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Olympic Cities

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:49 am
by Robinette
Here's an idea for a map...

Olympic Games!


There have been 26 Summer Olympics, held in 22 different cities
And there have been 21 Winter Olympic Games held in 17 separate cities.
I was thinking those cities that have hosted more than once could be multiple territories...

so this provides for a map as small as 22 for summer cities only (23 if you include Rio)
or 28 if you list 1 territory for each of the olympic games.

and 39 to 41 cities for summer & winter combined,
if listing each individual Olympiad as a territory, then there would be 51 seperate territories.
And i suppose one could add territories for events as well ?

Continents or other bonus's could be paid out as Gold, Silver, Bronze medals...
Maybe Extra bonus's for World records?


The graphics could show a sad Chicago, representing the 2nd great disapointment for this city (1904 Olympics were supposed to be in Chicago, but was moved to combine with the St.Louis World's Fair,,,, and just last week, bidding for 2016, Chicago was the 1st city to be voted off the island)... this could even be a territory, maybe it loses one on every turn, lol


Summer Olympic Cities:
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Winter Olympic Cities:

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Re: Olympic Cities

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:11 pm
by ender516
I really like this idea, and we must have similar mindsets, since as soon as I saw the title, before I even read the post, I immediately thought of repeating cities as multiple regions (or territories, as they are sometimes known). My first question is: which olympiades attack which? Perhaps in addition to geographic proximity, consecutive games could attack one another, for example, Montreal can attack both Munich and Moscow (perhaps a fight broke out at the closing ceremonies over the big flag). The interaction between winter and summer games could make things interesting. Maybe the way to cross from winter to summer would be determined solely by geography. I would have suggested limiting attacks within a season just to chronology, but then the map effectively becomes a series of lines, which can get pretty dull. That being said, I think a schematic representation of the attack routes would be very useful during development to aid in seeing strategic features, even though ultimately I believe the map should be pictorial, much as you have it now, or perhaps edited to a group of inset-like maps which focus on the densely occupied areas while omitting the large unused ranges.

Seeing the locations laid out like this does make it obvious how overdue the award to a southern city (outside of Oz) like Rio really was. I suppose it can be chalked up to the sheer cost being more manageable by NATO countries and former superpowers. Aside from Japan, does that description leave anyone out?

The idea of using events as extra regions would likely work best if the winter and summer games were separated entirely into two distinct CC maps. In fact, the events alone might make an interesting map, if you broke it down to the level of each gold medal awarded. Then, for example, each weight class in wrestling would be a region, with all of them together in the wrestling zone, then each distance and style of swimming would be a region, all part of the swimming zone, and so on. Hmm, I wonder how many regions that would work out to? I know that there are something like 26 or 28 sports in the summer games (with the recent announcement of golf and rugby). I may research this idea and develop it in another thread, so I call dibs (for at least a week or two).

A question for you, Robinette: What is the significance of the colours used on the maps?

A question for all the readers: If Olympic Cities is a single CC map covering both summer and winter games, should there be two depictions of the world, one summer, one winter, or should everything be overlaid on one? I guess it would depend on what attacks are permitted and which layout conveys that best, but I think this would be a good discussion point to get things rolling. Of course, a discussion of the attacks should probably come first. Anyway, let's hear some chatter out there!

Re: Olympic Cities

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:58 pm
by cairnswk
Please be aware....
Sydney Metro was started as an Olympic Games Map and back in the days when the foundry was functioning better than it is today. The idea of olympics never took off on that map, you know attacking the olympic appeal etc.
I don't want to be negative just make you aware that something with olympics in it might not be well received.
Good luck though on this if it goes ahead. :)

Re: Olympic Cities

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:05 pm
by sully800
It's an interesting model, since wars were famously postponed during the Greek Olympic games. Does it make sense to theme a war game around such a concept?

I see a lot of spatial issues as well, since most of the world is barren and Europe is extremely crowded. If you could develop the theme to work out spatially on a map then I would be interested, but at the moment I don't see how it would work.

Just the same, I am an enormous fan of the Olympics and therefore the theme does appeal to me :)

Re: Olympic Cities

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:58 pm
by Robinette
ender516 wrote:
A question for you, Robinette: What is the significance of the colours used on the maps?


Countries that have hosted one Olympics are shaded green,
while countries that have hosted two or more are shaded blue.




Another idea is that the map could be the games themselves...
Show a sport, and hold Bronze / Silver / Gold for a particular bonus, or multiple Golds give you a bonus...

There are just soooo many ways this could be laid out, it's hard to imagine what would be best...
especially for me, since i've never played "special feature" maps...

in any case, olympics are very competitive, so i think the idea will work well if it's done right...

Re: Olympic Cities

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:24 am
by ender516
Robinette wrote:
ender516 wrote:
A question for you, Robinette: What is the significance of the colours used on the maps?


Countries that have hosted one Olympics are shaded green,
while countries that have hosted two or more are shaded blue.


Oh, I should have seen that. By the way, if Rio (Summer 2016) is part of this, then Sochi (Winter 2014) should be too.
Robinette wrote:
Another idea is that the map could be the games themselves...
Show a sport, and hold Bronze / Silver / Gold for a particular bonus, or multiple Golds give you a bonus...

Yes, that's one of the approaches I had in mind as well. I really have to find time to get that other thread going, or that dibs I called will expire. Real life can be such a drag sometimes.
Robinette wrote:
There are just soooo many ways this could be laid out, it's hard to imagine what would be best...
especially for me, since i've never played "special feature" maps...

in any case, olympics are very competitive, so i think the idea will work well if it's done right...

There are certainly a lot of ways to go. I wish I had a tool that would do some basic graph theory analysis of the XML version of a map. I think that there may be a lot to be learned from this sort of thing as far as gameplay is concerned, and I know I could whip up a draft of the XML for the Olympic Cities fairly fast based on some of the ideas already discussed here. That could give an early indication of what might be the best attack routes for such a map, even before the graphics got going. Just another thing that real life is keeping me from. Maybe I should buy more lottery tickets, free up my working hours....

Re: Olympic Cities

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:34 am
by Robinette
ender516 wrote:By the way, if Rio (Summer 2016) is part of this, then Sochi (Winter 2014) should be too.


It's there, on the Winter Map... it's just not in italics



ender516 wrote:I really have to find time to get that other thread going, or that dibs I called will expire. Real life can be such a drag sometimes.


I do hereby grant you an extension, and permission to carry on... O:)