagine policies that would be more damaging than his. If Ron Paul were President, then you would know the meaning of depression. Which won't happen even under McCain.

I agree with your rant, but just as a correction, he said county, not country. It's probably how Paul got the whopping 8 delegates in the primary race.
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby demon7896 on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:27 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
DaGip wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Because Ron Paul is electable?

Before you claim that there's a whole "Revolution" going on for him -- the people that support him are nowhere near large enough in numbers to win in an election.


Ron Paul is more electable than McCain would ever be. McCain is a guaranteed loss. Ron Paul got shut out by the corporate media complex. People I talked too didn't even know WHO Ron Paul was until I kept talking about him and giving them information. 22% of the people in my county voted for Ron Paul, despite his being censored in the media. McCain will never win without Ron Paul supporters, that's a fact!

Without Ron Paul in the White House, we all deserve to be homeless and eat dirt!

It's coming...it's coming soon, because America is taking a big fat shit on God's head...

Bye, bye American Pie!


Not at all true. Granted McCain is the underdog, but the polls are pretty close. Saying he has "no chance" is just a lie, plain and simple. I sometimes get very very worried that McCain will be elected... gives me the shivers.

And 22% of the people in your country? Bull shit. First of all, only about half the country votes in Republican primaries, in which I never saw him get more than 10% of the vote. If it were a caucus, Democrats would have called him not "viable", and his votes would have gone to another candidate.

So what's 10% of 50%? A whopping 5% of the country, big max, voted for Ron Paul. Last time I checked, that makes him a little less viable than McCain.

The funny thing is, even though I admire Ron Paul's honesty as a politician, I would be even more worried about a Paul Presidency than a McCain one. I can't imagine policies that would be more damaging than his. If Ron Paul were President, then you would know the meaning of depression. Which won't happen even under McCain.

I think he said county.
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby tzor on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:32 pm

DaGip wrote:I would just like to make the point that McCain (a.k.a. McLoser) is totally unelectable. Therefore, the Republican party should choose Ron Paul as its nominee.

Ron Paul has the best chance at defeating Obama...otherwise kiss the election good bye!


Let us consider this point that McCain is unelectable and that Ron Paul is not only electable but has the best chance at defeating Obama. :lol: Let us carefully consider this. :lol: Let us avoid rolling on the floor and laughing out loud. :lol: But just in case let us review the instructions.

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There is no way that Ron Paul would even be remotely electable. Please extend your arms and grip reality firmly because there is not even a significant minority of libertarians in the Republican party never mind the large numbers of Democratic controlled states where people (gasp) actually want unions and big government. Not only that but half the Republlicans would vote for Obama just because. So when all is said and done he would pull 1/5 of 1/2 the votes or 10 percent and Obama would be the only president other than the General to get all the electoral votes because that 10 percent wouldn't win a single state.

Ron Paul vs Hillary? That would have been a long shot but doable. Ron Paul vs Obamma is pure loose.
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby jay_a2j on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:37 pm

Hologram wrote: It's probably how Paul got the whopping 8 delegates in the primary race.



Last I heard it was 19 delegates.
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby DaGip on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:38 pm

tzor wrote:
DaGip wrote:I would just like to make the point that McCain (a.k.a. McLoser) is totally unelectable. Therefore, the Republican party should choose Ron Paul as its nominee.

Ron Paul has the best chance at defeating Obama...otherwise kiss the election good bye!


Let us consider this point that McCain is unelectable and that Ron Paul is not only electable but has the best chance at defeating Obama. :lol: Let us carefully consider this. :lol: Let us avoid rolling on the floor and laughing out loud. :lol: But just in case let us review the instructions.

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There is no way that Ron Paul would even be remotely electable. Please extend your arms and grip reality firmly because there is not even a significant minority of libertarians in the Republican party never mind the large numbers of Democratic controlled states where people (gasp) actually want unions and big government. Not only that but half the Republlicans would vote for Obama just because. So when all is said and done he would pull 1/5 of 1/2 the votes or 10 percent and Obama would be the only president other than the General to get all the electoral votes because that 10 percent wouldn't win a single state.

Ron Paul vs Hillary? That would have been a long shot but doable. Ron Paul vs Obamma is pure loose.


And thusly your country goes into oblivion...very laughable (this is sarcasm and sadness)...
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby Hologram on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:43 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
Hologram wrote: It's probably how Paul got the whopping 8 delegates in the primary race.



Last I heard it was 19 delegates.

Probably. I haven't watched the primaries very closely due to the fact that I wasn't able to vote in them because A) I'm underage until August and B) I registered independent, and in Oregon, that means a DQ from voting in party elections. The point is that the amount of delegates is negligible, and while they may be able to pull off a running for Paul to maybe, maybe, maybe be VP and have McCain/Paul possibly win the election (though personally, I think McCain being associated with a libertarian who is almost completely against his policies would be more detrimental than anything), a Paul presidency is nigh impossible when everyone loves Obama or agrees with McCain.
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby DaGip on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:43 pm

McCain and Obama do not represent true change, despite their using of the word...because that is all it is, a word.


Neither one has any idea of how to get us out of the predicament that we are in, and the economic one JUST CAME up during the debates! They don't have a fucking clue on what to do.

