Conquer Club

"Sit down and shut up"

\\OFF-TOPIC// conversations about everything that has nothing to do with Conquer Club.

Moderator: Community Team

Forum rules
Please read the Community Guidelines before posting.

"Sit down and shut up"

Postby Neoteny on Tue May 27, 2008 12:33 am

A Californian Ford dealership has recently run this advertisement.

"But did you know that 86% of Americans say they believe in God? Since we all know that 86 out of every 100 of us are Christians, who believe in God, we at Kieffe & Sons Ford wonder why we don't just tell the other 14% to sit down and shut up. I guess maybe I just offended 14% of the people who are listening to this message. Well, if that is the case then I say that's tough, this is America folks, it's called free speech. None of us at Kieffe & Sons Ford are afraid to speak out. Kieffe & Sons Ford on Sierra Highway in Mojave and Rosamond, if we don't see you today, by the grace of God, we'll be here tomorrow."

That's a bit ridiculous, methinks. One does what one has to do, I suppose, but imagine him calling out any other part of the population. Blacks? Women? It's irresponsible and purposely inflammatory, I think, and shouldn't be tolerated. Also, why does this guy sound like he's from around where I live?

Oh, here's a link to the ad...

http://www.mediafire.com/?g1f492lbruy
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
User avatar
Major Neoteny
 
Posts: 3396
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:24 pm
Location: Atlanta, Georgia

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby wicked on Tue May 27, 2008 12:42 am

Wow. I sure hope to hell they fired their PR director. I mean they're going to get a lot of press, but negative press doesnt sell cars.
User avatar
Major wicked
 
Posts: 15787
Joined: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:23 pm

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby Neoteny on Tue May 27, 2008 12:45 am

wicked wrote:Wow. I sure hope to hell they fired their PR director. I mean they're going to get a lot of press, but negative press doesnt sell cars.


Apparently the dealership is located in a rather conservative area of California, so I don't know how the PR is doing locally, but with statements like that, I'm not sure they care what the press thinks.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
User avatar
Major Neoteny
 
Posts: 3396
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:24 pm
Location: Atlanta, Georgia

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby Dancing Mustard on Tue May 27, 2008 3:13 am

wicked wrote:negative press doesnt sell cars.
I'm going to disagree with that one...

Negative press about the car might not... but negative press about the dealership owner's beliefs, that is going to strike a massive chord with certain segments of society and raise awareness of the business dramatically, well now that just might move some vehicles.

Didn't you see the guy giving out free guns the other week? Sure he had freebies to, but the principle is largely the same; use negative publicity from a sector of society who won't like you as free positive publicity to a sector who do... can't get cheaper of craftier than that.
Wayne wrote:Wow, with a voice like that Dancing Mustard must get all the babes!

Garth wrote:Yeah, I bet he's totally studly and buff.
User avatar
Corporal Dancing Mustard
 
Posts: 5442
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:31 pm
Location: Pushing Buttons

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby MeDeFe on Tue May 27, 2008 5:48 am

So... there's a right to free speech in America, and people who don't believe in god are supposed to sit down and shut up. Yeah, that figures.
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
User avatar
Major MeDeFe
 
Posts: 7831
Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:48 am
Location: Follow the trail of holes in other people's arguments.

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby Napoleon Ier on Tue May 27, 2008 8:15 am

MeDeFe wrote:So... there's a right to free speech in America, and people who don't believe in god are supposed to sit down and shut up. Yeah, that figures.


Sit down and shut up.

You got off lightly as well...Haggard was all for going medieval on your asses.
Le Roy est mort: Vive le Roy!

Dieu et mon Pays.
User avatar
Cadet Napoleon Ier
 
Posts: 2299
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:33 am
Location: Exploiting the third world's genetic plant resources.

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue May 27, 2008 9:08 am

"Shut up 'cos we have freedom of speech"
That's like "This is a gift, that's ten dollars please"
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class jonesthecurl
 
Posts: 4613
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:42 am
Location: disused action figure warehouse

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby Snorri1234 on Tue May 27, 2008 9:14 am

Napoleon Ier wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:So... there's a right to free speech in America, and people who don't believe in god are supposed to sit down and shut up. Yeah, that figures.


Sit down and shut up.

You got off lightly as well...Haggard was all for going medieval on your asses.

:lol:
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."

Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
User avatar
Private Snorri1234
 
Posts: 3438
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:52 am
Location: Right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo.

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby jay_a2j on Tue May 27, 2008 10:01 am

First, we live under the illusion of freedom of speech, we don't actually have it. Second, what does "belief in God" have to do with buying a car?
THE DEBATE IS OVER...
PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.

JESUS SAVES!!!
User avatar
Lieutenant jay_a2j
 
Posts: 4293
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:22 am
Location: In the center of the R3VOJUTION!

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue May 27, 2008 10:30 am

Neoteny wrote:
wicked wrote:Wow. I sure hope to hell they fired their PR director. I mean they're going to get a lot of press, but negative press doesnt sell cars.


