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Postby jay_a2j on Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:09 pm

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jay_a2j wrote:Mike Huckabee? Sorry, but I want a secure border, low taxes or none at all, and a government that follows the Constitution instead of spiting on it... and there is only one guy running that will bring these things...I don't even have to say his name. :wink:




Sorry ...but making taxes is part of the Constitution. And no taxes at all would mean no government at all, which would mean no "border security" at all. You're views are contradicting. I mean, if you want complete anarchy, be my guest....



Also, the Federal Income tax didn't exist until 1913. We did just fine without it.
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Postby ritz627 on Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:10 pm

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jay_a2j wrote:Mike Huckabee? Sorry, but I want a secure border, low taxes or none at all, and a government that follows the Constitution instead of spiting on it... and there is only one guy running that will bring these things...I don't even have to say his name. :wink:




Sorry ...but making taxes is part of the Constitution. And no taxes at all would mean no government at all, which would mean no "border security" at all. You're views are contradicting. I mean, if you want complete anarchy, be my guest....


Well, hate to tell you this...but we have been paying in to the illegal IRS for how many years now? And we still don't have border control. So if the medicine don't work...what do you do? Keep taking it?

Ron Paul is the only answer.


So your solution to border security is no government to control the borders...good.

The reason you don't have strong border security is because no past president has really made it a big part of their agenda. It's not because taxes aren't working.
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Postby ritz627 on Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:11 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Mike Huckabee? Sorry, but I want a secure border, low taxes or none at all, and a government that follows the Constitution instead of spiting on it... and there is only one guy running that will bring these things...I don't even have to say his name. :wink:




Sorry ...but making taxes is part of the Constitution. And no taxes at all would mean no government at all, which would mean no "border security" at all. You're views are contradicting. I mean, if you want complete anarchy, be my guest....



Also, the Federal Income tax didn't exist until 1913. We did just fine without it.


Neither did the women's right to vote or civil rights...whats your point? I'm pretty sure there wasn't much border security back then either. Regardless of income taxes or not, taxes still existed.
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Postby Neoteny on Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:19 am

Heimdall wrote:I wouldn't be surprised that Huckabee could win, after all Americans managed to re-elect Bush.


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Postby jay_a2j on Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:12 am

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Heimdall wrote:I wouldn't be surprised that Huckabee could win, after all Americans managed to re-elect Bush.


Shhhh... we try not to think about that...



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Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:16 am

ritz627 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Mike Huckabee? Sorry, but I want a secure border, low taxes or none at all, and a government that follows the Constitution instead of spiting on it... and there is only one guy running that will bring these things...I don't even have to say his name. :wink:




Sorry ...but making taxes is part of the Constitution. And no taxes at all would mean no government at all, which would mean no "border security" at all. You're views are contradicting. I mean, if you want complete anarchy, be my guest....



Also, the Federal Income tax didn't exist until 1913. We did just fine without it.


Neither did the women's right to vote or civil rights...whats your point? I'm pretty sure there wasn't much border security back then either. Regardless of income taxes or not, taxes still existed.
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Postby unriggable on Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:56 am

jay_a2j wrote:Mike Huckabee? Sorry, but I want a secure border, low taxes or none at all, and a government that follows the Constitution instead of spiting on it... and there is only one guy running that will bring these things...I don't even have to say his name. :wink:


Jay, don't even get me to start with why low taxes and a half-trillion dollar a year army don't go together.
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Postby Guiscard on Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:47 am

jay_a2j wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
Heimdall wrote:I wouldn't be surprised that Huckabee could win, after all Americans managed to re-elect Bush.


Shhhh... we try not to think about that...



QFT


Yeh. It IS something you try not to think about, isn't it Jay? Casting that second vote for Bush?

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Postby jay_a2j on Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:26 am

unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Mike Huckabee? Sorry, but I want a secure border, low taxes or none at all, and a government that follows the Constitution instead of spiting on it... and there is only one guy running that will bring these things...I don't even have to say his name. :wink:


Jay, don't even get me to start with why low taxes and a half-trillion dollar a year army don't go together.




Bringing the troops home across the globe and closing our 700+ bases around the world would easily save us the money to pay the troops. :wink:
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:30 am

You need taxes, just not federal income tax, which all the economists will tell you is an idiotic tax which penalizes productivity.
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Postby ritz627 on Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:28 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Mike Huckabee? Sorry, but I want a secure border, low taxes or none at all, and a government that follows the Constitution instead of spiting on it... and there is only one guy running that will bring these things...I don't even have to say his name. :wink:




Sorry ...but making taxes is part of the Constitution. And no taxes at all would mean no government at all, which would mean no "border security" at all. You're views are contradicting. I mean, if you want complete anarchy, be my guest....



Also, the Federal Income tax didn't exist until 1913. We did just fine without it.


Neither did the women's right to vote or civil rights...whats your point? I'm pretty sure there wasn't much border security back then either. Regardless of income taxes or not, taxes still existed.
Women gained the right to vote in Wyoming before 1913. First state and territory to do so. Territory in 1868 and State in 1890.


Eh. Still the point is the same.
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Postby unriggable on Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:31 pm

ritz627 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Mike Huckabee? Sorry, but I want a secure border, low taxes or none at all, and a government that follows the Constitution instead of spiting on it... and there is only one guy running that will bring these things...I don't even have to say his name. :wink:




Sorry ...but making taxes is part of the Constitution. And no taxes at all would mean no government at all, which would mean no "border security" at all. You're views are contradicting. I mean, if you want complete anarchy, be my guest....



Also, the Federal Income tax didn't exist until 1913. We did just fine without it.


Neither did the women's right to vote or civil rights...whats your point? I'm pretty sure there wasn't much border security back then either. Regardless of income taxes or not, taxes still existed.
Women gained the right to vote in Wyoming before 1913. First state and territory to do so. Territory in 1868 and State in 1890.


Eh. Still the point is the same.


Keep in mind the economy was a lot less centralized then as it is now so an income tax would not have made much sense. Now with the internet and the phone, though, it's a god damn great idea to circulate the money so that everybody has a shot at living.
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