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If Hillary wins the Democratic nomination due to the superdelegates will you accept that decision?

 
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Postby Snorri1234 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:01 pm

radiojake wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:What's the difference between bradleybadly and a spineless indipendent?

'A spineless indipendent' is an oxymoron. :wink:


Haha - Gold

I am curious, Bradley, and you have failed to answer this despite a number of people bringing it up already: What exactly makes an independent spineless?

Two party systems are just as much of joke as this whole super delegate crap


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Postby Frigidus on Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:02 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
radiojake wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:What's the difference between bradleybadly and a spineless indipendent?

'A spineless indipendent' is an oxymoron. :wink:


Haha - Gold

I am curious, Bradley, and you have failed to answer this despite a number of people bringing it up already: What exactly makes an independent spineless?

Two party systems are just as much of joke as this whole super delegate crap


RALPH NADER 2008!!


Haha...it would be so freaking funny if after all the Ron Paul crap, the Obama vs. Hilary showdown, the complaints about McCain not being conservative enough, etc., Nader won. Almost makes me want to vote for him.
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Postby bradleybadly on Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:07 pm

radiojake wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:What's the difference between bradleybadly and a spineless indipendent?

'A spineless indipendent' is an oxymoron. :wink:


Haha - Gold

I am curious, Bradley, and you have failed to answer this despite a number of people bringing it up already: What exactly makes an independent spineless?

Two party systems are just as much of joke as this whole super delegate crap


Yeah yeah, yuck it up. He doesn't even know how to spell independent and names himself after Star Wars armor - geek.

Anyway, I do think people who are too scared to take sides on issues are spineless. Of course some people really do sit back and try to see both sides of a debate before they make a decision.
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Postby Snorri1234 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:10 pm

bradleybadly wrote:Anyway, I do think people who are too scared to take sides on issues are spineless.

This hangs on the false assumption that there are only 2 sides on an issue.
Of course some people really do sit back and try to see both sides of a debate before they make a decision.

Only some people? Shit man, that is scary.
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Postby radiojake on Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:23 pm

bradleybadly wrote:Anyway, I do think people who are too scared to take sides on issues are spineless.


Ah yes, taking sides in (two party) politics. Hmmm, do I want Puppet A who has their pockets lined by the multi national oil companies? Or Puppet B who is cahoots with the weapons manufacturers and tobacco industry

I guess its people like you that Bush (and other leaders throughout history) are trying to con with the whole 'You're either with us, or against us'
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Postby SolidLuigi on Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:13 pm

bradleybadly wrote:
radiojake wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:What's the difference between bradleybadly and a spineless indipendent?

'A spineless indipendent' is an oxymoron. :wink:


Haha - Gold

I am curious, Bradley, and you have failed to answer this despite a number of people bringing it up already: What exactly makes an independent spineless?

Two party systems are just as much of joke as this whole super delegate crap


Yeah yeah, yuck it up. He doesn't even know how to spell independent and names himself after Star Wars armor - geek.

Anyway, I do think people who are too scared to take sides on issues are spineless. Of course some people really do sit back and try to see both sides of a debate before they make a decision.


Bradley sounds like he's still in high school. "I'M COOL CAUSE I HANG OUT WITH THE REPUBLICANS AND YOUR NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE WITH THE DEMS!!! HAHAH" *pointing*

If you need to be a member of a party to reassure yourself then go ahead. Being an independent doesn't mean you are scared to take sides, it just means you won't fully commit yourself to a party because you aren't stupid enough to put all your eggs in one basket. As others have said before me, a two party system is ridiculous and plays into the high school "with us or against us" mindset.

Also, take it easy on mandalorian, he's from Croatia so I'm assuming English isn't his first language, so cut him some slack. Also Boba Fett is one of the greatest fictional characters ever created, heh.
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Postby Ray Rider on Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:32 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:It's one of the most undemocratic things in the USA I think.

According to Aristotle in his book, The Politics, a pure democracy is worse than a tyranny. The checks and balances which the US has in place are there for good reason.
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Postby OnlyAmbrose on Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:37 pm

bradleybadly wrote:Anyway, I do think people who are too scared to take sides on issues are spineless. Of course some people really do sit back and try to see both sides of a debate before they make a decision.


You're presuming that there's only two sides. What if you disagree with both Republican and Democrat ideologies?
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Postby Snorri1234 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:43 am

Ray Rider wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:It's one of the most undemocratic things in the USA I think.

According to Aristotle in his book, The Politics, a pure democracy is worse than a tyranny. The checks and balances which the US has in place are there for good reason.


But then again, his teacher said any form of democracy was worse than a tyranny. And actual pure democracy has never existed in large societies. (larger than a village)

Besides, superdelegates are not a good part of checks and balances because they rule out a candidate before he has even a chance to prove himself. Checks and balances are there to insure one power doesn't become too powerfull, not to insure people don't choose the candidate the party doesn't like.
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Postby silvanricky on Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:32 pm

OnlyAmbrose wrote:
bradleybadly wrote:Anyway, I do think people who are too scared to take sides on issues are spineless. Of course some people really do sit back and try to see both sides of a debate before they make a decision.


You're presuming that there's only two sides. What if you disagree with both Republican and Democrat ideologies?


Well then you're spineless obviously!

Seriously I think that both parties have at least part of the solution. But they're just too stubborn to admit it and end up just fighting unnecessarily.
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Postby Snorri1234 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:45 pm

silvanricky wrote:
OnlyAmbrose wrote:
bradleybadly wrote:Anyway, I do think people who are too scared to take sides on issues are spineless. Of course some people really do sit back and try to see both sides of a debate before they make a decision.


You're presuming that there's only two sides. What if you disagree with both Republican and Democrat ideologies?


Well then you're spineless obviously!

Seriously I think that both parties have at least part of the solution. But they're just too stubborn to admit it and end up just fighting unnecessarily.


Word. Which is why I think the election is awesome because all the candidates are at least ready to listen to the other party.
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