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Questions (some about legality)

Postby The1exile on Fri May 23, 2008 5:03 pm

No, seriously, I've been thinking about this for a while now (read: about a day).

Is it illegal to have a spike/battering ram/other metal impaling device attached to your car?

If yes, does the situation change if it's retractable?

Regardless of legality, would it not be quite awesome to have a massive retractable spike attached to the front of your car, or am I daft?

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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby suggs on Fri May 23, 2008 5:11 pm

Bets on this just turning into a free - for - all on how many anal jokes people can get in whilst talking about retractable spikes?
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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby InkL0sed on Fri May 23, 2008 5:14 pm

I doubt it's legal anywhere -- and if it isn't probably because it doesn't happen to often.

You'd probably get arrested anyway...
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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby The1exile on Fri May 23, 2008 5:35 pm

Well, really, you're driving a device that can easily go at speeds obscene enough to kill practically anything it hits, is having what is basically a chunk of metal (presumably - any material really) attacked to the front of your car likely to be able to be regulated any more than having spoilers?
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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby tzor on Fri May 23, 2008 6:17 pm

The1exile wrote:Is it illegal to have a spike/battering ram/other metal impaling device attached to your car?


Honestly I don't know ... why? No the why is serious ... first of all you need to have the frame of the car designed to asborb the impact on the spike. Second of all, most hits don't occur dead on to the center of the car. Most people might not be able to avoid a car but they might be able to avoid the spike. Honestly I think a "Cow Catcher" might be more effective, although it might deflect the impact straight to your windshield.
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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby static_ice on Fri May 23, 2008 7:39 pm

There's a car in Crackdown which is shaped like a ramp. You drive fast enough and every thing you hit gets flown above you out of the way...
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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby PLAYER57832 on Fri May 23, 2008 7:49 pm

It should be in your DMV manual.
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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby Neoteny on Fri May 23, 2008 9:09 pm

In the US I believe it's legal up to about a foot long. I'm always getting pulled over by lady-cops who want to measure my spike. They're almost always impressed by its firm construction and smooth finish, even though I'm just under the legal limit.
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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby The Gunslinger on Fri May 23, 2008 9:12 pm

they could probably get you for wreckless driving and all those other really broad driving laws.
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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby Curmudgeonx on Fri May 23, 2008 9:29 pm

In South Africa, this might be legal

otherwise, "operating an unsafe vehicle"
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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby bryguy on Fri May 23, 2008 9:32 pm

just make the front of your car go into a shape like this: >
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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby muy_thaiguy on Fri May 23, 2008 9:40 pm

I don't think it's legal. And screw having one of those on a car. Just give me the Batmobile. 8-) 8-)
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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby The1exile on Sat May 24, 2008 5:50 am

tzor wrote:why? No the why is serious


Zao had one on his green XKR, and I thought "now there is an idea filled with awesomeness".

tzor wrote:first of all you need to have the frame of the car designed to asborb the impact on the spike. Second of all, most hits don't occur dead on to the center of the car. Most people might not be able to avoid a car but they might be able to avoid the spike.

Well, couple of issues - firstly, I would think the impact of the spike would be the same impact (more or less) of ramming the front of your car into anything, but the retractability also comes into play here - you could have it spring loaded. The purposes of the spike would not be to hit people with, necessarily, because I think that would definitely count as assault or intent to cause at the very least, but it's most definitely not to have people then run into said spike.
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Re: Questions (some about legality)

Postby tzor on Sat May 24, 2008 8:52 am

The1exile wrote:
tzor wrote:why? No the why is serious


Zao had one on his green XKR, and I thought "now there is an idea filled with awesomeness".


I would have to search the various law books and I'm not all that great in terms of my google fu but from personal recollection generally speaking the front zone of the car is the responsibility of the driver and barring any questions about imparing the crash worthiness of the vehicle I don't think there really are laws on the books for that sort of thing. Ironically anything which sticks out a certain distance from the rear of a car must be marked with an obvious indicator like a red flag. This is important when you are carring lumber that extends beyond your truck or SUV. The reason is that the person behind you needs to be aware of the potential object that could impale his windshield.
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