Apparently the dealership is located in a rather conservative area of California, so I don't know how the PR is doing locally, but with statements like that, I'm not sure they care what the press thinks.


ALL of California is conservative ... AND liberal.. together. Makes for some interesting conversations when one steps outside one's own door.
Corporal PLAYER57832
 
Posts: 3085
Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:17 am
Location: Pennsylvania

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby MeDeFe on Tue May 27, 2008 5:34 pm

jay_a2j wrote:First, we live under the illusion of freedom of speech, we don't actually have it. Second, what does "belief in God" have to do with buying a car?

That's the next question. Maybe they guy's thinking that people who don't believe in god are all relativists of some sort and decide what the traffic signs mean for them regardless of what they mean to everyone else.
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
User avatar
Major MeDeFe
 
Posts: 7831
Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:48 am
Location: Follow the trail of holes in other people's arguments.

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby Frigidus on Tue May 27, 2008 6:14 pm

jay_a2j wrote:First, we live under the illusion of freedom of speech, we don't actually have it. Second, what does "belief in God" have to do with buying a car?


But I could go to the street corner and yell essentially anything I want, as long as I don't keep people up or anything. Just stick to the fake 4th amendment, that one's more important anyways.
User avatar
Sergeant Frigidus
 
Posts: 1638
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:15 pm
Location: Illinois, USA

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby Neoteny on Thu May 29, 2008 10:22 am

Apparently the owner regrets the advertisement.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
User avatar
Major Neoteny
 
Posts: 3396
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:24 pm
Location: Atlanta, Georgia

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby Snorri1234 on Thu May 29, 2008 10:31 am

Neoteny wrote:Apparently the owner regrets the advertisement.


Well maybe he will sit down and shut up now.
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."

Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
User avatar
Private Snorri1234
 
Posts: 3438
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:52 am
Location: Right in the middle of a fucking reptile zoo.

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby Neoteny on Thu May 29, 2008 10:33 am

Snorri1234 wrote:
Neoteny wrote:Apparently the owner regrets the advertisement.


Well maybe he will sit down and shut up now.


Perhaps.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
User avatar
Major Neoteny
 
Posts: 3396
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:24 pm
Location: Atlanta, Georgia

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby joecoolfrog on Thu May 29, 2008 10:43 am

Somebody should sue him for misrepresentation, according to the last census only 78% of US citizens described themselves as Christians.
Colonel joecoolfrog
 
Posts: 661
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:29 pm
Location: London ponds

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby MeDeFe on Thu May 29, 2008 10:52 am

Snorri1234 wrote:
Neoteny wrote:Apparently the owner regrets the advertisement.

Well maybe he will sit down and shut up now.

Too bad he won't be running the one with the 15 commandments, though. I liked that movie.
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
User avatar
Major MeDeFe
 
Posts: 7831
Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:48 am
Location: Follow the trail of holes in other people's arguments.

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby tzor on Thu May 29, 2008 10:58 am

MeDeFe wrote:Too bad he won't be running the one with the 15 commandments, though. I liked that movie.


Not that I want to get off topic with Biblical side tracks but there really aren't "ten commandments" in the Bible. This was derived from the description of the stone tablets which had ten words on them. Then there is the text in the Torah (the first five books of the Bible) that describes those ten words. These don't actually parse well into ten commandments and there are currently three different organizations of those words parsed into groups of ten. There is one arrangement commonly used by various Jewish groups, another by Roman Catholics, and still another used by Protetants. If you uncouple all of the sub clauses you get I think over a dozen.
Image
User avatar
Cadet tzor
 
Posts: 4076
Joined: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:43 pm
Location: Long Island, NY, USA

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby MeDeFe on Thu May 29, 2008 11:06 am

Silence! You splitter of hairs.
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
User avatar
Major MeDeFe
 
Posts: 7831
Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:48 am
Location: Follow the trail of holes in other people's arguments.

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby Dancing Mustard on Thu May 29, 2008 11:42 am

MeDeFe wrote:Silence! You splitter of hairs.

From God's eyes he smites at thee.
Last edited by Dancing Mustard on Thu May 29, 2008 11:56 am, edited 1 time in total.
Wayne wrote:Wow, with a voice like that Dancing Mustard must get all the babes!

Garth wrote:Yeah, I bet he's totally studly and buff.
User avatar
Corporal Dancing Mustard
 
Posts: 5442
Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:31 pm
Location: Pushing Buttons

Re: "Sit down and shut up"

Postby tzor on Thu May 29, 2008 11:44 am

MeDeFe wrote:Silence! You splitter of hairs.


Yes I admit it, I split hairs. Fortunately I now use a shampoo that corrects this problem.
Image
User avatar
Cadet tzor
 
Posts: 4076
Joined: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:43 pm
Location: Long Island, NY, USA


Return to Acceptable Content

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users