The only one who does is Ron Paul. He is the only candidate that is offering true change from what you brainwashed neocon fuckfaces are being lead into believing is the change you want...HA! Like going into other wars is the change YOU WANT!

Why don't you guys see that the Constitution is under attack in this country. Your bigger government can kiss my ass, because I will defend my liberty with the entirety of my God-given soul!

Keep laughing, all the way into Armageddon...then start weeping and gnashing your teeth, because by that time it will be to late!

Just fair warning.
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby Hologram on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:49 pm

DaGip wrote:McCain and Obama do not represent true change, despite their using of the word...because that is all it is, a word.


Neither one has any idea of how to get us out of the predicament that we are in, and the economic one JUST CAME up during the debates! They don't have a fucking clue on what to do.

The only one who does is Ron Paul. He is the only candidate that is offering true change from what you brainwashed neocon fuckfaces are being lead into believing is the change you want...HA! Like going into other wars is the change YOU WANT!

Why don't you guys see that the Constitution is under attack in this country. Your bigger government can kiss my ass, because I will defend my liberty with the entirety of my God-given soul!

Keep laughing, all the way into Armageddon...then start weeping and gnashing your teeth, because by that time it will be to late!

Just fair warning.

Gip, I agree with your wanting a small government. I think that's the way it should be and that the U.S. shouldn't be trying to make a sphere of influence all over the world and a welfare state within their own borders. The problem is that change that radical can't be done in one election. It has to be a gradual change, especially when the citizenry is used to and likes the idea of the big bad U.S.A. having the biggest baddest toys and being able to whoop on anyone who dares challenge her authority and the idea that the government will take care of me if I don't want to work.

Also, please don't bring your Armageddon ideas in here and ruin an otherwise perfectly valid point. It just makes everyone laugh at you instead of taking into true consideration your points.
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby DaGip on Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:03 pm

Hologram wrote:
DaGip wrote:McCain and Obama do not represent true change, despite their using of the word...because that is all it is, a word.


Neither one has any idea of how to get us out of the predicament that we are in, and the economic one JUST CAME up during the debates! They don't have a fucking clue on what to do.

The only one who does is Ron Paul. He is the only candidate that is offering true change from what you brainwashed neocon fuckfaces are being lead into believing is the change you want...HA! Like going into other wars is the change YOU WANT!

Why don't you guys see that the Constitution is under attack in this country. Your bigger government can kiss my ass, because I will defend my liberty with the entirety of my God-given soul!

Keep laughing, all the way into Armageddon...then start weeping and gnashing your teeth, because by that time it will be to late!

Just fair warning.

Gip, I agree with your wanting a small government. I think that's the way it should be and that the U.S. shouldn't be trying to make a sphere of influence all over the world and a welfare state within their own borders. The problem is that change that radical can't be done in one election. It has to be a gradual change, especially when the citizenry is used to and likes the idea of the big bad U.S.A. having the biggest baddest toys and being able to whoop on anyone who dares challenge her authority and the idea that the government will take care of me if I don't want to work.

Also, please don't bring your Armageddon ideas in here and ruin an otherwise perfectly valid point. It just makes everyone laugh at you instead of taking into true consideration your points.


That might be how you think, that big government is going to solve all your problems. Don't you see that that is Communism? And the NeoCons that are in power are all indoctrinated in Communist philosophy. That basically means that the government is going to supersede upon all our lives more and more, this is not what our forefathers wanted.

I think Ron Paul's timing is perfect, and his philosophy needs to be upheld and aspired to, before it is too late.

And when I speak about Armageddon, I am not alone, as jay brought it up earlier. Many of us believe that this is the end that is warned to us in Revelation. You don't have to believe it, but you are watching it all unfold. Do you think that all the big bad weapons can stop God? And if you don't believe in God, then do you think all the big bad weapons can stop nature or the cosmos?

If what Ron Paul says is wrong, then tell me where he is wrong?

I can tell you where McCain is wrong:

Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
I need to be educated on the economy...
Gay people should be allowed to marry...gay people should not be allowed to marry.
The president of Germany is Putin...
Iran is training Al Queda...(Oh shit!) Iran is training extremists, not Al Queda.

Those are just a few. How in the hell did McCain get awarded the leadership of the GOP? The Republicans are now Democrats! Absurd!
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby cmckinney on Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:25 pm

DaGip wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Because Ron Paul is electable?

Before you claim that there's a whole "Revolution" going on for him -- the people that support him are nowhere near large enough in numbers to win in an election.


Ron Paul is more electable than McCain would ever be. McCain is a guaranteed loss. Ron Paul got shut out by the corporate media complex. People I talked too didn't even know WHO Ron Paul was until I kept talking about him and giving them information. 22% of the people in my county voted for Ron Paul, despite his being censored in the media. McCain will never win without Ron Paul supporters, that's a fact!

Without Ron Paul in the White House, we all deserve to be homeless and eat dirt!

It's coming...it's coming soon, because America is taking a big fat shit on God's head...

Bye, bye American Pie!


Of course, without Paul's whopping 24 delegates, McCain has no chance. :roll:
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Re: McCain is Unelectable

Postby Gregrios on Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:31 pm

The only thing that makes McBush(aka.McCain) electable is the fact that there's so many registered republicans who will vote for him simply out of illogical obligation. ;)
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