put yer name down if you want a free palestine

by **GabonX** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:01 pm

got tonkaed wrote:There has been pressure on the palestinian side to get hamas to step away from those stances, though clearly its not enough as of yet.

I see a lot more movement on the palestinian side than on the israeli side toward peace, which is pretty shocking considering teh methods that are often used on the palestinian side.

What movement is this? Rockets come out of Gaza and into Israel every day and it is accepted as nothing special.

Israel took a huge leap of faith in withdrawling from the Gaza strip and it has only made their situation worse.

If you can provide some evidence that the Palestinians are for peace you have to take into consideration that it is not more than 16% of them.

by **d.gishman** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:25 pm

got tonkaed wrote:There has been pressure on the palestinian side to get hamas to step away from those stances, though clearly its not enough as of yet.

I see a lot more movement on the palestinian side than on the israeli side toward peace, which is pretty shocking considering teh methods that are often used on the palestinian side.

You're still talking about Hamas? Hamas is clearly a terrorist organization (or if you wish, 'involved in terrorist activities'). Do they show ANY signs of negotiating a peaceful solution aside from violence? No.

Why support Hamas? The Fatah are another palestinian political group that is way more concerned with approaching a peaceful solution to the israel - palestine problem.

"more movement on teh palestinian side than on the israeli side toward peace" - how so? please elaborate. I think both sides want peace, but at the expense of different things...

by **InkL0sed** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:36 pm

Well, this is annoying. Stop simplifying what GT is saying guys.

by **GabonX** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:39 pm

InkL0sed wrote:Well, this is annoying. Stop simplifying what GT is saying guys.

Can you provide a specific example of something I have "simplified." I have argued using verifiable facts while he has argued using subjective rhetoric.

As a general rule, if something is to complicated it can and should be simplified. Regardless of this I would like to know just what you are talking about.