LOTR | Lord of the Rings | Middle Earth | Tolkien

by **kusunoki** on Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:01 pm

How about a Lord of the Rings version of the map?

by **rip_tide** on Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:04 pm

that would be pretty tight. The battle for middle Earth. Good idea.

by **Crimson_Knight** on Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:29 pm

As a matter of fact, there already IS a Middle-Earth Risk map. See, they kinda made a bunch of LOTR based games when the movies came out (Monopoly, Chess, Risk, etc.). I actually own it, and it's not bad. Now let me see...

Here's a picture of it (sorry it isn't bigger, the site I'm hosting it from has size limits). It's actually rather interesting to play. There are rivers and mountain ranges that divide the map up, with only a few bridges to cross the rivers (mountains require to go around), and sea invasions functioning a little different as well (sea travel is obviously only on the western coast of Middle-Earth, so sea invasions go from a port territory to the next port territory in line, and vice versa). The biggest change is the introduction of fortresses. At certain locations (Minas Tirith, Rivendell, Minas Morgul, Isengard, etc), these fortresses give an extra point to defense and, during a player's reinforcement phase, produce one extra unit on every fortress you control. To counter this, everyone also has a leader unit which gives an attack bonus.

Now, Lackattack, if you want to make a map out of this, I have a full-sized version as well (which the names are easy to read on). If you want, I can email this to you. Alternatively, if anyone artistically gifted (not me, I can't do crap with anything artistic) wants to take a crack at turning this into a workable map, please by all means just ask and I'll email the full-sized to you as well.

by **weidsun** on Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:42 pm

I was just saying it should be added here, that'd b soo cool
i own the board game already

by **cenamom** on Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:14 pm

I agree. I love the Lord of the rings Map, I also love the addition of mission cards etc. I'm just a risk addict.

by **thegrimsleeper** on Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:24 am

cenamom wrote:I agree. I love the Lord of the rings Map, I also love the addition of mission cards etc. I'm just a risk addict.

Actually, mission cards have been packed with Risk games for as long as I've ever owned a version, which would be at least the last 10 years.

LOTR incorporates Ring cards, which control how long you have to play the game for, and also gives you extra reinforcements and the like. Personally, I think that since Wizards of the Coast got involved in the production of Risk variants, the "expansions" have taken a turn towards the Magic: The Gathering side of gaming, but that's more of a personal gripe than anything else.

Besides, if you don't like it, there's always Classic Risk, not to mention Conquer Club!!

But yeah, the Middle Earth map would be great. For that matter, has anyone seen the Godstorm map? Europe and the Mediterranean area...

Wicked.

by **PacoTheCharm** on Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:50 pm

lol poor lackattack... having to choose were to start banging the programming with all these ideas.... but middle earth owns..

by **thegrimsleeper** on Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:21 pm

hahaha no doubt it's close to a full-time job for lack... A few friends and I played on the Middle Earth board for 8 hours, and there were still a few territories that NEVER saw any action. We finally had to declare the game a draw, the damn felines don't let us continue games past one session.

by **lackattack** on Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:05 am

what can I say? A Middle Earth map would be awesome. This one is too tall (it is nicer when you don't have to scroll, and I want to support 1024x768 resolution). I intend to have a 4th map designed in a month or two (and Asia map is currently being improved) but I should also open up the map specifications to allow for member-designed maps. There could be a forum where map designers can post their work and get feedback from the community.

by **YP_Legend** on Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:00 am

Man, this is right down my alley me thinks as i love doin this kinda stuff. I play AoKII TC & am an avid .rms maker(random map script) & enthusiest. :arrow:

Count me in on this please.....by the way lack, when you said "I should also open up the map specifications to allow for member-designed maps. " what exactly did you mean sir :?:

.....ty & yes im curious to all of this!

What a neat feature this could be..............YP

P.S. Mr. Crimson_Knight, :arrow:

Sir, would you please email this map to me & ill see what i can do with it.....ty kindly. (if its a big file would you plz winzip it 4 me as im on very slow dial-up. ty

by **Crimson_Knight** on Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:49 am

Yeah, the size is a problem... probably have to reorganize the map and merge some of the territories to make it fit. And YP, I sent the email, so good luck making it work!

by **fishfleas** on Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:37 am

that would be REALLY unfortunate..... This Map is an amazing Map.... and it shouldn't be reorganized..... ifyou decide to support the map you should just accept the fact you'll have to scroll on it. There is a reason I like this map much better than the first LOTR Risk Map that came out.... this one is bigger and is better balanced. It also lends itself well to team play as that is how it is setup to be played. If you haven't played LOTR Risk trilogy edition then you really MUST play it before you get into trying to make it available on here. It is one of the best balanced versions I've personally seen.

Props so far on the site. If you are going to support this map though I suggest you support it to it's full extent, complete with it's cards and rules.

by **thegrimsleeper** on Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:17 pm

And hellooooooooo LAWSUIT!

Maybe there's a way to get the map itself up there... But even if lack had the time to program in everything else (and it would take him months to work out all those cards), I'm pretty sure he'd be getting more than a few Cease and Desists.

Not to poop on the party, just trying to think realistically about copyright infringements Now that he's taking money for the site, we've got to be careful about things like this.

by **Stoney229** on Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:41 pm

I definately don't think scrolling down is that big of a deal, and if people don't like doing that for some reason then they can just play a different map.

but if it really was a big deal for some reason that I am currently unaware of, someone that would be willing to take the time could perhaps turn the map sideways and repaint all the words and logos, etc.

Re: copyright infringements, is it still illiega if you redesign the map to look diffent but still function exactly like the original - and then rename everything of course

by **Famous Agent** on Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:47 pm

I could get my hands on a better sized one but it would have to be sized down. Anyone interested?

by **YP_Legend** on Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:06 am

Howdy folks, just thought id chime in & update ya on the LOTR map i have been working on, supplied by crimson_knight. It is looking pretty good, but i am encountering trouble with the size of the countries for the given graphic specs. since there are so many of them. I am going to combine a several of them as i see will fit, & work it out. It will probably be about 2 weeks before i have the time required to get it ready for you here at the foundry, & also write the xml. So until then, best regards & see you at the games!

YP

by **bob the fig** on Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:50 am

should someone do a Middle Earth Map?

by **Haydena** on Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:03 am

Why don't you get off your butt and make one then? Instead of suggesting it...

by **MrConfigT** on Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:49 pm

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 1100#11100

by **thegrimsleeper** on Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:04 pm

So what ever happened to that, T?

by **bob the fig** on Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:06 pm

i am doing a map, but its not near done.

by **MrConfigT** on Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:55 pm

grim, we're still working on it.
I"ve got finals coming up so its hard for me to find time to create the map. Give it af ew more weeks and we should have a near working product

by **freakshow** on Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:40 pm

This might have already been said but there already is a middle earth risk map, and the realm of middle earth is copyright the Tolkin family, this could put you in a sticky legal place unless you have permission, which btw I know you don't since I believe it's EA that has exclusive rights to make video games based on the lord of the rings books. Don't get me wrong I'd like to see it, but I'd also like conquer club to not get taken offline by a bunch of guys in suits.